2aHawaii
General Topics => Strategies and Tactics => Topic started by: Kingkeoni on May 26, 2011, 08:58:30 PM
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There is mass bedlam and you have to go on the run. Away from your home.
And you have to choose.
A) Ruger 10/22 with 5000 rounds of .22lr.
B) Glock 17 with 500 rounds of 9mm
C) Remington 870 with 100 rounds of double ought.
There are no other options. No other weapons.
Which would you choose to protect yourself and why?
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Glock 17 no question. Will ABOSOLUTELY run dirty, 9mm is so common that you will come across more eventually. 9mm is lethal enough.
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.22, 9mm and 12ga 00buck. They can't defeat most armor.. .22 has greater accuracy, greater range, and has put more meat on the table than any other round. A good.22 rifle and 5000 rounds beats any other platform at 1/10th the ammo.
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Glock 17 with high cap magazines. Easier to conceal without alerting someone that your armed. I would make use of the g17 to secure more weapons..
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Define "Mass Bedlam" ;)
Am I up against the terrorist or just sheeple?
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.22, 9mm and 12ga 00buck. They can't defeat most armor.. .22 has greater accuracy, greater range, and has put more meat on the table than any other round. A good.22 rifle and 5000 rounds beats any other platform at 1/10th the ammo.
I agree. .22lr would have the most all around utility.
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Are we talking about a Red Dawn (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Red_Dawn) scenario? If so, I'd take the Glock and pick up the first rifle I found.
If just talking about the need for utility, a .22 would do nicely. 5000 rounds would be pretty heavy though.
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I'd take the glock. In hawaii, most likely you gonna be running into a terrorist at probably pretty close range. (well i would since i'm always in a urban environment). Not to mention i dont want to be running around with a rifle or shotgun and some fool ends up shooting me cause they think i'm a terrorist.
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I bet it is like 5,000 rounds of that crap winchester .22lr stuff they sell at Sports Authority :P. I had a bullet fall out of the round I was holding lol.
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does anyone know how much the weight difference would be if any? The inquisitive, lazy people want to know :D
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does anyone know how much the weight difference would be if any? The inquisitive, lazy people want to know :D
A brick (500 rounds) is about 3-4lbs, so 5000 would be 30-40lbs.
Are we talking about a Red Dawn (http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Red_Dawn) scenario? If so, I'd take the Glock and pick up the first rifle I found.
If just talking about the need for utility, a .22 would do nicely. 5000 rounds would be pretty heavy though.
Ahhh...Red Dawn, a classic. If that were the case, I'd probably choose a shotgun then take the AK off the first guy I make dead.
But terrorists/insurgents don't attack en masse, so a 10/22 with loads of ammo would probably serve one better. Sure it's a "baby" sized bullet, but don't discount the ability to lay down suppressive fire (something you can't do if limited on ammo). Even if you miss (A LOT), you'll get keep their heads down and live to fight another day.
***As a plus, you can make an expedient suppressor with parts you find in you kitchen. Silent and deadly.
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I would take the 10/22.
5000 rounds of ammo compared to only 500 of the 9mm is what makes the decision for me.
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I would take the 22, hands down. You can put a whole lot of discouragement with a 10/22, provided the ammo was there and you had mags available.... although i'd be pressed to stick that glock in my waistband after picking up the 22, lol. I know, your scenario was different....
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Glock just to blend in the crowd, because standing out with a firearm creates attention+ conflict= less chance of survival.
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10/22. Ammo capacity, quantity, flexibility.
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Now y'all know I'm a 10/22 man, yet in this scenario, I would definitely take the glock.
500 rounds of 9mm is plenty to see through a limited upset such as this scenario, a small pistol is easily concealed when traveling or moving through cities, and 9mm is extremely effective for self defense.
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Well, since the only one of the guns I own is a Remington 870, and apparently the rest of my collection has evaporated into thin air...
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The 22 makes a lot of sense but I have to agree that you wont be able to walk around with it.
I'd probably choose the 9mm
or......
If I had quick access to a hacksaw, I might pick the shotty
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Well, since the only one of the guns I own is a Remington 870, and apparently the rest of my collection has evaporated into thin air...
Haha me too
Although if the other two magically appeared, I'd go with the 22. Much more versatile and well 5000>500>100. Gun with no bullets=beatdown stick.
The 22 makes a lot of sense but I have to agree that you wont be able to walk around with it.
I'd probably choose the 9mm
or......
If I had quick access to a hacksaw, I might pick the shotty
You're gonna hack off the extended mag tube? :wacko:
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You're gonna hack off the extended mag tube? :wacko:
where did it say the 870 had a extended mag tube?
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You're gonna hack off the extended mag tube? :wacko:
where did it say the 870 had a extended mag tube?
Who doesn't have an extended mag tube? (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=2708.0)
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Millions of people. I'd say there are more standard tube 870s out there than extended.
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where did it say the 870 had a extended mag tube?
Who doesn't have an extended mag tube? (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=2708.0)
I don't even own a shotgun.
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the 10/22 for bugging in and stay hidden in a structure
the shotty if im traveling in a group of friends and family(they also are armed)
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Millions of people. I'd say there are more standard tube 870s out there than extended.
100% of the replies to the "show off your 870" thread have an extended mag tube, makes it seem like a pretty popular option around here.
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100% of the replies to the "show off your 870" thread have an extended mag tube, makes it seem like a pretty popular option around here.
Most of the "tactical" 870's have extended mags.
The rest of the 870's out there (hunting,skeet,trap) don't usually have them.
Usually if you see a 870 with a wood stock, its got a standard magazine.
I love extended magazines, i've been considering this one...
http://www.xrailbyrci.com/ (http://www.xrailbyrci.com/)
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I have a 870 that I transformed over the years - folding stock, pistol grip, mag extension, side saddle shell carrier, ect. I found that all the combat cosplay stuff don't add much to the shootability. I use it in near stock condition other than plastic has replaced the wood and a large safety button and hiviz follower for mostly for hunting. If I'm hunting bird or pig, first round hits and safety are more important than looking cool.
If I'm hunting 2 legged varmints, I'd rather have a weapon with greater range and accuracy.
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I love extended magazines, i've been considering this one...
http://www.xrailbyrci.com/ (http://www.xrailbyrci.com/)
Cool. that support arm may get a little tired though ;D
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where did it say the 870 had a extended mag tube?
1. use a vltor sling and tighten it up for supprt
2. xrail/sling/laser sight/ Mossberg Chainsaw foregrip/firing form the hip
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Just call the cops! thats what the Politicians want you to do.
They will save your arse!
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The 22 makes a lot of sense but I have to agree that you wont be able to walk around with it.
I'd probably choose the 9mm
or......
If I had quick access to a hacksaw, I might pick the shotty
But in all this mayhem if you cut off the BBL then the ATF will come after you and forget about the terrorists!
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Aloha 2a...first post. Cool thread.
I agree with some of the aforementioned....I'd grab the Glock. Dependable, lots of ammo, concealable. My 2nd choice would be the 870 if I had a bug out spot that was sustainable where the only thing I had to worry about was getting found. :shaka:
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870 - pump action- makes your adversary thing twice, unless they are better armed.
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870 boom... nice...
Dont know why peeps keep dismissing/trusting a a good auto .22...
A good round in an accurate semi -.22 is deadly... a double or triple tap.... shut the lights, shut the shades... good night Irene! :thumbsup: JMHO.... :shake: