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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: sythacus on January 13, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
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Stolen Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport, serial number SU08662, please keep an eye out for me.
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Stolen Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport, serial number SU08662, please keep an eye out for me.
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Stolen Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport, serial number SU08662, please keep an eye out for me.
ooh
several were for sale in the past week or so
sorry for your loss
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Stolen from where?
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Good luck in finding the rifle.
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Stolen Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport, serial number SU08662, please keep an eye out for me.
A back story would be good maybe a location from where it was jacked could be useful. Thanks
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A back story would be good maybe a location from where it was jacked could be useful. Thanks
Stolen from my residence in Honolulu, rifle was just acquired last week and I really feel that I was targeted somehow because all that was taken was the rifle and 2 empty backpacks, nothing else was touched. I really just want to put this out there so nobody buys a stolen rifle. It's not an expensive rifle, certainly not worth a felony record for the thief.
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Stolen from my residence in Honolulu, rifle was just acquired last week and I really feel that I was targeted somehow because all that was taken was the rifle and 2 empty backpacks, nothing else was touched. I really just want to put this out there so nobody buys a stolen rifle. It's not an expensive rifle, certainly not worth a felony record for the thief.
People would still buy guns even though it's stolen, especially criminals! It's not an expensive rifle and not worth the charges to you, but to the thieven criminal who has it now has the upper hand on unarmed citizens. Now we have to worry about someone with a semi auto rifle" not assault rifle!" running around oahu doing criminal activity that could jeopardize our fragile firearm rights...
From what it sounds like they knew were the rifle was in the house and they probably streaked out or knew your schedules. More likely it might be an inside job....
Then again brother good luck, the rifle will turn up eventually, hopefully when it's not to late or at a crime scene. :shaka:
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Icehead hanging outside of Waialae 7-11 today. He was sitting on the curb, covered in open sores from scratching his skin off and counting a big wad of cash. Kind of made me feel sick just looking at the dude knowing he just fenced somebody's stuff to buy some shit. Don't know why I'm sharing this because it probably wasn't the same guy. It feels like it could have been, though. everyone stay safe out there.
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Icehead hanging outside of Waialae 7-11 today. He was sitting on the curb, covered in open sores from scratching his skin off and counting a big wad of cash. Kind of made me feel sick just looking at the dude knowing he just fenced somebody's stuff to buy some shit. Don't know why I'm sharing this because it probably wasn't the same guy. It feels like it could have been, though. everyone stay safe out there.
Now, don't go jumping to conclusions.
He might have just cashed his middle-of-the-month gov't check...
or, he could have received his royalty check from his acting job -- playing one of the Zombies in The Walking Dead! (no make-up needed!)
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Wow! Good luck finding your rifle. I don't yet have a large gun safe but all my weapons are secured to prevent somebody from just walking off with it. All are in hard cases chained down with heavy gauge cable. Not at all theft proof but it will hopefully slow a thief down.
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Just asking, but did you notify the police?
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Edit: kaloman beat me to my?
Good luck I hope your rifle is found. Was the theft reported to the Police? If you don't have a safe/storage container others have mentioned alternative storage methods above, another option is to store in pieces so as thief can't take the whole rifle as easy, i.e. upper in one location with bolt removed and then the lower in a different location. I have one rifle that is too long for my safe so it is secured elsewhere with the bolt removed and secured in the safe, without the bolt she is just a fancy club.
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Stolen from my residence in Honolulu, rifle was just acquired last week and I really feel that I was targeted somehow because all that was taken was the rifle and 2 empty backpacks, nothing else was touched. I really just want to put this out there so nobody buys a stolen rifle. It's not an expensive rifle, certainly not worth a felony record for the thief.
Please tell me that it was stored properly and locked up? Please.........
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Please tell me that it was stored properly and locked up? Please.........
By law, there is only one situation where a firearm is required to be locked up:
[§134-10.5] Storage of firearm; responsibility with respect to minors. No person shall store or keep any firearm on any premises under the person's control if the person knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the parent or guardian of the minor, unless the person:
(1) Keeps the firearm in a securely locked box or other container or in a location that a reasonable person would believe to be secure; or
(2) Carries the firearm on the person or within such close proximity thereto that the person readily can retrieve and use it as if it were carried on the person.
For purposes of this section, "minor" means any person under the age of sixteen years. [L 1992, c 288, §1]
On the other hand, most gun owners concerned with preventing theft/"guns in the wrong hands" will buy a safe regardless of what the law requires.
What constitutes "proper storage" depends on the standard you are applying...
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By law, there is only one situation where a firearm is required to be locked up:
On the other hand, most gun owners concerned with preventing theft/"guns in the wrong hands" will buy a safe regardless of what the law requires.
What constitutes "proper storage" depends on the standard you are applying...
Common sense standards! Duh. Lock up your shit so it don't get stolen or someone's kid shoots themselves or someone else with it. Common freaking sense. Can't argue with that!
