Obama's targeting of a US citizen with a drone strike is substantially different as to not be comparable. Yes it does raise some ethical and legal questions but comparing the two is just being obtuse whataboutism.

Sorry but if you may, please explain why obama's order is different than Hegseth's order.  I don't think it is obtuse whataboutism, although I did look it up to try to understand what it means.  I'm not as well read as most of you on this board so would appreciate you helping me out.  I don't see the difference.  And I don't believe anyone made a video back then reminding the military that they can dis-obey illegal orders.

please cite your sources that it was an illegal order...

and do not use WaPo as your source...

Sorry but if you may, please explain why obama's order is different than Hegseth's order.  I don't think it is obtuse whataboutism, although I did look it up to try to understand what it means.  I'm not as well read as most of you on this board so would appreciate you helping me out.  I don't see the difference.  And I don't believe anyone made a video back then reminding the military that they can dis-obey illegal orders.

Don’t be so modest.

You are right on target.

Most Americans can’t figure out what you understand, and if EEF one day decides to get serious about the necessity of truth in the world and in his life, instead of f^*king around, then he’d be asking for guidance from you, brother.

Don’t be so modest.

You are right on target.

Most Americans can’t figure out what you understand, and if EEF one day decides to get serious about the necessity of truth in the world and in his life, instead of f^*king around, then he’d be asking for guidance from you, brother.

It boils down to one thing:  Either you can see the truth based on well-grounded values and principles, or you can't see it and then have to dissect every facet to analyze and agonize over technical and descriptive minutia until the original question itself is no longer clear.

This is why so many people rely on the courts and lawmakers to tell them what they should and should not do.  They don't have the moral clarity to know which is which.

even the NYT is debunking the WaPo article...

please cite your sources that it was an illegal order...

Lul.

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OP doesn't know what an operations order is.
OP doesn't know what effects are.
OP doesn't know what joint pubs are.
OP has no clue what he is talking about.

OP doesn't know what an operations order is.
OP doesn't know what effects are.
OP doesn't know what joint pubs are.
OP has no clue what he is talking about.

OP is an awkward troll working the graveyard shift at the Medical Examiners in Iwilei.

still waiting...

good thing no one here has TDS...

damn
there was a JAG officer in the room giving opinions at the time of the first and second strike
i guess an HPD officer knows more about illegal orders than an actual US Navy lawyer...

damn
there was a JAG officer in the room giving opinions at the time of the first and second strike
i guess an HPD officer knows more about illegal orders than an actual US Navy lawyer...

yes

cop V. SEAL...

cop V. SEAL...

i dunno. I remember one LEO told me academy was like going through SFAS.

There’s speculation that Trump is going after the black budgets which represent one of the last remaining sources of income for the deep state resistance. There’s no way that much product moves across our border without someone at the CIA getting a taste.

5-0 knows more than special forces too...