Actually for both but more concerned about the hand gun transfer.
Thanks
From my experience, when buying a handgun, HPD will give you a permit having 2 copies if you are buying from a dealer. The dealer will sign the back of both and return their copy to HPD after they process the sale letting the Cops know you picked up the gun/s. You will return the other copy to HPD when you register.
When you buy from a private seller, HPD only gives you the original PTA -- no copies. The seller signs the back of the permit, and the buyer turns it in when they register.
Once the seller signs the permit, the transfer is official. Doesn't require it be done at HPD, and it doesn't happen when you register. Transfer and registration are 2 completely separate processes. The seller can legally give the handgun to the buyer once he signs the permit.
I'd recommend there be a bill of sale to document the details of the sale which both parties get, and a copy of the buyer's & seller's IDs provided to each. As long as the seller is satisfied both parties are Hawaii residents, the buyer is of legal age to own guns and is the person named on the permit to acquire, he's done his due diligence. Some like to argue there's no legal requirement in the statutes to do a bill of sake, ask for ID, etc., but my reply is always, " I'm not going to break the law and then claim ignorance. If someone is getting a firearm from me, it's my responsibility to make sure they meet the bare minimum requirements for a legal transfer."
The only other issue is complying with the "places to keep" section of the law. I've been having buyers meet at my house to avoid meeting in parking lots or having to drive to HPD or the range. Gun stores are not a good option for conducting private sales for a variety of reasons. If you aren't there to transact business with the store, you shouldn't be buying and selling guns on their premises.
[ 134-25] Place to keep pistol or revolver; penalty. (a) Except as provided in sections
134-5 and 134-9, all firearms shall be confined to the possessor’s place of business,
residence, or sojourn; provided that it shall be lawful to carry unloaded firearms in an
enclosed container from the place of purchase to the purchaser’s place of business,
residence, or sojourn, or between these places upon change of place of business,
residence, or sojourn, or between these places and the following:
(1) A place of repair;
(2) A target range;
(3) A licensed dealer’s place of business;
(4) An organized, scheduled firearms show or exhibit;
(5) A place of formal hunter or firearm use training or instruction; or
(6) A police station.
“Enclosed container” means a rigidly constructed receptacle, or a commercially
manufactured gun case, or the equivalent thereof that completely encloses the firearm.
(b) Any person violating this section by carrying or possessing a loaded or unloaded
pistol or revolver shall be guilty of a class B felony.
In the past, meeting at HPD on the date the handgun permit was ready for pickup was the best option for private sales.
The buyer and seller meet at HPD,
buyer picks up the permit,
buyer inspects the gun,
buyer hands payment to the seller,
seller signs the permit and completes the bill of sale,
buyer takes possession of gun,
buyer registers gun.
Once the seller signs the permit and hands over the gun, he can leave.
As you can see, that process was easier if the meeting took place at HPD when the permit is ready. Now with all the appointment BS, it's hit or miss as to when the buyer and seller can meet at HPD without having to leave and go back again.
If buying from a dealer, you'll have to pick up the permit at HPD, go get the firearm from the dealer, then register the gun at HPD. No real way to streamline that process.