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General Topics => Preparedness and Survival => Topic started by: peregrine on August 08, 2014, 07:35:14 AM
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With the recent storm events or any other events of personal signicance
What have you learned?
Will change? Asap? As money permits? As time permits? Want to learn more about? Other or related
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I need a better way to collect and store water. Also add a battery system to my PV.
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Honda eu2000, catchment system, and above all else, a dome home. We keep dodging bullets. What happens if a category 4 or 5 come through?
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I need a better way to collect and store water. Also add a battery system to my PV.
One can never have enough 5 gal. buckets/covers. Hookup with someone in the restaurant/drive in business. They got food grade buckets. Painting contractors have tons of buckets if you look in their baseyard.
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My wife has far too much loose crap on the back lanai.
Easy to lug Honda eu2000 remains one of the best things I ever bought. Carried it out back and ran the big fridge for a good while. Never kicked out of the "eco" low speed mode.
Better management of extension cords.
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I learned that people are still dumb and that maybe we deserve to get smashed by a natural disaster to thin the population of people who are incapable of possessing basic common sense.
For instance: some people I spoke to had ZERO stored water, no first aid, no emergency energy/cooking capabilities, no emergency gas, no emergency food (aside from canned corn), no contingency plan, and when asked what they would do in the event of a serious threat, "We will just drive to so-and-so's house."
what's also gonna be fun is that all the people that overspent their budgets on propane, stoves, water, TP, ramen, canned goods, generators, etc are going to be flooding the stores trying to return everything
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Maybe a good time to buy a generator after the storm when people try to recuperate their expenses.
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what's also gonna be fun is that all the people that overspent their budgets on propane, stoves, water, TP, ramen, canned goods, generators, etc are going to be flooding the stores trying to return everything
IOW, too stupid to realize there will be more storms, or earthquakes that knock out the cheesy Oahu power grid again.
The word "Island" has many implications, being isolated is only one of them, but one that fools seem to forget when there are supermarkets all over the place.
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Routinely check and maintain supplies-
2/6 walkie/talkie radios antennaes found broken
Not enough batteries AAA for walkie/talkies
Buy more duct tape and keep a part from normal usage stuff. GF was using emergency stash for idiotic stuff day to day
Consolidate everything better. I have a small cart for events, but still had to dig for other things and I would've missed things in a rush
Develop check lists and playbook for events. Hurricanes. Tropical storms. Civil unrest. Earthquakes. Shelter in place or other. Actions for different levels. Water. Food. House duties. Security. Etc. 3min and 30min evacuation lists.
Think one of my tenets jacked my gasone butane stove. Got to buy another with a large supply of backup. Had table propane grill though.
I want to get 2 rucks and 2 hand carts and add a crate to them. Always have loaded with minimums and checklists attached of to grabs in extended evacuations.
Buy Bob water bladders. Been meaning to these past few months but haven't, loaded it on Amazon a few times but deleted do to numerous 5G bottles. Had a hard time locating all bottles.
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Maybe a good time to buy a generator after the storm when people try to recuperate their expenses.
I heard my neighbor running his Yamaha genny this morning. Was a lilttle louder than my Honda. Not sure how fuel efficient it is tho.
I've had my Honda for several years now. Yesterday was the first time I brought it out for an emergency. I use it every now and then off the back of the truck to run power tools.
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Ultimately I think I still need work on my
Consolidation of supplies. Ability to access them asap. Vs they're spread over house.
Need more supplies
More dried goods. Beans. Rice. In buckets For long term. Maintain minimum supply of sardines and tuna.
Bob. And more 5G containers consolidated not spread in several spots.
Written Action plans. Family doesn't know what to do without me and I can't know or recall all, as well as both gf and I will likely be recalled or on shift.
Rucks with carts.
Weapon and security checks as written checkpoints.
To dos
Practice cooking in similar situations.
Consolidate goods and various go bags. Have checklist for "to grab "I had cart for many of my goods but not all which took time and effort. Need ability to go in 3minutes.
