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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: BLKDRGN on October 23, 2013, 10:19:29 PM

Title: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 23, 2013, 10:19:29 PM
I'm looking for a cheap red dot sight for my Remington 1100 shotgun. Nothing fancy and this would be mainly for home defense. Also once in a great while I wouldn't mind doing traps with it so will a red dot work for that too? What would you recommend? Do they make a special mount that mounts directly to the receiver instead of mounting a picatinny rail first?

I like the style of the first pic but what's really the difference between the two styles?

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/blkdrgnphotos/Firearms/reflex_sight_amrtas_c_zps4bcb4824.jpg)

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/blkdrgnphotos/Firearms/138179_ts_zps06a6be5f.jpg)

This is what my Remington 1100 looks like
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/blkdrgnphotos/Firearms/0F787810-0C4E-4086-A0A1-F164B075B449-565-000000705E5A05A5_zps50e7232f.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: new guy on October 24, 2013, 12:30:17 AM
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Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: Jl808 on October 24, 2013, 12:32:37 AM
How about attaching a flashlight on the barrel instead?

Turn on the light and where the light shines = where you are gonna hit. Point shooting.
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Post by: Q on October 24, 2013, 04:02:58 AM
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Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: Kingkeoni on October 24, 2013, 04:14:46 AM
I'm a huge fan or RMR's on a shotgun.

I bought a Burris "speed bead" mount and swapped the optic to a RMR.

Here's a pic.

The 11-87 with the Burris fastfire has been switched to a RMR as well.

I currently run RMR's on both the Benelli and 11-87.

I sight them in at 15 yards to hit point of aim and with buck shot they're spot on accurate from 3 yards to about 40 yards.

The RMR is always on so there's no fumbling with switches and with it sandwiched between the butt stock and the receiver, it sits close enough to the eye to give you a huge field of view.
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: robtmc on October 24, 2013, 08:16:49 AM
What sort of mount is that?  Sandwich between receiver and stock?
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2013, 08:23:59 AM
yup
burris speedbead
look it up on amazon or google

What sort of mount is that?  Sandwich between receiver and stock?
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 24, 2013, 08:42:42 AM
The burris aint cheap.  :'( Oh and mines comes with a pistol grip so will it still fit? I also kinda don't like the ghost sights. Takes too long to line up the front and rear but at the same time it's a shotgun so you don't have to have the best aim. I will have to think about it. I didn't really want to pimp out this one too much. I'd rather do it to the Mossberg 590.
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2013, 10:13:23 AM
the pistol grip on most shotguns fit on just like a regular stock, they are matched in size and use the same attachment hardware
the speedbead goes in between the receiver and stock just like a sling mount would

The burris aint cheap.  :'( Oh and mines comes with a pistol grip so will it still fit? I also kinda don't like the ghost sights. Takes too long to line up the front and rear but at the same time it's a shotgun so you don't have to have the best aim. I will have to think about it. I didn't really want to pimp out this one too much. I'd rather do it to the Mossberg 590.
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: aieahound on October 24, 2013, 01:10:12 PM
Damn KK !

You got all the coolest toys.  :(
Too bad about that boating accident.  :D

How about attaching a flashlight on the barrel instead?

Turn on the light and where the light shines = where you are gonna hit. Point shooting.

+1 as something to consider.
Won't help in clays much but for HD it's badass.
 I had one flashlight I found mounted under barrel on Mossy 500 and beam throw approximated shot spread at various distances.
Basically hit with a flashlight and the shotgun would hit it. ( Distances to about 35 feet )

I bought the cheap Barska ACOG look-alike and it handles 12 gauge recoil.
Had a friend who bought an expensive light integrated into the forearm and it blew up in like 2 shots.

Speedbead is badass though as no rail required and mounts low.

PS
BLK did you get help with your Cock ?  :rofl:
( That's gotta be the best name for a thread ever.....maybe after Orange Kitten )
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2013, 01:24:40 PM
this is what i was taught also
you need to look for a light that has a bright central beam spot (yeah, i know that's not the physics term)
and have it approximate the spread of the pellets
and it acts like a "laser", but also tells you the spread of the shot

+1 as something to consider.
Won't help in clays much but for HD it's badass.
I had one flashlight I found mounted under barrel on Mossy 500 and beam throw approximated shot spread at various distances.
Basically hit with a flashlight and the shotgun would hit it. ( Distances to about 35 feet )
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: rswarrior1700 on October 24, 2013, 10:47:51 PM
Vortex Razor RDS used by Jerry Miculek on his Mossberg 930

http://www.vortexoptics.com/category/razor_red_dot (http://www.vortexoptics.com/category/razor_red_dot)

review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqy_FuJAWAE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqy_FuJAWAE)
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 24, 2013, 10:53:14 PM
How about attaching a flashlight on the barrel instead?

Turn on the light and where the light shines = where you are gonna hit. Point shooting.

What about during the day time?
Title: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: Jl808 on October 24, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
What about during the day time?

I was thinking of just shooting with the bead sight for the daytime. Kinda like clay shooting -- With a proper eye alignment on the barrel, just put the bead on target and shoot.

But you're right... For HD, one might not always have time or space for a proper cheek weld. Maybe learn to point shoot with the stock on the hip?  A laser or a spread laser like this might also work. Expensive though!

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/cm-15

For HD, use a mounted flashlight at night for target illumination/ID and use a laserlyte for daytime scenarios?

For traps, the white bead and a good cheek weld is plenty fun!
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: SpeedTek on October 25, 2013, 12:27:08 AM
awww forgot to show you what we have
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 25, 2013, 09:38:00 AM
awww forgot to show you what we have

It's OK, I was pretty distracted for other reasons.
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: macsak on October 25, 2013, 09:53:43 AM
ah
someone else was showing you what they have

It's OK, I was pretty distracted for other reasons.
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: Kingkeoni on October 26, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
What about during the day time?

This is why I love the RMR.

Brightest day or darkest night, she go.

Flashlights are cool too
Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: jonjon on November 02, 2013, 10:17:37 AM
not a red dot but saw this on the internet the other day.

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/cm-15 (http://www.laserlyte.com/products/cm-15)

Title: Re: Recommend Shotgun Red Dot Sight
Post by: Kingkeoni on November 05, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
Not a big fan of the laser cluster.

Just doesn't seem right to me.