the new Green Economy is here (Read 336 times)

ren

the new Green Economy is here
« on: May 12, 2021, 08:28:35 AM »
East coast gas supply in crisis. gas nearing $4 a gallon. Don't worry - some new form of transportation is coming...

aletheuo137

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2021, 09:15:56 AM »
Beam me up Scotty, this place starting to suck bad!

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changemyoil66

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2021, 10:03:09 AM »
I don't know any info about this, but doesn't our power grid run mainly on fossil fuels as well?  So even guys with EV's still use fossil fuels.

With the exception of that plant that burns stuff for power, but last I read that it was being shut down or something.  And it only supplied like 20% of our power or something.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2021, 01:40:13 PM »
I don't know any info about this, but doesn't our power grid run mainly on fossil fuels as well?  So even guys with EV's still use fossil fuels.

With the exception of that plant that burns stuff for power, but last I read that it was being shut down or something.  And it only supplied like 20% of our power or something.

Hawaii has the most fossil-fuel dependent electricity production of any US state.  Our oil is imported from other countries, so a US pipeline shutdown won't affect us.

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Last year, fossil fuels accounted for 75% of electric production in the state [Hawaii]
while renewable energy, which includes solar, wind and biomass, only accounted for
about 20%.

Meanwhile, the average electricity prices in Hawaii are more than twice the national
average, and appear to have nearly doubled since 2001.

https://www.civilbeat.org/beat/report-hawaii-is-still-heavily-dependent-on-fossil-fuels/


This site has a series of links that list the various sources of electric power in each state.  Nuclear and natural gas are pretty high in many of the Eastern and Central regions.

https://www.nei.org/resources/map-of-us-nuclear-plants

Alabama, for example, uses 38.7% Natural Gas, 31.4% Nuclear Plants (5 of them), 19.2% Coal, 7.8% Hydro, and 2.8% "Other."

It would be educational for anyone curious about electricity production to go to this site and browse through all of the Eastern states.


Notice, the pipeline hack isn't causing electricity blackouts, only shortages of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/gas-shortage-2021-when-service-will-restart-on-the-hacked-pipeline/ar-BB1gCIcy

https://www.nei.org/resources/map-of-us-nuclear-plants
Surely Not Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting.

changemyoil66

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2021, 01:55:20 PM »
Hawaii has the most fossil-fuel dependent electricity production of any US state.  Our oil is imported from other countries, so a US pipeline shutdown won't affect us.

https://www.civilbeat.org/beat/report-hawaii-is-still-heavily-dependent-on-fossil-fuels/


This site has a series of links that list the various sources of electric power in each state.  Nuclear and natural gas are pretty high in many of the Eastern and Central regions.

https://www.nei.org/resources/map-of-us-nuclear-plants

Alabama, for example, uses 38.7% Natural Gas, 31.4% Nuclear Plants (5 of them), 19.2% Coal, 7.8% Hydro, and 2.8% "Other."

It would be educational for anyone curious about electricity production to go to this site and browse through all of the Eastern states.


Notice, the pipeline hack isn't causing electricity blackouts, only shortages of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/gas-shortage-2021-when-service-will-restart-on-the-hacked-pipeline/ar-BB1gCIcy

https://www.nei.org/resources/map-of-us-nuclear-plants

That info is awesome, thank you.

The idea that got the wheels spinning of EV's still using fossil fuels was cause of the recent pipeline attack.  So if there was a fossil fuel disruption in HI, EV's and gas would be both screwed.  And our power grid would be too.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2021, 02:31:22 PM »
That info is awesome, thank you.

The idea that got the wheels spinning of EV's still using fossil fuels was cause of the recent pipeline attack.  So if there was a fossil fuel disruption in HI, EV's and gas would be both screwed.  And our power grid would be too.

Depends.

Many (not sure how many) EV owners also have solar at home and their businesses.  They can recharge without using expensive HECO electricity.

Doesn't help the ones who require public recharging stations, but I know at least 2 EV owners who have chargers at home.  They normally us the free chargers at work during the week, but then use their solar on the weekends/non-work-days.

My daughter drives a Prius Hybrid.  Recharging is accomplished with kinetic energy from the brakes and from the engine when running on gasoline.  No charging port at all.  In order to run 100% battery, she needs to stay below 25MPH, IIRC.  The newer Prius has a charging port and can operate as a "regular" EV at highway speeds with no gas being burned.

More than one issue, and more than one solution available.
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changemyoil66

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2021, 09:09:13 AM »
Elon annoucned that Telsa will no longer accept BTC to buy a car because even crypto is not green.  He did buy 8% of it in Feb 2021.  There has been a huge dip in the past 2 days. Went from $54K to $48K.

Glasser

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2021, 09:26:01 AM »
Oddly Bill Gates said something similar a couple weeks back about how cryptocurrency were bad for the environment. China is probably burning ass loads of coal to run bit mining operations.

changemyoil66

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2021, 12:02:20 PM »
Oddly Bill Gates said something similar a couple weeks back about how cryptocurrency were bad for the environment. China is probably burning ass loads of coal to run bit mining operations.

Queen of England is single, Gates is single... Just sayin.

ren

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2021, 12:19:28 PM »
Queen of England is single, Gates is single... Just sayin.

so the Queen of England was on Epstein's island?

changemyoil66

Re: the new Green Economy is here
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2021, 01:32:54 PM »
so the Queen of England was on Epstein's island?

Meant they hooking up.  :rofl: