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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Q on September 19, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
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Depending on other gear worn, I use a modified Safariland platform when wearing a plate carrier while playing airsoft. The cummerbund system on the plate carrier makes wearing belt mounted holsters a little uncomfortable and both get in the way of each other. I'm using a Down Range Gear drop leg belt hanger and a Safariland single strap leg shroud. This combo puts the pistol grip right at the belt line and out of the way of the plate carrier.
When no plate carrier or chest rig is worn, I prefer a holster mounted on the belt as I find it more comfortable when running around.
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I would think that max arms length is max distance setup for da holster, in order to facilitate quick draw?
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The drop leg should snug your balls with the strap basically. You drop it just enough to get the gun out of the way. I like it when going into a vehicle, as it puts the gun on your side and not stabbing in the gut.
Check out G-Codes MULE system and their other drop leg setups.
On a side note: drop leg mag carriers, like the Costa rig (and now G-Code has Travis Haley's) are freaking awesome.
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Waiting for kk to make a drop leg joke.......
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Waiting for kk to make a drop leg joke.......
I was totally going to do it but decided against it. :rofl:
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I had to wear a drop leg in the navy. I find them uncomfortable. It pulls down on your belt and cause your pants/underpants to ride up your leg. Maybe if. Your. Wearing one for a short peoriod it's cool but you spend half a day wearing one and it gets really uncomfortable especially weighed down with a loaded M9.
Shoulder holster is tops.
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I had to wear a drop leg in the navy. I find them uncomfortable. It pulls down on your belt and cause your pants/underpants to ride up your leg. Maybe if. Your. Wearing one for a short peoriod it's cool but you spend half a day wearing one and it gets really uncomfortable especially weighed down with a loaded M9.
Shoulder holster is tops.
Shoulder holster screams "I would never use this"
It's high up; hard to retain; hard to draw from; it's not where you practice or shoot from at the range. The only time a shoulder holster was good, was for below decks watches on the submarine. This was simply because during the watch I am crawling over pipes and all kinds of other shit to take log readings and the gun would catch on all types of pipe hangars and other objects.
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The drop leg holster is great when decked out in full gear - IOTV with plates, full compliment of mags/grenades, first aid kits, camelbak, assault bag, and everything else. Stays out of the way of everything. If I wasn't wearing all that stuff, I'd go with a hip holster.
As said before, should wear it as high and as tight as possible. easier to reach, and feels more secure when your running around.
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Shoulder holster screams "I would never use this"
It's high up; hard to retain; hard to draw from; it's not where you practice or shoot from at the range. The only time a shoulder holster was good, was for below decks watches on the submarine. This was simply because during the watch I am crawling over pipes and all kinds of other shit to take log readings and the gun would catch on all types of pipe hangars and other objects.
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Only time we ever used shoulder holsters was during down time on the FOB.
Shoulder holsters scream "I got my ass kicked a lot in high school"
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Shoulder holster screams "I would never use this"
It's high up; hard to retain; hard to draw from; it's not where you practice or shoot from at the range. The only time a shoulder holster was good, was for below decks watches on the submarine. This was simply because during the watch I am crawling over pipes and all kinds of other shit to take log readings and the gun would catch on all types of pipe hangars and other objects.
Being that I wore a shoulder holster whilst standing below deck watch on a submarine... Yeah it was good for that.
I don't know if there is some method of wearing a drop leg that's comfortable. I tried every way I can think of. It sucks as far as comfort goes. Judging by what I see, this is my conclusion:
Regular cops wear belt holsters all day. Swat wears drop legs for thier short mission.
It goes along nicely with my preconceptions.
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Shoulder holsters scream "I got my ass kicked a lot in high school"
WTF does that mean?
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WTF does that mean?
If the shoe fits...
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I ran one for several years. We had been doing the top strap delete and modifying the leg shroud by trimming it as far back as around 10 years ago. If you are running two straps, your rig is probably too low. No matter what, I don't like them, nor do I like running subloads if I can avoid them. They put undue pressure on the belt and back and over time can create issues.
