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Title: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: one2boost on June 11, 2014, 10:50:47 AM
I stopped by the local police station yesterday to renew my long gun permit since it was supposed to expire tomorrow.  I filled out the paperwork, showed gave my driver's license and shortly after got the DL back along with the little paper with phone number, date and license referral number.  I was told to bring in this same paper and my original birth certificate.  She went on to explain it is a new procedure.  I thought that was kind of strange.

Is this the new standard procedure for long gun permit renewal?  If so, curious as to what sparked this as I recall bring it in upon my initial long gun application. 

What if one does not have the original?  Any other documents could take it's place like passport?

I skimmed through the HPD, MPD and the HRS 134, I could not find anything that states I need my birth certificate for long gun permit renewal.  Unless the HRS 134 part was changed recently as I was skimming through a copy I printed earlier this year.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: mauidog on June 11, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
Renewed mine in Feb 2014.  No documents other than old permit and drivers license required.

Were you born in the US?
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: nathanm14fan on June 11, 2014, 02:07:15 PM
Sounds to me like they lost your prior paperwork. A certified copy of your birth certificate would probably work just fine.

I have always submitted my permit renewal paperwork with my social security number.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: one2boost on June 11, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
Renewed mine in Feb 2014.  No documents other than old permit and drivers license required.

Were you born in the US?

Yup, born and raised. 


Sounds to me like they lost your prior paperwork. A certified copy of your birth certificate would probably work just fine.

I have always submitted my permit renewal paperwork with my social security number.


I stopped by the LGS to pick up some ammo and brought this up with the owner's wife.  She mentioned, it was most likely they did lose my previous paperwork.  She went on to mention, one of the forms for proof of citizenship was birth certificate, passport, and something else(I got distracted due to an incoming phone call).

I always thought, the drivers license was a plethora of information of the one pictured.  I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: lippy laroux on June 16, 2014, 03:08:02 PM
There goes Obama's chance to ever get a gun permit here.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: GreenStomper on June 16, 2014, 08:16:12 PM
:rofl:
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Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: SpeedTek on June 16, 2014, 10:48:05 PM
Mine expired June 1. I renewed it 2 weeks before.
HPD Didn't ask me for anything.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: one2boost on July 12, 2014, 08:54:49 AM
I stopped by the MPD firearms section and seen these signs posted all over the place.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: 308gunner on July 12, 2014, 09:41:06 AM
Applied for my renewal at HPD on 10 July.  No problems there & no mention of any rule changes or posted signs.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: edster48 on July 12, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
This is BS in any case.
In order to receive or renew your DL you have to show proof of citizenship, your DL should automatically be proof that you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen it should be noted on your DL.
 This law has been in affect for some time now.
How the hell do they "lose" your paperwork in any case? Did a dog eat it? Is there a ghost or some sort of "magic" that causes properly filed paperwork to just "disappear"?
Maybe they just can't figure out that whole "alphabetical order" thing. Since the "lost" paperwork contains sensitive personal info, can they be held liable if an identity thief gets their hands on it?
HPD needs to start taking this responsibility a lot more seriously, this is crap.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: s197 on July 12, 2014, 10:52:54 AM
Damn now I have to go dig for mine and probably order a copy when I can't find it.  Why can't they just take a passport?
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: dogman on July 12, 2014, 07:38:59 PM
Applied for my renewal at HPD on 10 July.  No problems there & no mention of any rule changes or posted signs.
Applied for renewal July 10th also, same story...no problem, only drivers license and old permit required.

How the hell do they "lose" your paperwork in any case? Did a dog eat it? Is there a ghost or some sort of "magic" that causes properly filed paperwork to just "disappear"?
Maybe they just can't figure out that whole "alphabetical order" thing. Since the "lost" paperwork contains sensitive personal info, can they be held liable if an identity thief gets their hands on it?
HPD needs to start taking this responsibility a lot more seriously, this is crap.
When I was applying for my long gun permit in 2012, I had my identification ready and $16.50 exact change. When I got to the window the officer asked if this is a first time application. I was going to say yes then I remembered and told him I had a permit about 30 years ago. I didn't think he would even bother checking. He looked at my drivers license and opened a card file next to him and pulled out my application from the early eighties with my picture attached. It took him about 30 seconds. He gave me the forms to fill out and told me I don't have to pay anything since it's a renewal. I guess the old system is better than the new one.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: dogman on July 12, 2014, 09:40:27 PM
I stopped by the MPD firearms section and seen these signs posted all over the place.
MPD? Is that Maui Police Department?
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: one2boost on July 12, 2014, 10:46:49 PM
MPD? Is that Maui Police Department?

