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General Topics => Health, Fitness, and First Aid => Topic started by: new guy on August 08, 2013, 01:47:33 PM
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Well, according to the BMI chart at 6' and 215 pds I'm overweight and on the verge of becoming obese! :o
Good thing my CDC measurement is "excellent"....I was gettin worried there for a minute...lol!! :rofl:
New Guy, I'm definitely not doing any 6 week challenges seeing as I'm currently in a "bulking" phase of my training. But if you need any nutritional or training advice, or if you have any questions, let me know.....I'd be glad to help!! :thumbsup:
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I was in the middle of a bulking phase and jacked up my already messed up shoulder. I sucks, I can barely do reps with 185 on the decline bench, without it screaming. I am going to give it a rest and start my cardio focus earlier than planned. Bad knees, so I can run. Leaves biking and really low weights and high reps (as long as my shoulder holds). Good luck brother, wishing you all the best in reaching your fitness goals!
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Here is the newly coined (by me :p ) Tori Nonaka side profile:Glock body ratio
In her case it's 1:1
Pretty ideal but by no means the only answer and YMMV :D
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Numbers coming out goofy. By the formula, I get a BMI of 1930.7746478873239436619718309859
71 in, 195 lb. with 7 0 3. point 0
With 7 0 point 3, I get 193.07746478873239436619718309859
Using the metric system, it comes out to about 345.64166666666666666666666666667
But according to the chart, it should be around 27, no?
Ah, well, what's an order of magnitude or two between friends?
What am I doing wrong?
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Oh, squared! Aha! I didn't se that eensy-bitsy teeny-weeny "2." I've gotta get my superscript glasses on next time!
Let tthat be my worst mistake of the month.
:oops:
Thanks!
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that chart is wack
those of you who have met me know that there's no way that i am at the top limit of healthy and the bottom of overweight
From the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Surgeon General website:
(http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/calls/obesity/images/figure-1f.gif.gif)
BMI of 18.5 - 24.5 = Healthy Weight
BMI of 25.0 - 29.9 = Overweight
BMI of 30.0 - 34.9 = Obese (Class I)
BMI of 35.0 - 39.9 = Obese (Class II)
BMI > 40.0 = Obese (Class III)
From the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC):
Measure the distance around the smallest area of your waist, usually just above the belly button.
Measure the distance around the largest area of od your hips, usually the widest part of your buttocks.
Divide waist meaurement by hip measurement.
As a general guideline for men:
A ratio < 0.85 = Excellent
A ratio of 0.85 - 0.90 = Good
A ratio of 0.90 - 0.95 = Average
A ratio of 0.95 - 1.00 = High
A ratio > 1.00 = Extreme
As a general guideline for women:
A ratio < 0.75 = Excellent
A ratio of 0.75 - 0.80 = Good
A ratio of 0.80 - 0.85 = Average
A ratio of 0.85 - 0.90 = High
A ratio > 0.90 = Extreme
I just got cleared by my neurologist, so finally able to resume running and working out.
Anybody down for a six-week challenge?
I could use the additional incentive/motivation. ;D
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Well, sometimes we have to force ourselves into being average.
Like drones.
The bee kind, not the sky kind.
Terry, 230RN
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Pizzo, hitting you up for info, already!
I know breakfast is the most important meal of the say, but I rarely have the opportunity to eat breakfast.
Does BP Coffee sound okay to drink?
:shaka:
Dang, I've never heard about this "Bullet Proof Coffee".....very interesting!!
"Real" butter has a lot of beneficial qualities for the human body. It contains antioxidants, can help brain and thyroid function and also is believed to fight cancers and tumors...and that's just to mention a few.
I suppose for someone who has a clean bill of health and excercises it could be great, I'm just not sure I would recommend it as a replacement for breakfast.
Sorry, Pizzo.... also interested in hearing your thoughts on a Paleo diet.
Bueno?
No bueno?
Paleo....bueno. It's a great way to get back to the basics of healthy nutrition!!
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New Guy, if you tryna put on weight, coconut and avacado are 2 healthy things to eat that should help put on weight.