With the vast choices in modern gear selection and set ups, you can do just about any set up despite the armor loadout without having to resort to drop legs or leg strap type sub-loads.
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I can't remember the name of the drop holster I used but I love them, very comfortable. The regular holster on my gun belt was annoying when sitting and riding around. The only time a drop holster sucked is when I wore my Law Enforcement Cheetah Shorts, the bottom leg strap would ride up the right side of my shorts, if I was climbing ladders.
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Can't argue with what has already been posted, drop legs suck.
I did go ahead and try the G Code Mule and like it alot. It puts the weapon at a comfortable drop, not too low that you have to stretch.
http://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/Accessories/GCA77.html (http://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/Accessories/GCA77.html)
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Pretty much the mule was created to mimic exactly what many were doing with the old Safariland leg shrouds. We removed the top strap, cinched the pistol as high as we could and then we trimmed the shroud taking off the top leg loop and the excess bulk of the shroud streamlining it down like the mule. We accomplish a similar goal nowadays by running an offset drop from a belt. This also helps reduce nerve issues in the leg and back and chronic back pain over prolonged usage. Most people don't wear them long enough to incur extreme issues, but for those who do wear a pistol and armor for years on end and extended time periods, getting rid of subloads is a game changer for health. Also IMO higher up is much more efficient in a pistol presentation. Not too mention running around with a drop leg is not nearly as efficient either.
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Surf,
I have one of the slight extended belt drops from G-code, but I find that it wiggles too much? Part of me thinks that wearing an appropriately sized belt (i.e. 2" vice 1.75) or even a thicker belt (ares etc.) would fix that.
Are these the types of mounts that you are seeing them switch to?
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Surf,
I have one of the slight extended belt drops from G-code, but I find that it wiggles too much? Part of me thinks that wearing an appropriately sized belt (i.e. 2" vice 1.75) or even a thicker belt (ares etc.) would fix that.
Are these the types of mounts that you are seeing them switch to?
Interested in the reply, I was looking at maybe getting this as well.
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Me personally don't like them because they end being around my knee so I have to take off the plastic buckles to run the drop higher directly off my belt, then it's at a reachable height. Only one leg strap needed, high and tight LOL! Still sucks to run with. The only good thing is the generic type open holster lets me carry different pistols with light attached vs. having to buy separate custom ones.
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Pretty much the mule was created to mimic exactly what many were doing with the old Safariland leg shrouds. We removed the top strap, cinched the pistol as high as we could and then we trimmed the shroud taking off the top leg loop and the excess bulk of the shroud streamlining it down like the mule. We accomplish a similar goal nowadays by running an offset drop from a belt. This also helps reduce nerve issues in the leg and back and chronic back pain over prolonged usage. Most people don't wear them long enough to incur extreme issues, but for those who do wear a pistol and armor for years on end and extended time periods, getting rid of subloads is a game changer for health. Also IMO higher up is much more efficient in a pistol presentation. Not too mention running around with a drop leg is not nearly as efficient either.
Surf is on point! After sometime in the middle east, it was great having to relinquish sub-loads! Drop leg holsters have their uses, but I have to agree with keeping everything as high as possible as well.
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Here's a Hunter 33 32 P7 drop-swing holster which was given to me by a Highway Patrol Trooper many years ago. (Shown unsnapped and partially rotated.)
Was sorta-OK, especially when driving, since you could unsnap it and allow it to "bend" with your leg while sitting down and driving, but it was still difficult to draw while seated --if needed.
If you watch old re-runs of the "Highway Patrol" series starring Broderick Crawford, you can still see this (or an equivalent) holster on his uniformed Officers. Kind of interesting to watch the holstered gun swing back and forth if they're unsnapped and the Officer is running. (There is no leg tie.)
I used it for a while in the fields and forests with a Smith 19, but discovered that I really, really preferred crossdraw, especially after the advent of seat belts.
In 16 years of working in downtown Denver, I've only seen one uniformed Denver PD Officer carrying crossdraw.
I have a clamshell shoulder rig for my 1911, but I hate it.
Terry, 230RN