2aHawaii
General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: dafrtknocker on December 03, 2013, 04:58:59 PM
-
Bloomberg to appear at Schatz fundraiser in Kahala, Can't stand neither of them.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131203_Bloomberg_to_appear_at_Schatz_fundraiser_in_Kahala.html (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131203_Bloomberg_to_appear_at_Schatz_fundraiser_in_Kahala.html)
-
Let make sure Schatz doesnt get elected again!
-
Let make sure Schatz doesnt get elected again!
Couldn't agree more but...
Who will the other side scare up as a credible candidate? or will he run unopposed as so often seems to be the case. :(.
-
Let make sure Schatz doesnt get elected again!
THIS!
-
Let make sure Schatz doesnt get elected again!
Not to quibble in a bad way, but let's acknowledge that Schatz has NEVER BEEN ELECTED. He was appointed. So I'd prefer to say "Let's make sure Schatz is never elected, not this first time, not even once, not ever".
-
My bad I forgot......throw Abercrombie out too.....I never liked him even when I was a young kid. I remember him at "HIPPY" parties in early 60's with my parents.
-
Bloomberg to appear at Schatz fundraiser in Kahala, Can't stand neither of them.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131203_Bloomberg_to_appear_at_Schatz_fundraiser_in_Kahala.html (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131203_Bloomberg_to_appear_at_Schatz_fundraiser_in_Kahala.html)
Yeah, Bloomberg thinks no one needs more than three rounds per firearm/magazine ("If you need more than three, you're a lousy shot."). Although as he retires he's taking his 17 (seventeen) NYPD bodyguards (they'll be retiring and getting their pensions too) with him @$150,000 per year (reportedly), and I'd be willing to bet a very large sum of money that those bodyguards will all likely have more than three rounds in the magazines of their firearms. And I also doubt they will be limited to even 10 round magazines. I wouldn't be surprised that some of them might have fully automatic weapons in their possession on occasion.
Bloomberg's a total hypocrite. Or he's just plain way more important and worth defending that much more than you or I and our families. He has a lot of money ($31 BILLION) and he is willing to spend paltry millions all over the place to influence votes to attempt to impose his vision of the nanny/police state upon we lowly know-nothing citizens.
-
Not to quibble in a bad way, but let's acknowledge that Schatz has NEVER BEEN ELECTED. He was appointed. So I'd prefer to say "Let's make sure Schatz is never elected, not this first time, not even once, not ever".
i laugh every time i see schitz's new commercials about windfarms
another effort to latch on to the o'bama bandwagon and to slam the tea party
do some research- solyndra, part deux
-
i laugh every time i see schitz's new commercials about windfarms
another effort to latch on to the o'bama bandwagon and to slam the tea party
do some research- solyndra, part deux
I heard they had to do some pretty heavy-handed editing on those commercials to remove the rainbows and unicorns. :shaka:
-
Bloomberg....
Lucky his Mayors Against Illegal Guns has lost its credibility and his nanny state laws have been balked at by most Smart New Yorkers....
-
Duncan MacNaughton << Gotta watch what this guy does too, hes the one having the fundraiser at his place.....kickbacks for?? Hes a real estate developer
http://www.tmghawaii.com/about/team (http://www.tmghawaii.com/about/team)
-
i laugh every time i see schitz's new commercials about windfarms
another effort to latch on to the o'bama bandwagon and to slam the tea party
do some research- solyndra, part deux
That just goes to show what kind of people vote here in hawaii! sickening... He pretty must is running on, the so far, 6 years of FAIL of obumnutz and avows his radical progressive-ism, and yet people will still vote him in!!! godddamn sickening!!!! :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:
-
It's the party. He's their new generation poster child.
-
i laugh every time i see schitz's new commercials about windfarms
another effort to latch on to the o'bama bandwagon and to slam the tea party
do some research- solyndra, part deux
The ad completely ignores the fact that the power company contracts to buy a fixed amount of power via wind generation. In some cases, once the contract is met, the windmills are turned off (even though they would be producing more power). So while he is fighting for wind farms, it seems futile because the power companies are committed to buying the produce of the wind farms. I didn't see any mention of that anywhere. So it would seem his ad is a little misleading. As I see it, we could have a wind farm on every corner but if the electric company isn't buying the power then yes, I can see the Solyndra thing happening over and over as wind farm after wind farm go BK.