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Copy all, Pizzo.
Thanks again, bruddah Pizzo!
Ya, no worries! :shaka:
If you don't mind me asking what's your height/weight and how much you trying to gain?
Do you have any particular reasonl for wanting to gain weight??
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I just got cleared by my neurologist, so finally able to resume running and working out.
Anybody down for a six-week challenge?
I could use the additional incentive/motivation. ;D
If you are needing some incentive, you can join my wifes workout group on facebook. She posts some workout ideas and nutrition stuff. Let me know if you are interested.
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Sure!
Height: 5' 7" - 5' 8"
Weight: 135 (pre-crap); 133 (post-crap)
Just to add a bit more lean muscle, while also increasing strength and cardio.
Years and years ago, I wrestled in the 119, 125, and 130 lb weight divisions in high school.
Went away to college and got up to 175 in my second year.
Of course, this was due to cafeteria food, 40s every night, and working out twice a day...
I realize that 175 is not my true body weight, nor am I expecting to get up to 175.
Any thoughts on what kind of realistic goals I should be setting for a six-week challenge, with regard to increased body weight?
2-4% increase sound manageable?
I am taking into consideration that I will be doing cardio, as well.
i'm about the same height as you.
i weigh about 175-180 depending on the day of the week.
I also used to wrestle in high school. I was much lighter then.
if your main goal is to gain weight, you might want to limit your cardio.
how much calories do you eat a day and stay the same weight?
at that calorie count, you add 500 per day, or 3500 per week, and that will be approximately 1 lb per week gain. if everything else is constant.
when i want to gain a few pounds, i add a couple protein/moderately high calorie shake 2 times per day, one of which is right before bed.
as well as eating 4- 5 meals a day. but with my job its hard to do every day.
i am a hard gainer, as I suspect you are as well. i eat anything and stay the same.
but dont eat junk food. eat quality calories.
dont over work in the gym. stimulate growth, dont just go nuts for 2 + hours in there, you'll just burn too many calories.
have a plan. keep documentation of what you do, what you eat, and what the results are.
when you track progress, you can make educated changes as needed.
I think a good realistic progression in gaining quality weight is 1 lb per week
if you go from 133 or 135 to 140 in 6 weeks, thats pretty darn good.
good luck to you, NewGuy. :shaka:
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new guy said,
"Weight: 135 (pre-crap); 133 (post-crap)"
Heh. Hadda laugh. I'm trying to stay down in weight and I even shave, pick my nose, and brush my teeth before weighing.
Every micro-ounce counts. :'( :grrr:
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Anyone go to Waipahu YMCA? I usually go there after work about 5pm.....
To work on my small man syndrome ;)
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deadlifts for someone starting out on a fitness program = bad idea
work on your core first
Wrecked by yesterday afternoon's deadlifts.
Wrecked by last night's Knob Creek.
Not liking life, right now...
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yeah, sorry
i thought you were a newbie to weight training
go light, have good form, and work your way back up to strength
Copy all, Q.
Mahalo, will take your suggestions under advisement!!
Mahalo for the concern, macsak.
I'm not so much "starting out on a fitness program" but perhaps moreso, "resuming workouts, with renewed interest and focus, following surgery."
Definitely easing my way back into the swing of things.
I want to avoid injury at all costs.
As an aside, I thought deadlifts, along with squats, crunches, military presses, bench presses, and rows, represented the most basic and fundamental workout exercises? ???
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Pizzo!
Help a brutha out!
I'm... Heavy, and too short... Lol
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Dang....I've been so busy I only just now got to read everyone's commnets and replies. I'm happy to say it looks like we have some pretty good advice being given from our members...good stuff guys!! :thumbsup:
Here's a lil input.....
Training - 45min per body part/muscle is usually good and the workout should consist of at least 3, maybe 4 different exercises per muscle group. Power lifting is good. however, as we get older some of the basic power/compound movements can be challenging to say the least. If you've just got cleared to train again I would suggest sticking to machines & cables in the begining just to ease into it. This way you can get your joints, ligaments, tendons and muscles a chance to warm up to the idea of moving weight around. Once you've gotten the body used to resistance training and you're feeeling stronger then add more advanced lifting techniques to the routines. Of course you know your body better than anyone else and if you feel you're good to go then rock on and kick some ass!!
