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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ichibandj on September 09, 2013, 05:36:06 AM
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I found this article pretty interesting, what do you all think?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/)
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I am going out on a limb and say the state is scared of some sort of "discrimination to {insert problem} challenged" citizens law suit. Simply because like most states, getting a gun permit does not require a vision test.
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This happened in North Dakota in the 1990's.
A blind person could still defend themselves at close range; however, I think that if a state prohibited carrying of firearms by blind people that it very well could withstand strict scrutiny.
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It's so blatantly obvious how today this issue is about equal rights for all, including the physically impaired.
Six months ago, a blind man receiving a gun permit was used as bait to bash the NRA and gun laws. The argument was how "common sense" gun laws need to be passed, and the permitting of the blind to own guns went against common sense.
This is what happens when lawyers run the country: mountains out of mole hills.
Don't blame the gun lobbyists or the gun owning public. Blame the idiot politicians who are more concerned about banning guns than making sure the right people (mentally and legally qualified) can own guns.
If law makers spent more time solving ACTUAL PROBLEMS using ACTUAL SOLUTIONS, instead of PUSHING AN ANTI-GUN AGENDA, maybe there would be more common sense in the law!!?? :crazy:
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Blind people have the same rights any of us have, even thought it may not make sense to us. If you deny them rights, then you start chipping away at rights for the rest of us.
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Blind people have the same rights any of us have, even thought it may not make sense to us. If you deny them rights, then you start chipping away at rights for the rest of us.
The laws already exclude felons, underage minors, and mentally ill from owning firearms. If there is data to support the argument either for or against the blind owning and using guns, I've yet to come across any. Until then, making a broad statement about chipping away rights for the rest of us doesn't sway me.
Common sense says we should require proficiency testing of ALL carry permit applicants, which many states do. I don't believe many, if any, blind applicants will be able to pass.
As for simple firearm ownership, I say ALL people have a right to own anything that is legal. Who says it's for the owner to shoot? It could be for collecting or other legitimate purposes.
I'm pretty sure a blind man will be allowed to own and register a car, even though he also needs a driver to operate one.
Just as there is no absolute on what is "common sense" when deciding how to restrict legal rights, neither is it an absolute when it comes to deciding that something being labeled a "right" trumps all other arguments.
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The laws already exclude felons, underage minors, and mentally ill from owning firearms. If there is data to support the argument either for or against the blind owning and using guns, I've yet to come across any. Until then, making a broad statement about chipping away rights for the rest of us doesn't sway me.
Common sense says we should require proficiency testing of ALL carry permit applicants, which many states do. I don't believe many, if any, blind applicants will be able to pass.
As for simple firearm ownership, I say ALL people have a right to own anything that is legal. Who says it's for the owner to shoot? It could be for collecting or other legitimate purposes.
I'm pretty sure a blind man will be allowed to own and register a car, even though he also needs a driver to operate one.
Just as there is no absolute on what is "common sense" when deciding how to restrict legal rights, neither is it an absolute when it comes to deciding that something being labeled a "right" trumps all other arguments.
^Basically sums up my point of view on it. Sure purchase legally no problem, allowed to carry when as the article states some couldn't read the application = problem! Your rights don't & shouldn't trump mines or anyone eles's safety. You can't yell fire in a movie theather unless it actually is one without some reprecussions. Unfortuantely "common sense" isn't so common these days. Just my .02
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Reminds me of the scene from the movie Hear no evil see no evil. The ending part of the movie where the two blind guys have guns.