2aHawaii
General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kingkeoni on May 30, 2011, 01:10:21 PM
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If there was new legislation passed that said that you could only own one single firearm in one caliber, which one would you choose.
Just one firearm.
For home defense
For self defense
For hunting
For the range
For everything
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I would choose a Remington 870 in 12 gauge. With slugs, buck and bird shot I could accomplish most of what I need to do with a firearm.
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Probably get either an AR-15 or AR-10.
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My one firearm to do everything would be an ak-47 (Converted Saiga). Reliable and flexible and good for everything within 300 yards.
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Yup I gotta agree with 2a, AK it is..Proven.. Takes a licken and keeps on Ticken.. In fact, there's a really reliable Yugo AK47 on the classifieds.. ::) Man, if I had $600 I'd jump on that deal before it's gone.. :rofl:
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If I had to make the choice right now as I sit in front of the computer, it would be my AR. Just the most familiar with it. If I had some time to acquire some resources.....I would get a Lahti L39 20mm rifle. Just because I'd be pissed off and want to be obnoxious.
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probably a Glock 29.
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AR15/M16A2 in 5.56mm/.223 Rem. I've been using this platform for more that 30 years. I use and master what I'm issued on the job.
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Assuming you can still buy spare parts and get factory service; Id be a toss up between my SR15 or SCAR.
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(http://www.actionfigurearchive.co.uk/ekmps/shops/carpetmonster/images/terminator-2-phased-plasma-rifle-full-size-replica--811-p.jpg)
phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range
I WIN!
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kac pdw with 1 million rounds ;D
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I'm down for one of the star wars blasters!
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This thread has gone horribly wrong.
Star wars and terminator?
Haha, ::)
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I would choose a 870 because it's versatile.
Has anyone changed their mind about what they would choose or does your answer remain the same?
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This thread has gone horribly wrong.
Star wars and terminator?
Haha, ::)
Lol....awesome..I choose the harpoon from whale wats
No but I think I'd keep my Winchester model 94 .30-30 lever
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Colt Python 6" barrel in Royal Blue finish. Because:
1) It's impractical, but the dude from Walking Dead has clearly shown you can survive in a zombie apocalypse with it.
2) You're enemies will drool all over their own firearms, thus disabling them.
3) You can use it as a cudgel when you run out of bullets.
4) Just cuz.
5) It's sorta black, which makes it all ninja tactical and far more deadly.
6) It makes a loud bang which, like Biden's shotgun, will scare away any criminal.
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Lovin' the answers! Mine one gun would be an AR platform...again, goes back to:
a. what I am most experienced with &
b. what I am most accurate with
Can I cheat and attach a shotgun to the rail???
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Just one firearm.
For home defense
For self defense
For hunting
For the range
For everything
The military knew decades ago only one cartridge was close to a one size fits all. First it was the 30-06, now the 7.62. For flexibility and firepower, that means an AR10/LR308, or a M1A which is not so great indoors for home defense.
But, I suspect most of us would ignore any law stupid enough to try and limit us to one firearm, and have something else stashed away.......1911, 870,,,,,,,,,,
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Easy for me ar15!
Yea ill have to stick with 1 caliber but at least ill still have a million accessories to customize the gun to my needs
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SBR'd & suppressed AR mit der lazers & lights, M203 gernade launcher and a nick nack paddy wack give a dog a bone all the upper changes you can have at home.
oh yeah and mags mags mags.
The AR the launcher and mags.
and ammo. and that's all I need.
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If it was allowed and I could conjure up anything out of thin air, I would choose an MP5SD and lots of spare mags.
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338win mag or 375 h&h
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One firearm? I guess it would have to be my Arsenal SGL 26-61 AK 47. Easy to maintain and it keeps on firing.
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I'd love an M1 Scout.
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Thats like telling KK he only can have one femala.
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First, that would really suck.
Second... dunno. Kinda a toss up between my 308 cetme, the Marlin 336 30-30 and the marlin 1894 44 mag.
All shoot lead with no issues. The cetme has the most power and capacity, is second in reliability only to the AK47 but its really heavy... and I'm not expecting to participate in a war anytime soon. The 30-30 (shooting lead) is about as powerful, is an easy rifle to take care of and weighs almost half as much. Only carries 7, though. The 44 is by far the easiest to reload for, though, and where I live I'm not really expecting to shoot more than 100 yards....