Stolen firearms is one way the people that shouldn't have firearms obtain them. Then, you get shit like Aurora, Sandy Hook, and others. It is part of the problem with a very simple solution.
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Common sense standards! Duh. Lock up your shit so it don't get stolen or someone's kid shoots themselves or someone else with it. Common freaking sense. Can't argue with that!
Stolen firearms is one way the people that shouldn't have firearms obtain them. Then, you get shit like Aurora, Sandy Hook, and others. It is part of the problem with a very simple solution.
Common sense isn't "common" .... otherwise, Obama would have not had one, much less two, terms....
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Common sense isn't "common" .... otherwise, Obama would have not had one, much less two, terms....
Why you would argue about this is beyond me. If you don't think that secure storage of firearms is important then you are part of the problem. You don't need laws to tell you that the best way to keep firearms out of the hands of those that should not have them is to lock them up and store them securely so access is severely restricted. Every time a kid shoots up his school with a firearm that he/she shouldn't have access to the Second Ammendment takes a hit. If you don't agree with the safe and secure storage of firearms, maybe you shouldn't have them either. If you leave them under your bed and they get stolen (not that this happened to OP as he hasn't given the details of his storage arrangement) you had it coming. This is the kind of stuff that make it difficult to defend your right to bear arms. C'mon.....
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Why you would argue about this is beyond me. If you don't think that secure storage of firearms is important then you are part of the problem. You don't need laws to tell you that the best way to keep firearms out of the hands of those that should not have them is to lock them up and store them securely so access is severely restricted. Every time a kid shoots up his school with a firearm that he/she shouldn't have access to the Second Ammendment takes a hit. If you don't agree with the safe and secure storage of firearms, maybe you shouldn't have them either. If you leave them under your bed and they get stolen (not that this happened to OP as he hasn't given the details of his storage arrangement) you had it coming. This is the kind of stuff that make it difficult to defend your right to bear arms. C'mon.....
Yes sir Bud! When I took my NRA firearms safety course the instructor stressed clearly the amount of responsibility that weighs in when owning a firearm. From how one carries himself when handling the firearm to, of course, this topic of locking up your firearms. Without question as a responsible firearm owner we are required to secure our firearms in a locked safe; not because it is "law" but because we are "responsible" firearm owners.
As stated above this is how firearms turn into weapons in undesirable hands…+1 on your comments Bud.
I hope your m&p sport is found safe and sound and a good lesson is learned. Please contact HPD if you have not already.
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Why you would argue about this is beyond me. If you don't think that secure storage of firearms is important then you are part of the problem. You don't need laws to tell you that the best way to keep firearms out of the hands of those that should not have them is to lock them up and store them securely so access is severely restricted. Every time a kid shoots up his school with a firearm that he/she shouldn't have access to the Second Ammendment takes a hit. If you don't agree with the safe and secure storage of firearms, maybe you shouldn't have them either. If you leave them under your bed and they get stolen (not that this happened to OP as he hasn't given the details of his storage arrangement) you had it coming. This is the kind of stuff that make it difficult to defend your right to bear arms. C'mon.....
Bud, if you think I'm arguing against having a safe, you need to re-read my posts!
On the other hand, most gun owners concerned with preventing theft/"guns in the wrong hands" will buy a safe regardless of what the law requires.
:stopjack:
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Bud, if you think I'm arguing against having a safe, you need to re-read my posts!
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That's the problem, "MOST" should have been changed to "ALL"--- because if only "MOST" are concerned, then people's stuff will continue to be stolen and people who shouldn't have it will get it. So if OP left his gun unsecured and it got stolen too bad. Don't come crying here acting like it was some type of injustice. I can hardly imagine this M&P 15 winding up in the classifieds. I hope he gets it back so that no harm comes to anyone. But at the same time I hope everyone secures their firearms against theft. I mean EVERYONE, not just "MOST" everyone.
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That's the problem, "MOST" should have been changed to "ALL"--- because if only "MOST" are concerned, then people's stuff will continue to be stolen and people who shouldn't have it will get it. So if OP left his gun unsecured and it got stolen too bad. Don't come crying here acting like it was some type of injustice. I can hardly imagine this M&P 15 winding up in the classifieds. I hope he gets it back so that no harm comes to anyone. But at the same time I hope everyone secures their firearms against theft. I mean EVERYONE, not just "MOST" everyone.
You don't know ALL gun owners. Therefore, you don't know if what you are saying is true for ALL.
Guns are stolen all the time. I have a friend who's guns were stolen after their safe was broken into. The thieves set the closet on fire blowing open the door. So, guns will still be stolen even if ALL concerned owners use safes.
I'd bet ALMOST ALL new gun owners buy their gun first, and THEN they go out and get the safe. They shop around, look at classifieds, and compare prices and features. It could take a few days. This OP, for all you know, ordered a safe and is waiting for delivery.
