FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24 (Read 10728 times)

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2024, 09:56:20 AM »
Since this only has one committee, is that considered the final committee? If so, does that mean they have until tomorrow to schedule it or else it's dead?

no, it needs to be heard and a report filed by 4/4
that means the announcement has to be made by 4/2

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2024, 09:57:45 AM »
Since this only has one committee, is that considered the final committee? If so, does that mean they have until tomorrow to schedule it or else it's dead?

3/22 is multiple committee referral bills

ICLS1989

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #202 on: March 27, 2024, 09:18:50 AM »
Did this bill get passed or not?

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #203 on: March 27, 2024, 09:24:27 AM »
still has not been scheduled for a hearing
have to wait until tomorrow afternoon to see if it does...

Did this bill get passed or not?

drck1000

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #204 on: March 27, 2024, 09:32:10 AM »
still has not been scheduled for a hearing
have to wait until tomorrow afternoon to see if it does...
better check at 3:59 pm, or close to whatever the deadline is. . .

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #205 on: March 27, 2024, 09:35:30 AM »
i think it has to be scheduled before end of business, but often doesn't get posted until 5-6pm...

better check at 3:59 pm, or close to whatever the deadline is. . .

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #206 on: March 27, 2024, 10:03:37 AM »
Did this bill get passed or not?

The next step for this bill, is for it to get a hearing in the JHA committee.  It has yet to have one scheduled, but the deadline for a hearing isn't over yet.

QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #207 on: March 27, 2024, 10:32:11 AM »
I am 100% confident that our Hawaii government leaders will make sure that everyone will be notified well in advance of SB3196, fully realizing how important it is for those of us who are in support of it or against it.

They believe in equal opportunities for the two sides to air their grievances, as they value the input of hawaii's citizens and their desire to have this issue co-exist safely and for the benefit for all.

Our leaders care and are extremely concerned that the rights of citizens be upheld on both sides of the issue and acknowledge that both sides are equally concerned about safety and rights.


 ;D


WTF am I thinking. :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #208 on: March 27, 2024, 11:02:38 AM »
there is a requirement that it be 48 hours at least...

I am 100% confident that our Hawaii government leaders will make sure that everyone will be notified well in advance of SB3196, fully realizing how important it is for those of us who are in support of it or against it.

They believe in equal opportunities for the two sides to air their grievances, as they value the input of hawaii's citizens and their desire to have this issue co-exist safely and for the benefit for all.

Our leaders care and are extremely concerned that the rights of citizens be upheld on both sides of the issue and acknowledge that both sides are equally concerned about safety and rights.


 ;D


WTF am I thinking. :rofl:

ICLS1989

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #209 on: March 27, 2024, 04:57:32 PM »
Fingers crossed, on the mainland but will prob eventually move back so hoping for the best.

zippz

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #210 on: March 27, 2024, 05:45:42 PM »
What’s the reason why SB1230 went through the JHA and FIN House committees last year versus SB3196 just being referred to only JHA this session?

SB1230 went to finance because money was involved.  The CCW fees.
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ICLS1989

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #211 on: March 31, 2024, 10:28:34 AM »
Is this bill toast yet?  When will we know for sure?

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #212 on: March 31, 2024, 12:14:55 PM »
Is this bill toast yet?  When will we know for sure?
Maybe end of day 4/2

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ren

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #213 on: March 31, 2024, 12:25:44 PM »
Deeds Not Words

ICLS1989

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #214 on: March 31, 2024, 01:05:02 PM »
Thanks for the info guys! 

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #215 on: March 31, 2024, 06:52:06 PM »
This is not a good indicator.The media is playing their part...
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/03/31/petition-calls-more-protections-domestic-violence-victims/
So violating a TRO isnt an automatic arrest?

I was at a bodybuilding comp and a guy and gal were competing. So 12+ weeks of extreme dieting and training. Day of the comp is extreme dehydration.

 The gal had a TRO or like on her ex and neither knew both were competing. He was arrested in his posing trunks. At least HPD let him drink water, wipe the oil off and put clothes on b4 taking him to jail.

If it already is an arrestable offence , then her moms a moron.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #216 on: March 31, 2024, 07:06:25 PM »
So violating a TRO isnt an automatic arrest?

I was at a bodybuilding comp and a guy and gal were competing. So 12+ weeks of extreme dieting and training. Day of the comp is extreme dehydration.

 The gal had a TRO or like on her ex and neither knew both were competing. He was arrested in his posing trunks. At least HPD let him drink water, wipe the oil off and put clothes on b4 taking him to jail.

If it already is an arrestable offence , then her moms a moron.

If you violate a restraining order, you will be arrested if the complainant calls the Cops on you.  The issue is, they will be arraigned on the charge of Criminal Contempt of Court.  Then guess what happens?  They are released on bail or on their own recognizance pending trial.  As the months go by until the trial date, that person has the opportunity to do what Lucita Ani-Nihoa's daughter experienced with no way to stop them.

People seem to believe that getting arrested takes the individual "off the streets."  That's a temporary situation -- sometimes lasting less than 24 hours.

A TRO is not the same as being on parole, as some seem to think -- you violate it, you go straight to jail.  Parole is for someone already sentenced after a finding of guilty.  A TRO simply gives the Cops a legal justification for detaining the person if they break it.  But, there's no "don't break the TRO or you'll server x number of days in jail" standard.  It would be up to the judge to decide that, and only after your trial -- which is after you've been freed following your arraignment.   
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Begle1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #217 on: April 02, 2024, 03:00:24 PM »
So is the wicked bill dead?

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #218 on: April 02, 2024, 04:15:35 PM »
So is the wicked bill dead?

Almost and here's why.

The 48 notice has passed as the last hearings are about 3pm. The news reported that the pakalolo bill is dead for the same reasoning. THe pakalolo bill failed to get a hearing.

But committee's can waive the 48hr notice as well. Very rare to do, but it is allowed.  So by Friday end of day is the for sure dead by date.

My speculation, since this got no backing from the Governor (not in his governors package like how sensitive places was), no companion version, HPD, AG, or any other LEO departments or city departments (excluding maui C&C), I suspect the bill is dead.  I'll post more info on Friday or so.

Begle1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB3196 Senate Floor Vote on 3/5/24
« Reply #219 on: April 02, 2024, 04:20:18 PM »
Fingers crossed.
If it really dies then I'm going to buy a drum mag to celebrate.