Its like trying to choose a favorite child: they are all such individuals! :)
Tough.
I wouldn't take the shotgun, actually. Very lead and powder inefficient compared to both 30's and the 44. I can cast and load a really fun round ball load but its a LOT of lead and a lot of powder. I also can't make good shot cups, while I can make .30 cal gas checks and the 44 doesn't need anything but bullet, primer, powder and casing...
Probably the 44. 11 rounds is (more than) enough and ease of reloading counts for a lot with me. No need for gas checks and I can make a bunch of different powders work for them in the lever action. Light, too.
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AK-47
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Just one firearm? Normally I'd say AK, but I'll say AR since uppers aren't "firearms" and I can have several calibers for one lower.
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For everything?
Probably something like one of those Marble Game Getters with a .22 RF or a small .22CF like the Hornet cartridge on top and .410 or, better, 20 ga on the bottom. But with about 20" barrels.
2aHawaii said,
"My one firearm to do everything would be an ak-47 (Converted Saiga). Reliable and flexible and good for everything within 300 yards."
No, not good for small meaty animals... if you want any meat left, and that's the problem with most of the choices in this thread. Sure, you've got magazine capacity, but when the stomach growls, you only need one shot.
For Self-Defence? A .410 1/5 oz slug at 1800 f/s isn't too bad... a 20 ga slug being better. Of course, you only have two shots (upper and lower barrels), but the Bad Guy is also limited to only one gun for everything.* You just gotta practice your reloading. :)
Just throwing that out there, bearing in mind you can only have one gun for everything.
And regardless of the fact that ARs are modular, you can bet your sweet bippy that if suchlike legislation occured, you would be limited to only one upper --enforcement problems aside.
Terry, 230RN
* Presuming the BGs will follow the law.... ha.... ha...
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For everything?
Probably something like one of those Marble Game Getters with a .22 RF or a small .22CF like the Hornet cartridge on top and .410 or, better, 20 ga on the bottom. But with about 20" barrels.
2aHawaii said,
"My one firearm to do everything would be an ak-47 (Converted Saiga). Reliable and flexible and good for everything within 300 yards."
No, not good for small meaty animals... if you want any meat left, and that's the problem with most of the choices in this thread. Sure, you've got magazine capacity, but when the stomach growls, you only need one shot.
For Self-Defence? A .410 1/5 oz slug at 1800 f/s isn't too bad... a 20 ga slug being better. Of course, you only have two shots (upper and lower barrels), but the Bad Guy is also limited to only one gun for everything. You just gotta practice your reloading. :)
Just throwing that out there, bearing in mind you can only have one gun for everything.
And regardless of the fact that ARs are modular, you can bet your sweet bippy that if suchlike legislation occured, you would be limited to only one upper --enforcement problems aside.
Terry, 230RN
Well since we're getting technical, the criteria for this choice is "one firearm in one caliber.
So all the guys who chose an AR with 20 different uppers and all the guys who chose a 2 caliber gun, failed.
One firearm, one caliber, one piece of equipment, one tool.
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You're changing the rules in the middle of the game. The initial premise was one firearm. Just to be technical about it. :shaka:
Would you accept a Mossberg 500 with three barrels (rifled slug, upland shorty, and waterfowl longy --with assorted choke tubes) under your new premise? It's still one firearm and one "caliber". :popcorn:
And not to go off-topic, but this illustrates the problem with a lot of proscriptive and prescriptive laws. If you want to limit something, you'd better be specific about exactly what you mean. Otherwise you end up with loopholes.
Terry, 230RN
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HK MP5
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Ruger Redhawk 44 magnum.
Powerful and accurate
Compact enough to carry around. Can be easily concealed in a good shoulder rig.
Reduced loads for plinking or target shooting
Medium loads for home defense
Full power loads for hunting...even large game with the right loads
Shot loads for birds or pest control
Primer powered rubber or wax bullets for training kids to shoot
Sturdier than SW 29
Fairly common ammo
Can use home made lead bullets
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First, that would really suck.
Second... dunno. Kinda a toss up between my 308 cetme, the Marlin 336 30-30 and the marlin 1894 44 mag.
