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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kingkeoni on June 12, 2011, 04:38:04 PM
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So I went to the range today and the plinking range was packed. (thanks bananaclip :D)
I had no choice but to shoot my Arsenal Saiga on the rifle side.
I shot it at 50 yards to make sure it was zeroed and then I shot the steel plates at 250 yards.
I went 15 for 15 on the square steel plate on the far right of the swinging plates.
Damn, I love this gun.
I'm sure that the TRS-25 is the reason for the accuracy but either way this gun/optic combo is incredible.
I met Steelrule today and found out that he is a fellow AK (SGL-21)owner... Sweet.
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Nice did you have a spotter calling the hits or you could see them at 250? I swear, when I shoot my AR at 250 with irons, i can't see the .223 hit the plates.
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Man those SGL-21's are popping up at a lot of shop's lately.. Everyone better grab one before they are all gone.. O0
"So I went to the range today and the plinking range was packed. (thanks bananaclip :D)" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Nice did you have a spotter calling the hits or you could see them at 250? I swear, when I shoot my AR at 250 with irons, i can't see the .223 hit the plates.
I had two spotters.
My friend that came with me with a spotting scope and the guy next to us with a high powered scope on his .308.
You got to have witnesses when you shoot that good. :thumbsup:
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I'm trying to convince the wife in letting me pick one up. For now I broke in Polish Milled and it was spot on (after dope adjustments). AK accurate enough, iron sight deadly. Killed the 440 yard steel plate. Today was a fun day, and yeah I ran into BananaClip as well.
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About a year or two ago, they Arsenal was selling the SGL-21 for a highly discounted price. I think it was right around the $500 mark. I new I should have picked up one or two then. :grrr:
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Just bought a VLTOR RE-47 adapter and EMOD for the SGL-21.
I expect to receive it in a couple of days.
I'll post pics of the "new and improved" SGL-21 once I get the stock on it.
Have I mentioned that I love this gun?
If she cooked and washed clothes she'd be perfect.
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I didn't find out about the VLTOR stock adapter until after I bought the UTG one. It looks like you are almost finished with the mods. Can you take a picture of the adapter by itself too?
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I didn't find out about the VLTOR stock adapter until after I bought the UTG one. It looks like you are almost finished with the mods. Can you take a picture of the adapter by itself too?
Of course.
I was actually thinking of doing an assembly walk through with pictures once I assemble it.
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It's heeeeeeere. :thumbsup:
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Can't wait to see how that looks...sounds awesome! 8)
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Man those SGL-21's are popping up at a lot of shop's lately.. Everyone better grab one before they are all gone.. O0
"So I went to the range today and the plinking range was packed. (thanks bananaclip :D)" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
If Arsenal would convert a few as SBRs Id buy one in a heartbeat, right now Im scouring the listings for a factory SLR-107UR SBR, dont want to do a form 1 and mess it up with my engraving on the receiver.
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Update...
Went shooting the SGL-21 today with funtimes, vooduchikn, dregs, & cougar8045 and it shot like a champ.
Accurate, easy to handle and fast.
This could be a very long relationship in the works.
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Did it rain today? My wife wanted to go. Shux....I figure the best time to go is when it rains cause no one wants to get their firearms wet...and tables are vacant... ;)
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It was a beautiful day.
I got there at 10am and there was not one single drop of rain.
You guys would have loved it.
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Did it rain today? My wife wanted to go. Shux....I figure the best time to go is when it rains cause no one wants to get their firearms wet...and tables are vacant... ;)
Not sure why people are like that lol. I use water to rinse my gun after pouring cleaning solvent on it.m With the exception of a wolf steel casing getting jammed today, never had a problem with my firearms.
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Did it rain today? My wife wanted to go. Shux....I figure the best time to go is when it rains cause no one wants to get their firearms wet...and tables are vacant... ;)
Not sure why people are like that lol. I use water to rinse my gun after pouring cleaning solvent on it.m With the exception of a wolf steel casing getting jammed today, never had a problem with my firearms.
And man that thing was STUCK in there good huh? ???
At first I thought it was one of our reloads.. :wtf:
Great day FT, Thanks for putting it together. The wife and I are still talking about it. Lets do it again soon!
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Two things were learned today.
1) shooting guns brings smiles to faces.
2) Funtimes can unload 6 rounds out of a pump shotgun in 1.2 seconds.
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Two things were learned today.
1) shooting guns brings smiles to faces.
2) Funtimes can unload 6 rounds out of a pump shotgun in 1.2 seconds.
This. And all 6 are on target!
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Did it rain today? My wife wanted to go. Shux....I figure the best time to go is when it rains cause no one wants to get their firearms wet...and tables are vacant... ;)
Not sure why people are like that lol. I use water to rinse my gun after pouring cleaning solvent on it.m With the exception of a wolf steel casing getting jammed today, never had a problem with my firearms.
And man that thing was STUCK in there good huh? ???