Diet - Stick to lean meats such as chicken breast, fish, turkey and lean cuts of steak. For carbs use sweet potatoes, yams, oatmeal and lastly brown rice. Eat plenty of salad/greens but not that iceberg crap! The darker the green, the better it is for you. Nalo greens, spinach and kale are all great! Calories between 3-4,000/day should keep you growing and as long as you follow the foods mentioned above you should put on healthy weight and not fat! Try to eat a meal or protein shake/bar every 2-3 hours if possible and make sure each meal conatins all 3 food groups....protein/carb/greens. Also, aim to keep protein at your desired weight. Example: I want to weigh 250 pds so I consume between 250-300 grams per day, if you want to weigh 160...try to get between 160-200 grams/day.
I hope this helps. Of course there's already been a ton of great info shared so far so this is just a couple things I wanted to add.
Let me know if you have any questions!! :shaka:
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I dont think this chart works well for hawaii people. I think its the same chart as when i joined the air force in 2008. I was 6'2 and weighed 251 so they told me i had to lose a lot of weight. I had no belly at all but there were guys with beer bellies who made weight. Some guys just have heavier frames & some are heavy due to more muscle mass. I ended doing the tape method and was cleared good to go.
Dont worry about charts that list "ideal" bmi. They are just an average so many people will not be ideal on paper but have excellent body mass with definition. Just build your body to what you like.
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I'm good :geekdanc:
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for the shoulder:
do some rotator cuff exercises, concentrate on external rotation mostly
as this is much weaker than the internal rotators, generally speaking.
but i cant really give specific suggestions without knowing specifics about your shoulder.
you may also be over working the shoulder, bc it gets worked in back, chest, shoulder workouts, as well as bicep tendon may also play a part in the shoulder.
I am not a firm believer in doing abs every day.
I dont really have a six pack either. LOL.
but I would say, nothing is written in stone.
if your abs are still sore or aching from the previous session, its ok to skip a day or 2 on abs.
I personally only do abs once a week, like any other body part.
but again, my abs are nothing to write home about.
isometrics, waste of time.
if you can do isotonic exersice, do it that way.
there are certain techniques of using isometrics, like on the power rack, and isometric contraction is stronger than isotonic,
eccentric, or negative training may be beneficial, but use sparingly.
but as a whole, training is very individual.
what works for me, may not work for you.
a lot is trial and error, particular to the individual.
but sounds like your training is coming along great.
you have goals and measurements to track progress.
you'll make your goals, I'm sure! :shaka:
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Want to gain weight eat spam and rice
Want to lose weight just gongho
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damn......i'm obese class 1. :(
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since seeing this post i dropped 15 lbs. thanks for the incentive to get off my ass which i'd been doing for the past year. too busy, then too lazy, then too fat. ;) was at 192 @5'7". damn scale. dropped to 177 currently and looking to get down to about 165. can't do what i used to do in my younger days(i'm 53) although i still hike, run, walk and workout. currently @ about 12% body fat looking to drop a couple % points at least. my enemy is my spoon and fork. damn, i'm so hungry now! hopefully, when i get down to the 160's i'll be running up kokohead again and not just watching people go up from the range. :)
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You seriously lost 7.8% of your body weight in about 7 weeks?!?
You are the mf'ing MAN!! :thumbsup:
I'm sure you notice a difference; feels awesome, yeah?
Keep it up, bruddah MMM, and thank you... your results inspired me to do work harder! :shaka:
thanks, i guess it was 7.8%. goal was 2-3 lbs a week while trying to keep as much mass on as possible. hehehe! yup, now the belt notch feels better. in my youth, i was @ about 200-210 @ sub 10% BF but that's too much weight to carry around. i'll feel much better below 170 especially with the holidays coming around and temptation everywhere.
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Surprised no one mentioned the ideal for female.
1.0 : 0.7 is universally sexy
there's an ideal for men, but blah
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