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Better flash lights and better organization. Though everything was setup before the nonexistent power outage and ready to go - it could have been easier to deploy.
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Everyone has great ideas for prepping here. I noticed a lot is focused on food and weapons. I haven't seen too much on securing the home. Once the roof blows off, everything in the home is pretty much done. All the stockpiling at home won't do much good if a wall blows out. a tree crushes the house, or the roof blows off. There's a need to secure the house. Lumber...lots of lumber. Screws, nails, and rope. I favor those ratchet tie downs. You can secure something down real quick with those. I can fit about 2 dozen in a 5 gal. bucket when stored.
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Good idea on securing home.
I need more rope. I had 2rolls of utility rope.
To charge the screw gun. Wood screws. Cheap tarps.
I also wondered on security. Motion sensor battery operated LED lights were a thought for perimeter awareness. Light line and old cans w rocks in them work in the movies on non gusty days.
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Seeing all the downed trees a chainsaw, sharpener and fuel would be a good one to have in the vehicle. I already had several gloves and small folding handshake... but trying to get thru multiple trunks several feet across would be unreal.
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I have 16 security cameras outside with 24 IR led lamps each. The range on the night vision is about 25 feet. I was watching everything going on outside from my desk. The power went out at about 11pm. My UPS backup (500 va) lasted about 2 1/2 hours running a 32" LED monitor, the DVR, and all the cameras. I'll get a 1000 va to replace it and maybe use the 500 as a source for the monitor only. It may be able to last most of the night.
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I have 16 security cameras outside with 24 IR led lamps each. The range on the night vision is about 25 feet. I was watching everything going on outside from my desk. The power went out at about 11pm. My UPS backup (500 va) lasted about 2 1/2 hours running a 32" LED monitor, the DVR, and all the cameras. I'll get a 1000 va to replace it and maybe use the 500 as a source for the monitor only. It may be able to last most of the night.
Depending on who makes your UPS, sometimes you can buy a "piggy back" unit to augment the UPS battery. It's like attaching 2 more batteries to the first UPS for 3 times the up-time/capacity.
Here's an example:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0047E5B90/?tag=2ahawaii-20 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0047E5B90/?tag=2ahawaii-20)
If you have a compatible UPS already that's working, you can spend about the same for these "extension" batteries and triple the power availability.
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Thanks mauidog. I'll be looking it up when I get through all the other top priority stuff here. I used to have APC, but I had one that blew (literally) when it took a surge. The APC CS didn't get a replacement back to me for 2 weeks after the initial call. I'm using a Tripp Lite 1000va from Costco for the computer. I left it on right through the whole storm to see how it handled. Had countless surge alarms and power dropouts all the way up to the main outage.
Great idea ! Thanks again, mauidog ! :shaka:
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My yard floods in heavy rain. It's only happened once, but it's happened once. I want to get a couple of folding tables just so I can get all my floor-level storage off the ground. I managed it with some extensive shuffling and selective saving, but it would have been SO much easier just to pop up two tables!
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My yard floods in heavy rain. It's only happened once, but it's happened once.
Had a back yard that did that once, after it filled with about 6" of water, the solution was evident and a bit of trenching tool opened a nice small culvert that prevented it ever happening again.
This was in SoCal, so rain heavy enough to show the problem happened maybe every three years. Water always wants to drain somewhere, just a matter of going with the flow, so to speak............
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I had enough food and drinking water for about 1 month for the household.
but I'm always looking to improve.
ordered a waterbob for the bathtub.
and also going to look into a catchment system. and purification. always wanted to do that anyway.
also ordered some dehydrated food for backup. and could use more.
like stated above, securing the home is important.
I forgot how quickly stores can sell out of food and water in a buying frenzy.
we are just a couple steps away from going into Katrina mode.
