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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Redtail on November 14, 2009, 09:11:08 AM

Title: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Redtail on November 14, 2009, 09:11:08 AM
Which indoor range would you recommend here, must have great customer service.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Tom_G on November 14, 2009, 10:14:50 AM
I've yet to shoot there, but I know the guys at Waikiki Gun Shop (http://www.hawaiigunclub.com/en/range.html).  I would expect excellent customer service from them!
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Redtail on November 14, 2009, 10:08:43 PM
Koko head is too far for me, I wish there's another one here on the leeward side.  How about magnum firearms?

Is Leilehua Shooting Range still open?
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bknaka on March 28, 2013, 09:04:37 AM
i wonder if any more have popped up since.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 28, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
I've yet to shoot there, but I know the guys at Waikiki Gun Shop (http://www.hawaiigunclub.com/en/range.html).  I would expect excellent customer service from them!

Last time I checked, they don't allow outside firearms at their range.

Only their rental guns.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: kavawava on March 28, 2013, 09:14:56 AM
Holy crap this thread is from 2009?!
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: poiboi808 on March 28, 2013, 12:48:19 PM
Holy crap this thread is from 2009?!

Haha, well bknaka is "known to revive old but good Posts at times". Isn't X-Ring planning to open theirs at the end of the year? I hope so though!
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: SpeedTek on March 28, 2013, 12:51:07 PM
Haha, well bknaka is "known to revive old but good Posts at times". Isn't X-Ring planning to open theirs at the end of the year? I hope so though!

he likes digging graves....

hopefully yes....the project is in full steam forward....
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bknaka on March 28, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
he likes digging graves....

hopefully yes....the project is in full steam forward....

where is it going to be. Leeward side?
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: SpeedTek on March 28, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
where is it going to be. Leeward side?

You have been to xring before right?
On the left side of the shop. That entire space!
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bknaka on March 28, 2013, 06:31:49 PM
You have been to xring before right?
On the left side of the shop. That entire space!

 Awesome. I work about 2 minutes away from you guys and it will be great to squeeze off a couple of rounds after work. I'm excited
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: digital808 on March 28, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
Awesome. I work about 2 minutes away from you guys and it will be great to squeeze off a couple of rounds after work. I'm excited

You hope you can shoot off couple rounds after work!  I think the Whole westside going be there!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bass monkey on March 28, 2013, 08:46:17 PM
Awesome. I work about 2 minutes away from you guys and it will be great to squeeze off a couple of rounds after work. I'm excited

What kind of work do you do?
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bknaka on March 28, 2013, 09:01:11 PM
What kind of work do you do?

 I'm a prostitute.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: OldFaithful on March 28, 2013, 09:05:09 PM
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Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bass monkey on March 28, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
I'm a prostitute.

Right in the pupus, with the halfway house right there.  Must be choke action!!!
 :shaka:
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bknaka on March 28, 2013, 09:15:02 PM
I got hjs, bjs, and zjs. If you have to ask what a zj is, you can't afford it.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: dirsh on May 08, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
this leilehua indoor range keeps popping up in google searches. Is it an old range that closed down?
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Pizzo on May 08, 2013, 04:01:28 PM
Wasn't OGC going to open one, or did that get cancelled?
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: bass monkey on May 08, 2013, 04:31:43 PM
Carter said they running into unforeseen problems.

X ring still doing their range.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: OGC on May 08, 2013, 04:37:12 PM
Carter said they running into unforeseen problems.

X ring still doing their range.

zoning.  grrrrrrr
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Pizzo on May 08, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
zoning.  grrrrrrr
Damn, that sucks!!

I work on sand island so having a range at OGC would be solid!!
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Aiea78 on May 08, 2013, 05:59:47 PM
Fluctuations!

wait, wrong thread. NVM
:p
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: michalebsdad on May 08, 2013, 07:21:55 PM
Honolulu Firearms has an indoor range and you can bring your own gun (need to bring registration with you)...the catch, you HAVE to purchase ammo from them.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: GZire on May 09, 2013, 07:20:20 AM
zoning.  grrrrrrr


Potential to move to another location where zoning is not a problem?..........and neither is parking?
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: fstbckgt on May 09, 2013, 10:58:44 AM
..the catch, you HAVE to purchase ammo from them.

