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Title: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 01, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
last one of this year
save the date!

all comments/questions/feedback should be addressed in this thread

in response to the obvious first question-
we are working to schedule 2014 dates with the KHSC staff as we speak
stay tuned for more details
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 06, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
Alright fellow shooters dec 28 th will be carbine training. We have redone the curriculum to facilitate the wide array of participants.  So here it goes;
Range set up at 730 am / sign in registration and waivers
101 new shooters instruction 8 am -845am
Regular Instructional training from 9am - 12pm
Free shoot 12noon - 150pm
Range sweep 150pm -2pm
Closed range instruction 2pm - 4pm
These new format is to facilitate the growth of the organization and the wide variety of skill levels that attend. Now we are all able to advance our skills whether it be 101 or advanced we can all learn. :thumbsup:


Re: HDF Range Days
good day all so here is the up coming plans for range day on sat dec 28th. Starting off with the sign in, waivers and fees. everyone must sign in and sign waivers prior to shooting. Everyone! At this time will pay "match fees" collected pior to shooting. Fee schedule as follows HDF current members "match fee" is $10.00.  As For non-members its $20.00 without joininig the HDF, Or they will be encouraged to join the HDF at this time @ $25.00 for membership and then it would be $10.00 for the day total $35.00 so take advantage of this now.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: fatpanda on December 06, 2013, 03:12:20 PM
talked to kanoa this past wednesday and he recommended bringing 400 rnds of rifle.  this might sound alot but I'm sure we wont be shooting that much.  Its good to bring extra rnds anyways.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 06, 2013, 03:25:00 PM
talked to kanoa this past wednesday and he recommended bringing 400 rnds of rifle.  this might sound alot but I'm sure we wont be shooting that much.  Its good to bring extra rnds anyways.
FP its all relative to the day you talking about 6 - 8 hours of constant shooting just to put it in perspective for those to comprehend.
Title: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Jl808 on December 06, 2013, 03:30:19 PM
Ooo.. I'll be able to make this one if the stork hasn't arrived yet.

LOL, 400 rounds... Can I bring a 22LR carbine?
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 06, 2013, 04:12:07 PM
Ooo.. I'll be able to make this one if the stork hasn't arrived yet.

LOL, 400 rounds... Can I bring a 22LR carbine?
yes although this has been asked before. So bottom line is this training time is valuable and we recommend using the firearm you would most likely use in the real situation.  Now if you came to the range day frequently then ok yea use the .22 but if you don't then operating your actual equipment so that you benefit 100% would be my recommendation. 2nd opinion is maybe warm up with the .22 then switch to operating your actual equipment. Jmho
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Bota-CS1 on December 06, 2013, 04:53:08 PM
I'll be there with a +1.
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Post by: Q on December 06, 2013, 05:07:24 PM
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Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: ren on December 06, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
interested. What kind of equipment should I bring. I'm coming from a HP background but I could use some of my Army issued stuff to train.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Aiea78 on December 06, 2013, 06:57:04 PM
Suggestion: 

Posted sign "Closed Range Event - No Photograph/Video" 
for whatever good it can do us against outsiders, at least was there.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 06, 2013, 07:07:19 PM
interested. What kind of equipment should I bring. I'm coming from a HP background but I could use some of my Army issued stuff to train.
well lets see on days that we train carbine a functional sling, mag pouches, spare mags and a system to mount them to ( belt or chest rig). Keep in mind we do some dynamic drills which require low position and running. So equipment functionality is vital can't have your mags flying out when running or recovering from prone. Pistol your gonna need a holster one that is secure and unobstructed by clothing, mag pouches
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Jdelacruz on December 06, 2013, 07:14:35 PM
yes although this has been asked before. So bottom line is this training time is valuable and we recommend using the firearm you would most likely use in the real situation.  Now if you came to the range day frequently then ok yea use the .22 but if you don't then operating your actual equipment so that you benefit 100% would be my recommendation. 2nd opinion is maybe warm up with the .22 then switch to operating your actual equipment. Jmho

I may do this since I have an M&P 15-22 which is almost like my AR-15. Thank you for the suggestion.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Tom_G on December 06, 2013, 10:21:35 PM
See, as long as you keep saying "carbine," I'll keep coming back!
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 06, 2013, 11:00:59 PM
See, as long as you keep saying "carbine," I'll keep coming back!

not sure they expected someone to take it literally when they said that the plan was for carbine
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 07, 2013, 12:20:07 AM
See, as long as you keep saying "carbine," I'll keep coming back!
carbine  :rofl:
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Jdelacruz on December 07, 2013, 06:22:29 AM
Not to get too side tracked but I was wondering if this store was still active.

http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/store/apparel/ (http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/store/apparel/)

I wanted to buy a HDF t-shirt and googled it and got this link. I was about to order but noticed this store is not directly linked on the HDF website (if it is I can't find it).

Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 07, 2013, 07:07:56 AM
Not to get too side tracked but I was wondering if this store was still active.

http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/store/apparel/ (http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/store/apparel/)

I wanted to buy a HDF t-shirt and googled it and got this link. I was about to order but noticed this store is not directly linked on the HDF website (if it is I can't find it).

i'll check with chris
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Jdelacruz on December 07, 2013, 07:08:51 AM
i'll check with chris

Thanks. I appreciate that.
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Post by: Q on December 11, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
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Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 11, 2013, 06:10:51 PM
Mike has a lot on his plate right now
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 12, 2013, 12:01:41 AM
DL and/or Mac:

Any word if they are going to allow HDF to expand into action bay 2?
I guess we won't have word on the 2014 schedule till January so we won't know till then but we submitted for the last Saturday of each month. So even if we get the schedule late we still should be ready to roll. As for the action bay 2 we did ask if we could get it if available. Just a fyi there are 2 new organizations submitted bay request don't know what organization they are as of yet.
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Post by: Q on December 12, 2013, 01:46:57 AM
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Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Tom_G on December 12, 2013, 08:25:45 AM
I guess we won't have word on the 2014 schedule till January ....