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I am learning the usefulness of a generator. Since my power is out, charging the cell phone in the car is a PITA! Would be nice to have a generator to also run the fridge. Can't eat that stuff fast enough! Will look for ice tomorrow but might be too late for some items. Everything else is covered but a generator would make things really great about now!
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Lesson learned?
hurricane price gouging :shake:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15978.0
Surf's story outside Costco ;)
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15934.msg148842#msg148842
Be on the lookout- stolen generator -45lima :wtf:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15973.0
Big Island's only Red Cross Emergency Truck stolen :wtf:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15985.0
"S" hasn't even "HTF" yet and we see this happening already. Where is the aloha?
Hawaii has a serious property crime problem during non-SHTF conditions and this will only get worse if SHTF did occur.
Hawaii needs to decriminalize the use of force to protect oneself and one's property against looters especially when there is no rule of law.
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I am learning the usefulness of a generator. Since my power is out, charging the cell phone in the car is a PITA! Would be nice to have a generator to also run the fridge. Can't eat that stuff fast enough! Will look for ice tomorrow but might be too late for some items. Everything else is covered but a generator would make things really great about now!
I'll keep an eye out for you. There were several on Craigslist on Wednesday, but my guess is that they were gone that day. There may be some coming up for sale on there too. A lot of people bought them earlier in the week, but now want to get their money back. Kind of like how it's going with them after buying cases of water and trying to take them back to the store.
Here's a few places you can check on Saturday:
Steve's Honda
Home Depot
White Cap
Garden Exchange
Del's
Lowe's (since Kona had no real outages, they may still have some)
Good luck, I'll keep in touch. :shaka:
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Next time I'll check in with the inlaws earlier, they end up waiting and we're the ones standing in line at the stores getting water.
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I am learning the usefulness of a generator. Since my power is out, charging the cell phone in the car is a PITA! Would be nice to have a generator to also run the fridge. Can't eat that stuff fast enough! Will look for ice tomorrow but might be too late for some items. Everything else is covered but a generator would make things really great about now!
If it is too late for your food. maybe cut your losses and toss it.
Wait a bit for the impulse buyers to fade and stocks to come back in, and buy a Honda eu2000 (my humble recommendation) as an easy one person luggable, quiet, fuel sipping beast. It easily runs a very large fridge and a small microwave. Power is said to be clean enough (inverter) to run electronics without damage, but that is something I care little about.
If you are feeling flush, the eu2000 can be paralleled with another one for 4kW. Possibly a pricey way to get that much power, but nice to know if you needed it. It is very quiet when running in its "eco" mode, just kicking into high when the load requires it.
Had mine for 5-6 years now and never regretted buying it yet. Sort of like a home defense shotgun you might say.
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Getting a generator with fuel, more 5 gal bottle,clean 55 gal drums, bigger gas stove, sleeping bag or blow up beds, mre's. But I only prepping for a few short weeks, I have 2 weeks of food always, but I still have family and friends that wasnt ready at all, only to have them call me or come over, without nothing! Even my parents and wife not taking it serious enough, Shtf event happens I not looking forward too, 30 ppl to take care of? I am happy to help, but my first rule in survival is to take care of my wife and I first, everything comes after.
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If u got a cooler and frozen foods, bag them add rock salt on it, the salt will drop the temperature lower, also thinking of getting a food dehydrator, dry strips of meats and fish, even fruits can hold if done right
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If u got a cooler and frozen foods, bag them add rock salt on it, the salt will drop the temperature lower, also thinking of getting a food dehydrator, dry strips of meats and fish, even fruits can hold if done right
There's an inverse relationship between temperature and duration there. You can make it colder, but it won't last as long. Also, although dehydrators are nifty, you can dry those things in your oven. It takes more attention, but works every bit as effectively.