At first I thought it was one of our reloads.. :wtf:
Great day FT, Thanks for putting it together. The wife and I are still talking about it. Lets do it again soon!
And I thought it was operator error somehow! :'( Man, was I relieved to see that steel case come out all dented up! Thanks for letting me try out your rifle, FT!
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Not sure why people are like that lol. I use water to rinse my gun after pouring cleaning solvent on it. With the exception of a wolf steel casing getting jammed today, never had a problem with my firearms.
Sadly, I'm currently learning about and dealing with rust issues myself. I think water can be damaging but it can also be fine depending exactly what you do. I shot my blued Sig P230 (not SL version) once, couple magazines only, and a tiny drizzle of rain fell on it. I wiped it off, put it back in the foam case, took it home, cleaned it thoroughly but didn't feel like oiling it, and the slide rusted up in spots exactly where the rain drizzled on it, one side only.
My guess is that a tiny bit of moisture got sucked up into the foam when I put the pistol in the case. So don't put a firearm that has been wet into a case, even if you've wiped it dry, unless you've let it sit outside for a few hours in dry weather to completely dry out. It probably also depends on the finish of the firearm. Blued or plain carbon steel is the easiest to rust I believe.
On the other hand, I recently purchased that crappy Birchwood Casey reblueing set to try to fix my once-badly-rusted katana (I only made it much worse). The instructions it comes with basically tell you to hose the firearm down with water after every step. So water can't exactly be a firearm destroyer, you just have to be careful what you do with it and make sure the water is totally dried off before storing the firearm.
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Did it rain today? My wife wanted to go. Shux....I figure the best time to go is when it rains cause no one wants to get their firearms wet...and tables are vacant... ;)
Not sure why people are like that lol. I use water to rinse my gun after pouring cleaning solvent on it.m With the exception of a wolf steel casing getting jammed today, never had a problem with my firearms.
It can be pretty neat to shoot when it's rainy and overcast.. You can get a pretty decent idea of how much flash you will get at night........without shooting at night.
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On the other hand, I recently purchased that crappy Birchwood Casey reblueing set to try to fix my once-badly-rusted katana (I only made it much worse). The instructions it comes with basically tell you to hose the firearm down with water after every step. So water can't exactly be a firearm destroyer, you just have to be careful what you do with it and make sure the water is totally dried off before storing the firearm.
I tried to reblue one of my AKs, I would let it sit for maybe 5min after watering it down and it would be covered in surface rust. I even tried to do it out in the sun and use a hair dryer to get the water off quickly. I tried 3 or 4 times before giving up and just sprayed the gun.
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It's probably not the water that caused the rust, but the Birchwood Casey cold blueing liquid or the rust and bluing remover liquid. Both of these are nasty chemicals that can cause discoloration or rust. From what I understand of blueing, there are different kinds of blueing but most are like a specific kind of rust. They make your gun rust quickly in a sense and leave the metal blue/black afterwards.
My katana turned grayish black over half the surface after it rusted from plant sap and I cleaned off the rust. So I guess my katana is evidence of organic blueing in action. Which is why I thought the Birchwood Casey blue and rust remover liquid might take off the grayish black stains, but instead it just made more grayish black stains all over the blade.
You probably needed to wash off your AK more quickly and more thoroughly with water to stop that rust. But I have my doubts as to how well that product can work. :P Maybe it will work if you are some kind of master at applying it, but it's a dangerous and cancerous product. I regret buying it. :P
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I had a brand new sig 226 with citron finish show rust spots on the slide and 2 mags after only 2 weeks. I kept it in a pelican case with foam, I found out later that it was probably the foam holding moisture and wicking away oil from the gun. I never used the foam case again and the rust stopped.
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Some of the rust that would show up quickly.
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7198/img0564yx.jpg)
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4976/img0565s.jpg)
I wish I didnt do it, I would rather of kept the original finish it had.
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Wow that sucks.
Sorry bro, I just shed a tear. :'(
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Aren't AKs usually parkerized, not blued?
Sorry about your AK nktrnl. At least it still shoots?
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It's an AK, of course it still shoots. I cleaned it up and sprayed it with dupli-color. Btw the pictures above were after the second or third attempt. As you can see I didn't even get a chance to get all the water off before the rust would start to show up.
Good question on the park, I was under the assumption that any coating could be stripped and recoated. For all I know I could of done the procedure wrong? But I would like to think I can follow basic instructions. The original finish was real rough. I picked up two and they looked like they went through a war (they were military training rifles). I'm keeping the other in it's original condition.
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I had a brand new sig 226 with citron finish show rust spots on the slide and 2 mags after only 2 weeks. I kept it in a pelican case with foam, I found out later that it was probably the foam holding moisture and wicking away oil from the gun. I never used the foam case again and the rust stopped.
Throw some desicant into the case with your stuff.
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Don't store your firearms in foam cases. The foam is a magnet for moisture. It also gets pretty nasty if it deteriorates due to heat or sunlight.
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Never thought about dessicants thanks.