Yup.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: 308gunner on July 12, 2014, 10:53:39 PM
Applied for renewal July 10th also, same story...no problem, only drivers license and old permit required.
When I was applying for my long gun permit in 2012, I had my identification ready and $16.50 exact change. When I got to the window the officer asked if this is a first time application. I was going to say yes then I remembered and told him I had a permit about 30 years ago. I didn't think he would even bother checking. He looked at my drivers license and opened a card file next to him and pulled out my application from the early eighties with my picture attached. It took him about 30 seconds. He gave me the forms to fill out and told me I don't have to pay anything since it's a renewal. I guess the old system is better than the new one.
Same exact thing happened to me when I applied in 2012 to purchase my first AR.  They pulled my records from 1984 when I brought my revolver in from Florida.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: bass monkey on July 13, 2014, 08:11:14 AM
I stopped by the MPD firearms section and seen these signs posted all over the place.

Ill go swing by the station here and see if they have the same sign posted.  Should be the same, I figure, since its the same county.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: sworbeyegib on July 14, 2014, 03:15:18 PM
The last time I renewed my drivers licensed they required my birth certificate too, which was a first for me. I don't think it is just firearms, they are cracking down on, but any sort of formal permit.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: BigBlue on July 19, 2014, 11:08:54 PM
Applied last week they just wanted to see ID. Uneventful.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: Downfall on July 19, 2014, 11:18:56 PM
Just applied on 14th for my first AR, only showed my birth of abroad and license, same stuff as for my hand gun permit.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: Zaytsev2013 on July 22, 2014, 07:04:42 PM
Went to register a rifle I picked up in Nevada last week. First time with an out of state acquisition. Had to fill out the medical paperwork, psych background and the questionnaire in addition to the usual stuff. So odd.  I got the registration that day anyway and went home with the rifle.  Still trying to figure that one out.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: GreenStomper on July 22, 2014, 08:59:38 PM
Same thing happened to me after moving  here. Took everything down to HPD and walked out with my guns and registration. (easy)
When I went to purchase a pistol, the two week wait period and  hunters ed/pistol safety course was explained....
Doesn't make much sense to take a safety course when a person already has registered firearms.
Price you pay to live in paradise.  :-\
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: mic808 on April 19, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
hello everyone. just wanted to ask. I forgot that my long gun permit expired last April 10. can I still renew my permit or they need me to fill a new paperwork?. thanks in advance
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: mic808 on April 19, 2015, 11:49:10 AM
never mind. found the answer on the other post.
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: one2boost on April 29, 2015, 09:30:29 PM
Not sure what is up with me and permits and/or registering a firearm.  I stopped by MPD and applied for a handgun permit.  Noticed a new paper attached to the medical waiver, it was something to the effect of the feds doesn't approve the medicinal use of marijuana.  I don't rock the green grass, so I didn't hesitate to whip my initials or signature(forgot, as I was in a rush to pick up my kid from school).  Anyone else noticed this and know when this medicinal marijuana paper started?  Any of the other counties have this as well? 

I still see a few signs from the original post up. 

Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: mauidog on April 29, 2015, 11:22:53 PM
Not sure what is up with me and permits and/or registering a firearm.  I stopped by MPD and applied for a handgun permit.  Noticed a new paper attached to the medical waiver, it was something to the effect of the feds doesn't approve the medicinal use of marijuana.  I don't rock the green grass, so I didn't hesitate to whip my initials or signature(forgot, as I was in a rush to pick up my kid from school).  Anyone else noticed this and know when this medicinal marijuana paper started?  Any of the other counties have this as well? 

I still see a few signs from the original post up.

I've signed that for at least 2 years in Honolulu.  I think that's been the law since around 2011, ever since more states started legalizing medical marijuana in opposition to federal law.

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/get-a-medical-marijuana-card-lose-your-second-amendment-rights (http://www.hawaiireporter.com/get-a-medical-marijuana-card-lose-your-second-amendment-rights)
Title: Re: New Long Gun Permit Renewal Procedure?
Post by: one2boost on April 30, 2015, 06:04:44 AM
I've signed that for at least 2 years in Honolulu.  I think that's been the law since around 2011, ever since more states started legalizing medical marijuana in opposition to federal law.

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/get-a-medical-marijuana-card-lose-your-second-amendment-rights (http://www.hawaiireporter.com/get-a-medical-marijuana-card-lose-your-second-amendment-rights)

Wow, that's strange. The lady at the counter also mentioned it was a new form as well and explained.  I don't remember that piece of paper the last time I applied for another gun permit around last October.