My point is, you don't know.
:stopjack:
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Bud, if you think I'm arguing against having a safe, you need to re-read my posts!
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Another back to topic sign? Woah how ORIGINAL of you!!!! But sir you are clearly OFF the topic majority of the time.... Every time I see you on a thread it's either you are arguing with someone or posting something uninformative information!! Not to be a thread police and I'm new on 2a but you are f#%king annoying!!!
Oh I forgot :stopjack:
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Another back to topic sign? Woah how ORIGINAL of you!!!! But sir you are clearly OFF the topic majority of the time.... Every time I see you on a thread it's either you are arguing with someone or posting something uninformative information!! Not to be a thread police and I'm new on 2a but you are f#%king annoying!!!
Oh I forgot :stopjack:
PM'ed you (you know what that means? Since you're a Newbie, I thought I'd ask.)
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Sorry for your loss brah :( but in hindsight, there should've been a safe waiting at home to secure it in. Also, I would think about your friends that you associate with. For someone to break in and just take the rifle and a couple backpacks, it's more than likely someone you know. Sometimes, lessons are learned the hard way. Hopefully not at the expense of others.
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Hope you find your firearm man, take it as a lesson learned.
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You don't know ALL gun owners. Therefore, you don't know if what you are saying is true for ALL.
Guns are stolen all the time. I have a friend who's guns were stolen after their safe was broken into. The thieves set the closet on fire blowing open the door. So, guns will still be stolen even if ALL concerned owners use safes.
I'd bet ALMOST ALL new gun owners buy their gun first, and THEN they go out and get the safe. They shop around, look at classifieds, and compare prices and features. It could take a few days. This OP, for all you know, ordered a safe and is waiting for delivery.
My point is, you don't know.
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Right, so I just bought a bicycle and ordered a lock. I am waiting for the lock to come. So its OK to ride my bike everywhere and not lock it up? I know, bikes are stolen all the time even when they are locked up. But, I would wager that more unlocked bikes are stolen than locked bikes? Your arguments are comical. Why defend this position? If you have something dangerous, lock it the fuck up. Period. If you can't, then maybe don't buy it until you can. Pretty simple. I know I don't know everything about all people. But what I do know, is that if you own firearms, they should be locked up so people that shouldn't have them are not able to get them from you (if you take the time to do this and they are still stolen, well then at least you did your due dilligence. But to just say what you are saying....really? ). I just hope that this guy's M&P 15 doesn't wind up in the hand of some 16 year old who is pissed off at his teacher and decides ......well you know how these stories end.
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PM'ed you (you know what that means? Since you're a Newbie, I thought I'd ask.)
PM'd ?
Air this crap out in public for all of us to enjoy ! :D
To the OP,
Hope you get your gun back man. But definitely report it to HPD if you haven't. ( assume you have )
You are strictly liable for what that gun is used for if it's not reported stolen.
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Right, so I just bought a bicycle and ordered a lock. I am waiting for the lock to come. So its OK to ride my bike everywhere and not lock it up? I know, bikes are stolen all the time even when they are locked up. But, I would wager that more unlocked bikes are stolen than locked bikes? Your arguments are comical. Why defend this position? If you have something dangerous, lock it the fuck up. Period. If you can't, then maybe don't buy it until you can. Pretty simple. I know I don't know everything about all people. But what I do know, is that if you own firearms, they should be locked up so people that shouldn't have them are not able to get them from you (if you take the time to do this and they are still stolen, well then at least you did your due dilligence. But to just say what you are saying....really? ). I just hope that this guy's M&P 15 doesn't wind up in the hand of some 16 year old who is pissed off at his teacher and decides ......well you know how these stories end.
Bud, you should start your own thread for this .... Why gun buyers should have a safe and when they ought to buy it.
I told you I wasn't arguing with you, but you won't take "I agree" for an answer.
Let's move along... :wave:
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Anybody remembers the days when you went to register your firearms you had to show a diagram of where your safe was?
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What a wonderful forum this is where a guy can tell people to be on the lookout for a stolen gun and get preached at for not keeping it a safe.
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What a wonderful forum this is where a guy can tell people to be on the lookout for a stolen gun and get preached at for not keeping it a safe.
I agree, Bruddah was just putting out an APB on a stolen rifle to prevent us from buying one and to keep on the lookout.
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What a wonderful forum this is where a guy can tell people to be on the lookout for a stolen gun and get preached at for not keeping it a safe.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Safe within a safe within another safe is the only answer. safeception
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What a wonderful forum this is where a guy can tell people to be on the lookout for a stolen gun and get preached at for not keeping it a safe.
Buy a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime.
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Buy a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime.
What are you talking about ?
You lost all your crap in a boating accident ! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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What are you talking about ?
You lost all your crap in a boating accident ! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yes, they are sitting at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean somewhere but... They are all safely locked in a safe.