All shoot lead with no issues. The cetme has the most power and capacity, is second in reliability only to the AK47 but its really heavy... and I'm not expecting to participate in a war anytime soon. The 30-30 (shooting lead) is about as powerful, is an easy rifle to take care of and weighs almost half as much. Only carries 7, though. The 44 is by far the easiest to reload for, though, and where I live I'm not really expecting to shoot more than 100 yards....
Its like trying to choose a favorite child: they are all such individuals! :)
Tough.
I wouldn't take the shotgun, actually. Very lead and powder inefficient compared to both 30's and the 44. I can cast and load a really fun round ball load but its a LOT of lead and a lot of powder. I also can't make good shot cups, while I can make .30 cal gas checks and the 44 doesn't need anything but bullet, primer, powder and casing...
Probably the 44. 11 rounds is (more than) enough and ease of reloading counts for a lot with me. No need for gas checks and I can make a bunch of different powders work for them in the lever action. Light, too.
i think id reach for my marlin 94 in .44 too! like you said 10 in the tube, easier and more cost effective to reload than rifle cartidges. i can grab the gun and a .50cal ammo can full of ammo and head for the hills.
oh and 250 yards is nothing with hot ammo. winchester 240gr only needs to be clicked up one notch on that weird marlin rear sight. fiocchi ammo needs to be moved up 5 clicks though. big difference between those two. i really want to try some home made reloads with the recommended maximum amount of powder in them. i think it would hit pretty much point of aim out to 300.
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Ruger 10/22 hands down.
Reliable, cheep to shoot, accurate, you can carry lots of ammo if you needed to, quieter then other guns, easy to train others with.
While it may not be "humane" to take game with one it will work on anything up to and including medium game.
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Mossberg 500 with 3 barrels:
Rifled slug barrel
26" multi-choke barrel
18.5" barrel.
1 gun, 1 caliber, plethora of applications.
Then I'd make the wife get an XD9 ( cause I don't think she can handle a .40 )
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You're changing the rules in the middle of the game. The initial premise was one firearm. Just to be technical about it. :shaka:
Would you accept a Mossberg 500 with three barrels (rifled slug, upland shorty, and waterfowl longy --with assorted choke tubes) under your new premise? It's still one firearm and one "caliber". :popcorn:
And not to go off-topic, but this illustrates the problem with a lot of proscriptive and prescriptive laws. If you want to limit something, you'd better be specific about exactly what you mean. Otherwise you end up with loopholes.
Terry, 230RN
Re read the original post.
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I'm in the AR-15 boat. While it may not have the knockdown power to bring down large game, it can still bring down a small deer with a well placed shot, as well as a pig, again, well placed. It's been known to be a great PDW and is accurate enough for distance relevant to personal protection and small game hunting. It does incorporate "high capacity" mags and at the same time ammo isn't terribly heavy. If you consider places that allow an SBR option, it's very maneuverable in tight spaces. Great all around weapon, in my opinion. Offers a nice balance between reliability, accuracy, weight and practicality.
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Sterling. :crazy:
If it's got to be something legal in Hawaii...M1A. The .223 just isn't enough.....
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a Shotgun, one for each hand...
Does that count???
:D
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I'd take a long, hard look at something like the Ruger Gunsite Scout. Keeping in mind that Jeff Cooper laid out that design for exactly the scenario described, and that he had more gun knowledge than anyone here, I think I'd be in good shape. Detachable magazine, .308 caliber, and bolt action is about as reliable as it gets.
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no frickin' fair! as far as they concerned the lower is the gun so that's all that's registered therefore I can stick almost anything on it like a bolt action .50! either way we ain't gonna be limited to one gun ever. EVER!
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:rofl: Its official, this thread has deteriorated completely. My bad
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If only one firearm I would go with my AR-15. Good for up close and personal or to reach out and touch someone in a SHTF scenario ;D.
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I would definitely have to go with my AR-15. Not only does it have many uses (flashlight, spotting scope, blunt force object, ...), it is also so scary, most people would either retreat rapidly at the sight of it or just fall over dead from the terror caused by a bayonet mount and pistol grip!
:thumbsup:
Oh, and it's not a bad rifle for close quarters and medium range targets/game, either!!