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If u got a cooler and frozen foods, bag them add rock salt on it, the salt will drop the temperature lower, also thinking of getting a food dehydrator, dry strips of meats and fish, even fruits can hold if done right
Try out what TomG mentions. I dehydrate in my convection oven. It is a double convection oven so it can hold a lot. The convection oven works better as it is basically the same deal as a dehydrator, but a regular oven will work, just takes longer. Oven temps need to be able to be in the 140*-175* range. If the oven is a bit hot, leave it ajar. I use baking sheets with cookie cooling racks on them. Lets the air circulate nicely around everything.
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Try out what TomG mentions. I dehydrate in my convection oven. It is a double convection oven so it can hold a lot. The convection oven works better as it is basically the same deal as a dehydrator, but a regular oven will work, just takes longer. Oven temps need to be able to be in the 140*-175* range. If the oven is a bit hot, leave it ajar. I use baking sheets with cookie cooling racks on them. Lets the air circulate nicely around everything.
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I dunno about leaving the door ajar to lower the temp.
Wouldn't the thermostat just fire more often and bring the temp back up?
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I have a dry box made out of redwood. When I lived in South Kohala, I used it a lot to mostly dry fish. I'd just set it on the pahoehoe for about 4 hours, then I had about 10 lbs. of dried fish or meat. Nowadays, I wait for few really good hot days and just set it on the roof of the garage. Just got to make sure to keep it away from the cats and mongoose.
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Google for DIY solar dehydrator.
Is a hassle to make but it can work if you got sunlight hitting the box.
Oven is expensive to run for hours and even a dehydrator draws high wattage for the heating coil (I have an Excalibur).
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Cost to build a dry box: $30
Cost for fish/ meat (if not caught on your own): $30
Cost to dry:$0
Taste of dried akule and tako: priceless
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Has anyone bought the portable 2000watt, sine generator from COSTCO with the built-in inverter and used it? it was priced at $599.99
Shibby95
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I dunno about leaving the door ajar to lower the temp.
Wouldn't the thermostat just fire more often and bring the temp back up?
Nope. It will try, but with the door ajar, a typical oven just does not have the horsepower to bring your entire kitchen to 200 degrees.
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To all my friends.
Prepping for a disaster (of ANY kind) is not done when you receive notice of impending doom.
It is a daily occurrence and way of life.
From gardening to shopping, maintenance to storage, it is a process that takes a steady resolve.
When you shop, buy that extra pack of toilet paper, Spam , bleach or water for long term storage.
Commit to spending a set amount, even $10.00 a week to beef up your Prep supplies.
Buy only what you already consume so it can be rotated out.
Same thing with gas. Buy a 5 gal or 2 .Rotate them into your vehicle and fill them back up.
It’s not like it’s going to get any cheaper and you won‘t be part of the maddening crowd scrambling around at the last moment only to find higher prices or worse yet, empty shelves! :shake:
We’ve been doing this for years and it’s amazing how much MONEY we have SAVED. :worship:
Yes I know, “Where am I supposed to put all of this stuff ?”.
Get creative. Clear out that junk closet, put rafters in your parking overhang, loose the bed frame and replace it with boxes of canned goods or milk crates filled with your goodies.
The chance of a hurricane hitting our east facing oceanfront home did not make us skip a beat in our daily lives.
We were already prepared.
We're always prepared.
“In any survival situation, you should try to keep your friends alive as long as possible. They stay fresh longer that way.” :wave:
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I had nearly a full tank of gas in my car. I figure I'd top it off since there was no line and the initial rush was done. Now my car is giving me problems. I think I got some bad or dirty gas. Just something to think about.
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During the mad rush last week, I was helping others (my business clients) prepare their businesses for the worst. I wasn't worried for myself or my family since my family was good to go (year-round and daily).
Something to think about... Being there for my business clients during the madness was good business relations for me.
A prepper is not "crazy" and instead is an asset to a select few during these times.
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I'll keep an eye out for you. There were several on Craigslist on Wednesday, but my guess is that they were gone that day. There may be some coming up for sale on there too. A lot of people bought them earlier in the week, but now want to get their money back. Kind of like how it's going with them after buying cases of water and trying to take them back to the store.