In years past, sometimes the schedule has been quite late coming out.  I recall one year running LIFE classes and hosting funshoots for 2 months, and other clubs doing their business, all "on faith" until the schedule finally showed up in March. 
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 12, 2013, 08:31:39 AM
I wonder if these 'organizations' have been able to procure 40+ members on range days as the great DL and mighty macsak have been able to do!  :worship:
:oops: thanks Q it's a team effort and thanks to all of these guys too! Pic of our 40+ attendees at Hdf range day
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: bozo on December 14, 2013, 08:52:07 AM
:oops: thanks Q it's a team effort and thanks to all of these guys too! Pic of our 40+ attendees at Hdf range day

Woohoo...got me a souvenir from that range day.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 15, 2013, 11:44:21 PM
Woohoo...got me a souvenir from that range day.
would that souvenir be bright yellow and reflective? My souvenir is much better :shaka:
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: bozo on December 18, 2013, 07:54:40 PM
would that souvenir be bright yellow and reflective? My souvenir is much better :shaka:

That's right I forgot. Haha.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Funtimes on December 19, 2013, 07:15:16 AM
would that souvenir be bright yellow and reflective? My souvenir is much better :shaka:

Oh no.. Now they are comparing "souvenirs".  :shake:
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: bozo on December 19, 2013, 09:14:05 AM
Oh no.. Now they are comparing "souvenirs".  :shake:
   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 19, 2013, 12:53:59 PM
ok everyone here are the tough decision for this months HDF range day. There is going to be a 30 participant limit on the 9am - noon class. its based on first come basis with HDF members having priority over non members. we fear that due to range closure we might be overwhelmed with participants and being limited on space and qualified personnel for safety reasons.*** Important info**** this limit DOES NOT apply to the 101 class held at 8am-845 and Free range time at 12noon. we are working on a new format to facilitate the higher attendance and different skill levels of shooters so please bear with us. thanks everyone for being a part of this!
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Lifer on December 19, 2013, 01:16:20 PM
ok everyone here are the tough decision for this months HDF range day. There is going to be a 30 participant limit on the class. its based on first come basis with HDF members having priority over non members. we fear that due to range closure we might be overwhelmed with participants and being limited on space and qualified personnel for safety reasons. we are working on a new format to facilitate the higher attendance and different skill levels of shooters so please bear with us. thanks everyone for being a part of this!

Put me on the list, Im in.

Hard decision, but understood.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: ImKu on December 19, 2013, 01:53:24 PM
There is going to be a 30 participant limit on the class. its based on first come basis with HDF members having priority over non members.

How are you signing the 30?  First come at the range or via online responses?  Either way, sign me up and I'll be there early  :shaka:
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: nasdqplaya on December 19, 2013, 01:56:22 PM
Sign me up. I will be there early.
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Post by: Q on December 19, 2013, 01:59:58 PM
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Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2013, 02:06:16 PM
DL,

What about the free shoot portion?

great question, q

per the range day staff,
free shoot is on, unlimited participation in terms of numbers
can shoot anything that is legal in HI, but don't shoot up our target stands
free shoot will be approximately 12 noon to 2 pm
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2013, 02:07:24 PM
How are you signing the 30?  First come at the range or via online responses?  Either way, sign me up and I'll be there early  :shaka:

per the range day staff
pm dirtylickins with your rsvp and give him your cell phone number to confirm
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2013, 02:22:18 PM
In years past, sometimes the schedule has been quite late coming out.  I recall one year running LIFE classes and hosting funshoots for 2 months, and other clubs doing their business, all "on faith" until the schedule finally showed up in March.

schedule for the first 6 months of the year came out this morning
unfortunately, we were not able to get any additional dates nor get the larger action bay
the last saturday of the month, just like before
2014
jan 25
feb 22
mar 29
apr 26
may 31
jun 28

range day staff is working to improve class flow and organization to accommodate more members
please be patient as we work out our plans
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: bozo on December 19, 2013, 03:04:24 PM
Count me in to help out again.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Kuleana on December 19, 2013, 03:09:49 PM
Hi DL,

Just PMed you with my RSVP and phone number.

Please count me in.


Kuleana
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
Count me in to help out again.

mahalo, bozo, you're a good man
i won't be there until the free shoot portion, so they will need the help
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: jonjon on December 19, 2013, 03:52:54 PM
DirtyL - Just sent you a PM

count me in for the 28th  :shaka:
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 19, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
all Pms received 10 so far. everyone is good as of todays rsvp.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Tom_G on December 19, 2013, 07:18:32 PM
Pm sent.
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Bota-CS1 on December 19, 2013, 10:36:55 PM
all Pms received 10 so far. everyone is good as of todays rsvp.


Dirty did you get mine?
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 20, 2013, 07:47:23 AM

Dirty did you get mine?
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Q on December 20, 2013, 02:18:06 PM
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Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Jdelacruz on December 20, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
What's the total now DL?

Would it be possible to post running list of folks signed up?
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on December 20, 2013, 03:11:10 PM
Sign ups is at 15 I will start a new thread with all rsvp tonight. I will also leave a few slots open for people not on 2a that just go off of the info on HDF website. So that will explain why not all 30 names will be posted and the class sign up is closed. Fyi When it happens
Title: Re: december range day- saturday, december 28, 2013
Post by: Coconut-kid on December 20, 2013, 04:44:26 PM
PM sent.