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I would definitely have to go with my AR-15. Not only does it have many uses (flashlight, spotting scope, blunt force object, ...), it is also so scary, most people would either retreat rapidly at the sight of it or just fall over dead from the terror caused by a bayonet mount and pistol grip!
:thumbsup:
Oh, and it's not a bad rifle for close quarters and medium range targets/game, either!!
And if the bayonet mount and pistol grip did not send them cowering under the bed...its black color surely would.
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And if the bayonet mount and pistol grip did not send them cowering under the bed...its black color surely would.
I almost added that, but I was afraid some Liberal lurker here might label me racist!! :crazy:
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I'd take a long, hard look at something like the Ruger Gunsite Scout.
I would like to know a lot more about the Scout. Accuracy, action handling, etc. I know they recently came out with a slightly longer barrel version in stainless, very interesting. The one M77 I handled decades ago felt like a loose rattling piece of junk. Not a bolt gun guy, but could not believe how sloppy the bolt was as it was cycled.
Have been thinking of a detachable box magazine Remington or Savage .308, but the Scout might sway me if I found it had great long range accuracy.
Not giving up my LR308 in the meantime. That rifle does everything the .223 AR does, and with far longer range capability and knockdown power. I love shotguns, but really, past 50 yards, what good are they? I would rather take my chances with the Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Mag I should never have sold.
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SCAR 17 with the modified lower. Yes, it's too much gun for close range/small game, but if forced to choose, I'll take that over having too little gun for longer range/bigger game.
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either the 870 or 500 with 18 and 28" barrels.
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With current laws. My AR-15. Suitable for home defense, legal for hunting pig on island with the right powered loads (I dont do much hunting to begin with though), and even though ammo is pricier than it was a year ago, still cheaper than .308 so I could get my fun shooting in.
Unless of course we ever get to pass the CCW law in our favor. Then it would be a handgun, maybe a glock 19 or 30sf.
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woops....my house just got burglarized. >:D
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I'd take a 9" AR-15 in .300 BLK with a SF762 SOCOM MINI.
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I'd go for a AR10 in 308. Can be used for close quarters/urban, hunting for most game, precision shooting up to 1000 yards, modular, able to gain fire superiority, rapid reloads, lots of components to reload. Not the best in any of those, but not bad in any either.
Only downside is it's not a handgun, so you give up concealability.
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Noisy cricket!
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Noisy cricket!
Winner
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If there was new legislation passed that said that you could only own one single firearm in one caliber, which one would you choose.
Just one firearm.
For home defense
For self defense
For hunting
For the range
For everything
Barret M82A1
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I know I am late, but I would prefer to have a light saber. In order to yield such a grand weapon you have to training! LOL
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I know I am late, but I would prefer to have a light saber. In order to yield such a grand weapon you have to training! LOL
Not as clumsy as a blaster. A more elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
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Ruger 10/22
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good one
Not as clumsy as a blaster. A more elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
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If it was allowed and I could conjure up anything out of thin air, I would choose an MP5SD and lots of spare mags.
After today at the KH shooting fair, I changed my mind.
I wouldn't mind using a Kriss V also.
Now if I'm actually able to try an MP5, I might revert my choice back.
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After today at the KH shooting fair, I changed my mind.
I wouldn't mind using a Kriss V also.
If only we could get the 25rd mags for it...
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If I could choose just one it would be...
Mossy M590A1 with GRS
Slugs, Buck, Bird, and if you check out Dave at wildernessoutfitters Black Powder as well.
http://youtu.be/F85LMFWKwTo (http://youtu.be/F85LMFWKwTo)
Mike
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I say if I had to choose one I would have to go with my tavor..
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Sr-25 ec w/16" barrel
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O0
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Mosin Nagant!
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Only downside is it's not a handgun, so you give up concealability.
I suspect, if it comes down to needing just the one firearm, we will not be too worried about concealment. Can always sling it behind you, at least my Viking sling works that way.
Otherwise, I am with you, my LR-308 fits the need for me very well.
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I know I am late, but I would prefer to have a light saber. In order to yield such a grand weapon you have to training! LOL
You stand there with your light saber while someone intelligent picks you off with a head shot at 500 yards with a combat rifle.