-
i laugh every time i see schitz's new commercials about windfarms
another effort to latch on to the o'bama bandwagon and to slam the tea party
do some research- solyndra, part deux
No to windmills on molokai
-
That just goes to show what kind of people vote here in hawaii! sickening... He pretty must is running on, the so far, 6 years of FAIL of obumnutz and avows his radical progressive-ism, and yet people will still vote him in!!! godddamn sickening!!!! :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:
Just curious. Do you see any possibility or strategy that could possibly stop what appears to be inevitable (Schatz election)? Or is it just the inevitable result of money and corruption that we will have to "live with" (though sickened, disgusted, irate, etc.)?
-
That just goes to show what kind of people vote here in hawaii! sickening... He pretty must is running on, the so far, 6 years of FAIL of obumnutz and avows his radical progressive-ism, and yet people will still vote him in!!! godddamn sickening!!!! :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:
Everybody is drinking the kook-aid, people too stupid to really search and find out what's going on. Just like people who pay more than the new MSRP on a used car. It's online. Do a bit of searching!
Look at Hawaii's voting record historically, not sure when or if that will ever change. Small minded.
-
Just curious. Do you see any possibility or strategy that could possibly stop what appears to be inevitable (Schatz election)? Or is it just the inevitable result of money and corruption that we will have to "live with" (though sickened, disgusted, irate, etc.)?
What kind of strategy would you suggest? ??? Nothing really to do except try to convince as many of my acquaintances and relatives to vote for someone else.... if they care to vote at all.... Even MANY gun people don't care to vote and don't care to be involved with the protection of 2A. This is why this is so frustrating... I get out when I can, and do what I can.
-
What kind of strategy would you suggest? ??? Nothing really to do except try to convince as many of my acquaintances and relatives to vote for someone else.... if they care to vote at all.... Even MANY gun people don't care to vote and don't care to be involved with the protection of 2A. This is why this is so frustrating... I get out when I can, and do what I can.
I don't know of any strategy that could turn around a result like the last senatorial election: 63% Democrat, 37% Republican... and the Republican outspent the Democrat. I was hoping maybe you had some magical wand or something else I hadn't thought of. Like you say, talking to people and hopefully informing them of the issues is about all one can do, short of organizing "rallies" or "protests", and I'm not really sure that changes any minds of the general voting population, though it could (may, might, conceivably could, etc.) influence a legislator's voting on a particular issue if directed specifically at them. That, or donate a few million to your candidate... which I'm just a little short on at the moment. Not sure how you overcome seriously entrenched special interests (everyone getting "favors" from the current administration). In a place like Hawaii, where the welfare recipients receive the equivalent (cash, medical benefits, food stamps, etc.) of just under $30 an hour wage (#1 in the U.S.), and a huge percentage of the population is employed by the government, there is serious momentum for the status quo.
As you said, it's seriously frustrating, and sickening to see our rights and liberties being sold out.
:shaka:
-
I don't know of any strategy that could turn around a result like the last senatorial election: 63% Democrat, 37% Republican... and the Republican outspent the Democrat. I was hoping maybe you had some magical wand or something else I hadn't thought of. Like you say, talking to people and hopefully informing them of the issues is about all one can do, short of organizing "rallies" or "protests", and I'm not really sure that changes any minds of the general voting population, though it could (may, might, conceivably could, etc.) influence a legislator's voting on a particular issue if directed specifically at them. That, or donate a few million to your candidate... which I'm just a little short on at the moment. Not sure how you overcome seriously entrenched special interests (everyone getting "favors" from the current administration). In a place like Hawaii, where the welfare recipients receive the equivalent (cash, medical benefits, food stamps, etc.) of just under $30 an hour wage (#1 in the U.S.), and a huge percentage of the population is employed by the government, there is serious momentum for the status quo.
As you said, it's seriously frustrating, and sickening to see our rights and liberties being sold out.
:shaka:
No one is fired up about the direction this country is taking, what I mean by no one is that you don't see mass amounts of people talking about it. I talk to people about it. I end up offending a lot. As far as I'm concerned these people are the problem, gun owners who don't vote included. Vote with your wallet and cast your ballot. Join the NRA or other like minded liberty group. Study the constitution, the real document! Have your kids study it too. We will all be extinct soon if not.