Can any indoor range in Hawaii afford the insurance for it to be otherwise? How else would they know if you are using reloads or not.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: mykdebauch on May 09, 2013, 04:55:47 PM

Potential to move to another location where zoning is not a problem?..........and neither is parking?

that's what i head when i talked to the guys a few weeks back. wondering if anyone has any news on OGCs range or new location. i was so stoked when i heard they were opening a range because i live like 5min away. i hope they'll somehow manage to get past the zoning and open it at their current location.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Volcano on May 09, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
Cant wait til anyone opens an indoor range where you can shoot your own ammo.  Also hope its at least 75 feet.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: GZire on May 10, 2013, 10:40:57 AM
Cant wait til anyone opens an indoor range where you can shoot your own ammo.  Also hope its at least 75 feet.


That would be nice but realistically with land costs, environmental concerns, litigation, etc. it really won't happen.  The alternative would be the range would need to charge really high rates in order to recover costs and turn a reasonable profit.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: Sturmgeschutz on May 10, 2013, 12:35:26 PM
From looking at the business models that some investors once entertained... Ammo, accessories and refreshment sales are key income items above range and membership fees.

The big issue on using outside ammo  or reloads is based not just on income, but also on the rating of the traps and the liability when someone's hot reloads go boom...You also have to make sure frang is being shot when required and not FMJ.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: GZire on May 10, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
^^^Something some people don't realize is pressure from rounds.  Wrong cartridges can mean the lighting gets blown out.  If the lighting is flourescent then you are dealing with mercury.  Just lots of little stuff to consider.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: moosed on May 10, 2013, 08:55:06 PM
One thing to contemplate ... rather than a range open to the public, why not a shooting club?  Dues, training classes (state required hunting, pistol and advanced), private lessons, special events, gun rentals, ammo sales, shooting supplies, targets, a nice snack bar where you can watch the shooters behind safety glass or on closed circuit monitors, and, or course, competition leagues.

Having a club versus a public enterprise would help support the place with dues, sales, and event fees.  It also might help insurance cost if more serious shooters frequent the club versus the "public range" crowd who just go to blast the sides of the crater and make loud noises.

Just brainstorming out loud.  I would think a more up-scale range would do well.  There are many who don't go to Koko Head because it's outdoors, dirty, run down (although getting a face lift now), etc. 
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: macsak on May 10, 2013, 10:15:27 PM
i believe that's what carter had planned for the OGC range- members only, guests need to be cleared

One thing to contemplate ... rather than a range open to the public, why not a shooting club?  Dues, training classes (state required hunting, pistol and advanced), private lessons, special events, gun rentals, ammo sales, shooting supplies, targets, a nice snack bar where you can watch the shooters behind safety glass or on closed circuit monitors, and, or course, competition leagues.

Having a club versus a public enterprise would help support the place with dues, sales, and event fees.  It also might help insurance cost if more serious shooters frequent the club versus the "public range" crowd who just go to blast the sides of the crater and make loud noises.

Just brainstorming out loud.  I would think a more up-scale range would do well.  There are many who don't go to Koko Head because it's outdoors, dirty, run down (although getting a face lift now), etc.
Title: Re: Indoor private ranges
Post by: GZire on May 13, 2013, 08:49:13 AM
One thing to contemplate ... rather than a range open to the public, why not a shooting club?  Dues, training classes (state required hunting, pistol and advanced), private lessons, special events, gun rentals, ammo sales, shooting supplies, targets, a nice snack bar where you can watch the shooters behind safety glass or on closed circuit monitors, and, or course, competition leagues.

Having a club versus a public enterprise would help support the place with dues, sales, and event fees.  It also might help insurance cost if more serious shooters frequent the club versus the "public range" crowd who just go to blast the sides of the crater and make loud noises.

Just brainstorming out loud.  I would think a more up-scale range would do well.  There are many who don't go to Koko Head because it's outdoors, dirty, run down (although getting a face lift now), etc.

We've had shooting clubs in the past that have not made it.  IMHO to make this work without having extremely high costs, you need tourists.  The only real successful ranges on Oahu are those that cater to tourists.  If it was profitable to allow the local users, it would have happened (and continued) by now.

With regards to me visiting Kokohead the primary reasons;
1. Space - oftentimes there is none.  This is not helped by people who camp out and do not send that many rounds downrange.
2. Safety - it can get spooky sometimes when you watch the people out there.