Without knowing the situation it's hard to say, but weapon retention is and should be a requirement for standing an armed post. it is currently not a training requirement for qualifying to be an armed watch stander. You have guns basically sitting there, in the open, with a person with little to no training on how to keep it out of the hands of other people. Some places have little more than single retention holsters as well. This is the exact reason police departments go with things like triple retention holsters and train for their gun being taken away.
I'd be surprised if that MA2 has gone through too much more than just navy practical hand gun qualification. Shore duty offices don't really do much at all because resources are devoted to training sea-based units. If you are thinking that a rating designation of MA means you know how to use a gun, I would say that you are sorely mistaken. I say this as a trainer and as a former sailor.
Without question, situations can vary and seeing as reports say a female PO was disarmed the point may be moot. But I still believe the deceased MA did have the required training and proficiency for his rating and position as COG.
This belief is not based solely on MA rating. It also takes into account that, about 8 years ago, standards for military police/security forces training across all branches were adjusted to closer match that of their civilian counterparts. And IIRC training for all military LE now requires demonstrated proficiency in pistol, shotgun, and rifle with a score of 80% to pass. Granted, it's a lot to squeeze into 7-8 weeks, but it's no different from any other MOS, specialty, or rating; some amount of hands on/on the job training is the norm. And I say all this as a 13 year LE professional (3 as a instructor) and soon to be retired soldier.
Then again, I'm not a squid but in recent years I've seen more and more boots with Gump level stupidity, so I'm open to any possibility. I'd just prefer not to question the qualifications of a dead service member and would be just fine with the hero story being spun.
There is going to be far more to blame here and problems to scope out, but I've been saying this was a problem for a while in the military. Weapons officers and others just blow it off. Meet the requirement - do nothing more than that.
Don't look too far to exceed civilian LE either -
some MOST only do annual qualifications. I just got back from FLETC. You can't fail their quals... I mean you could, but holy shit you gotta be dumb. People never shooting a gun pass it on the first try with like 95% success rate.
I just want to add the problem gets worse when are letting people wear drop legs and other equipment that they are not really trained in using either.
Clearly the incident in Norfolk is result of multiple failures. I'm sure you'd agree that this is the kind of shit that should not be possible on a ship, that is stateside and docked in their home port.
I don't have a problem with civilian LE standards or their training. We can debate the minimum standards and requirements all day long, it won't change the fact that the job is peace officer, not gunfighter. Statistically, there is a lot of truth to the saying that most LEO's will never discharge their weapon in the line of duty. I'd think most who are entering the profession would love spending an entire career never having to...That is unless they're aspiring to be the next Wunder or McBride.
Not sure what you mean about FLETC...2 failed firearms training while I was in a basic course and neither was dumb. They just physically could not operate their agency's standard issue.
What you have said can be on point. What are our solutions? To me it is mindset, training, and equipment.
My point was off, but thanks. A strong self defense or combat mindset, ANY training, and good/reliable/familiar equipment are all good starts that are better than nothing. But as my former instructor once said: "When in a fight for your life, no amount of training is ever enough. I can train you and give you the tools. You can practice and run the drills. But none of it ever amounts to a guarantee of survival..." The younger me took it in as motivation. Now that I'm much older, I've become pretty jaded. There is no definitive solution that can cover every situation.