-
No one is fired up about the direction this country is taking, what I mean by no one is that you don't see mass amounts of people talking about it. I talk to people about it. I end up offending a lot. As far as I'm concerned these people are the problem, gun owners who don't vote included. Vote with your wallet and cast your ballot. Join the NRA or other like minded liberty group. Study the constitution, the real document! Have your kids study it too. We will all be extinct soon if not.
Well, I think there is a definite minority of people who are "fired up about the direction this country is taking"... a small minority... but definitely concerned and active to the extent possible. That's the source of my frustration: "the extent possible". My exasperation is that if voting is really the only effective possibility of changing things, all I ever see (realistically in terms of who will actually get enough votes to win... my Libertarian preferences have no real shot) are two choices: one of whom wants to impose government restrictions and limit my freedom in certain areas of my personal life, and the other choice who wants to impose government restrictions and limit my freedom in other areas of my personal life. What kind of "choice" is that? The fact that my "choice" seems to be limited to the "lesser of two evils" is rather depressing... I can understand why so many people are not interested in the voting process... does it really make any difference except in relatively minor things? Both "parties" follow the money... the lobbies and vested interests that fund their campaigns/lifestyles. Rarely or never are those interests the same as we "little people"... ordinary citizens. I want to do something to really change things, but I just don't know what that would be. >:( :(
As an example of minority dissatisfaction with the status quo, I just saw the Harvard Institute of Politics polling of "Millennials" (age 18-29) who were asked "If you could recall and replace various elected officials, would you recall President Obama? Total YES 47%. Age 18-24 52%. Age 25-29 40%. It seems as if there is at least a relatively high level of dissatisfaction... whether that translates into action, and what kind of action... that's another question.
Here's a link to one of the summaries, which includes a link to the full report: http://iop.harvard.edu/blog/iop-releases-new-fall-poll-5-key-findings-and-trends-millennial-viewpoints?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=hero&utm_campaign=Fall2013Survey (http://iop.harvard.edu/blog/iop-releases-new-fall-poll-5-key-findings-and-trends-millennial-viewpoints?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=hero&utm_campaign=Fall2013Survey)
-
.
-
Article V of the United States Constitution provides an interesting option.
(http://simplysolo.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/resetbutton.jpg?w=199&h=300)
I keep trying to vote, however a lot of people tell me you have to look back to the JFK era to see what we really lost. Probably before that even. I know JFK was offed because he wasn't going along with the group who has been driving the bus ever since.
I question certain amendments to the Constitution, and some things that went down during teddy Roosevelt's time. I know the bank was killed off how many times? 2-3. Yet the FED is alive and kicking.
-
I think the problem with our local political scene is due in large part to apathy and group think. I've often heard many younger and over 30 yr. old folks say they vote for the Democrat Party because their mom or dad voted that way their whole lives, so they follow suit. That would be the group think that permeates Hawaii. Many voters here are completely clueless when it comes to being informed on the issues. Their inability or lack of desire to become informed is due to simple apathy or laziness, which is something you kind of understand due to Hawaii's laid back culture. And liberal types are very effective in using emotional arguments that may be logically wrong, but appeal to low information voters - something Hawaii has in abundance.
-
I think the problem with our local political scene is due in large part to apathy and group think. I've often heard many younger and over 30 yr. old folks say they vote for the Democrat Party because their mom or dad voted that way their whole lives, so they follow suit. That would be the group think that permeates Hawaii. Many voters here are completely clueless when it comes to being informed on the issues. Their inability or lack of desire to become informed is due to simple apathy or laziness, which is something you kind of understand due to Hawaii's laid back culture. And liberal types are very effective in using emotional arguments that may be logically wrong, but appeal to low information voters - something Hawaii has in abundance.
Also, one of the biggest problems here in Hawaii is what I call 'plantation mentality', where no matter how much the status quo pisses the people off, they are unable to pose a defiance to it. They just shrug it of to 'what it is, is.... what can I do about it?' Then go back to doing what they do.... which is nothing....
-
Also, one of the biggest problems here in Hawaii is what I call 'plantation mentality', where no matter how much the status quo pisses the people off, they are unable to pose a defiance to it. They just shrug it of to 'what it is, is.... what can I do about it?' Then go back to doing what they do.... which is nothing....
Lucky we live hawaii :shaka: :crazy: