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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: FrogLubeHawaii on November 18, 2013, 05:30:21 PM

Title: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: FrogLubeHawaii on November 18, 2013, 05:30:21 PM
Got a question about CMP. How can they ship ammo via FedEx air straight to your home, without going through an FFL?
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: gotblika on November 18, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
Since when does ammo have to go thru an FFL?
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: OldFaithful on November 18, 2013, 06:19:03 PM
I think he means how can the cmp ship ammo to you in Hawaii straight to your door since other companies wont ship here?  Or how can they ship to private people and not specific gun shops?
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on November 18, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
From what I have read and understand they have a exemption under the law.  But they do verify all your info in order to purchase
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: Tom_G on November 18, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
There's a difference between "can't" and "won't."  There are companies besides CMP that are willing to ship to Hawaii.  I've bought from them on rare occasion.  What gets me is that CMP can do it affordably, while with others, the shipping cost is often greater than the ammo cost.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: FrogLubeHawaii on November 19, 2013, 04:36:50 PM
Thank for the info. I think I might just order through them once to see how things go.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: OldFaithful on November 19, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
Thank for the info. I think I might just order through them once to see how things go.

They're awesome.  Just realize they take a really long time to do orders for ammo and guns.  Still waiting on an order from September
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: BLKDRGN on November 19, 2013, 06:16:42 PM
This is what it says when I try to check out. How does one show proof to them citizen or club membership? What kind and how do we get membership?

The following items cannot be processed at this time. You may be ordering an item that requires proof of citizenship or membership in an affiliated club, and your file is lacking that information. If proof of citizenship or club membership is required, please fax to 256-835-3527 or mail to CMP, Attn: Customer service, 1401 Commerce Blvd., Anniston, AL 36207. You may be ordering an item that is restricted for club purchase only at this time. Please see the block below for exact reason.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: OldFaithful on November 19, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
This is what it says when I try to check out. How does one show proof to them citizen or club membership? What kind and how do we get membership?

The following items cannot be processed at this time. You may be ordering an item that requires proof of citizenship or membership in an affiliated club, and your file is lacking that information. If proof of citizenship or club membership is required, please fax to 256-835-3527 or mail to CMP, Attn: Customer service, 1401 Commerce Blvd., Anniston, AL 36207. You may be ordering an item that is restricted for club purchase only at this time. Please see the block below for exact reason.

When you intially buy something from them you have to prove citizenship and be in a cmp affiliated club.  There's a list on their site.  They keep that info on file there for future orders as well. 
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: ImKu on November 19, 2013, 06:23:13 PM
Thank for the info. I think I might just order through them once to see how things go.

FYI, once the funds are taken out of your account it usually takes 2 weeks+ from that time for it to get delivered.  Not sure what others experience is, but I usually get the shipment prior to the CMP site updating the shipping status.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: ImKu on November 19, 2013, 06:25:36 PM
This is what it says when I try to check out. How does one show proof to them citizen or club membership? What kind and how do we get membership?

The following items cannot be processed at this time. You may be ordering an item that requires proof of citizenship or membership in an affiliated club, and your file is lacking that information. If proof of citizenship or club membership is required, please fax to 256-835-3527 or mail to CMP, Attn: Customer service, 1401 Commerce Blvd., Anniston, AL 36207. You may be ordering an item that is restricted for club purchase only at this time. Please see the block below for exact reason.


http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/eligibility.htm (http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/eligibility.htm)

Follow the instructions  :thumbsup:

*I ended up faxing my credentials and had access the same day
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: BLKDRGN on November 19, 2013, 06:27:00 PM
When you intially buy something from them you have to prove citizenship and be in a cmp affiliated club.  There's a list on their site.  They keep that info on file there for future orders as well.

Thanks I found the list of clubs for Hawaii. Damn! 40 clubs. Had no idea how many high schools are involved.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: Growler67 on November 19, 2013, 06:37:15 PM
Just keep in mind that their ammo is NOT always the same spec you can get off the shelves and it is usually packaged loose in bags.  For example, their 30-06 is is spec'd for the M1 Garand in 30-06 Springfield....lower pressures than current manufacture off the shelf.  Keep this in mind for the firearm you wish to run CMP ammo through as it may not function like you think it will.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: zippz on November 19, 2013, 06:38:51 PM
Thanks I found the list of clubs for Hawaii. Damn! 40 clubs. Had no idea how many high schools are involved.

Those are probably the ROTC/Air rifle teams.

For Hawaii, the largest ones are HRA, Puuloa Club, Chinese Gun Club.  You also have to show proof of a shooting activity such as competition, course, etc.  There is a form on the website the range officer or instructor can fill out for you.  For military, just send them a copy of your LES or enlistment documents or something and you are good to go.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: OldFaithful on November 19, 2013, 08:13:27 PM
Those are probably the ROTC/Air rifle teams.

For Hawaii, the largest ones are HRA, Puuloa Club, Chinese Gun Club.  You also have to show proof of a shooting activity such as competition, course, etc.  There is a form on the website the range officer or instructor can fill out for you.  For military, just send them a copy of your LES or enlistment documents or something and you are good to go.

You can also just copy your handgun training course paper
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: wobbles on November 20, 2013, 06:03:09 AM
If you do decide to buy ammo esp 22lr the wait is 6-12 months. I have been waiting since march for a case of 22.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: BLKDRGN on November 20, 2013, 08:22:59 AM
I don't mind waiting if it's cheap. Federal Gold .308 168gr is 50% off compared to one of the cheapest stores here. Since I was applying I also applied for Pu'uloa, HRA, and HDA membership.
Title: Re: Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Post by: Funtimes on November 20, 2013, 03:08:44 PM
There's a difference between "can't" and "won't."  There are companies besides CMP that are willing to ship to Hawaii.  I've bought from them on rare occasion.  What gets me is that CMP can do it affordably, while with others, the shipping cost is often greater than the ammo cost.

CMP has some exemptions in the CFR that allows them to ship cheaper.