Here's a few places you can check on Saturday:
Steve's Honda
Home Depot
White Cap
Garden Exchange
Del's
Lowe's (since Kona had no real outages, they may still have some)
Good luck, I'll keep in touch. :shaka:
Made the rounds in Hilo but there is not a one anywhere. Too bad. I see lots of tree cutters out the past few days but no signs of the big HELCO trucks that replace poles. Plus, I would imagine they don't have the number of poles they need anyway and will have to wait for some to come in from Oahu. Unfortunately for me, I live way down at the end of the line, near the ocean. So I am thinking we are going to be the last ones to see electricity. Planning for 2-3 weeks of cold showers and living out of an icebox (providing we are able to get ice as it is in very short supply). Could be a lot worse off though. You should see the lines of people waiting for the water, tarps and ice. We should be fine without any of those things so we are staying away from the handouts so the the people that really need them might get them. I still consider us extremely lucky based on some of the things I have seen in the neighborhood. Lucky for us, we are prepared and we made it through with very little damage. Lots of trees fell away from our house instead of towards. :thumbsup:
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Lessons learned:
It takes 3 times as long to pack all the supplies and equipment back up and store them away as it took to bring them out when the storm was coming.
Most of the traffic on the road when the sun came up the morning after the storm were people driving around taking pictures and videos of damaged property.
Don't trust those people.
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I dunno about leaving the door ajar to lower the temp.
Wouldn't the thermostat just fire more often and bring the temp back up?
At least in the couple of ovens that I have used, current oven included, the temp does not get jacked up like leaving the oven open when broiling. The low temp and the open oven door is somewhat like inducing a convection situation which helps the process.
Dehydrator is the way to go.
Check out babelfish5 on YouTube for some amazing recipes.
I have been tempted several times to get an Excaliber since it is an Amazon Prime item, however a dehydrator is basically a low temp convection oven with a timer. My oven accomplishes the exact same goal without having a counter top unit and the dual oven fits more than a 9 tray Excaliber. Works excellent. Actually doing some carne asada jerky in a little bit. :)
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Always keep the spare propane tank full.
Need to look for solar recharger for phone and laptop
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Always keep the spare propane tank full.
Need to look for solar recharger for phone and laptop
Have you checked out GoalZero which shows up at Costco from time to time?
http://www.goalzero.com/mid-size (http://www.goalzero.com/mid-size)
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BUD , there are 3 generators for sale on Craigslist. One in your area. Check your PM.
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Have you checked out GoalZero which shows up at Costco from time to time?
http://www.goalzero.com/mid-size (http://www.goalzero.com/mid-size)
thanks.
I'll have to check that out
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http://battery1234.com (http://battery1234.com)
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Something else I learned. How frieakin handy would it be to have the Superferry? We could already have water, ice, generators, HELCO people and equipment here. Could have been here days ago in fact. All of those tree huggers that killed the ferry can come stay at my house all month with no power and then see if they might think a little different. Lucky for me I am not on rainwater catchment so I have water. Some are not so lucky. Whatever geniuses killed the superferry were extremely selfish and short sighted. :shaka:
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thanks.
I'll have to check that out
You could also build your own solar generator. It's a lot cheaper that way and not too difficult to do. I actually built one just a week before Iselle.
Here's a link to a very basic one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ecGY3z558I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ecGY3z558I)
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HECO had trucks shipped over from Oahu and transformers were flown in and are sitting at Hawaiian Cargo. The damage was anticipated before the storm hit. More utility poles are on the way too. I've heard of some mainland utility crews coming over. The main problem I think is they can't get into a lot of areas yet until the road crews carve the way for them. Helicopters were already looking at where they need to get to.
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On Generators, saws, etc.
Fuel.
Use and buy ethanol free petrol. The gas station in Waipio gentry and a few other places sell it. If at all possible do not store ethanol fuel in your equipment. They damage them over time. Ethanol based fuel goes bad in short order as well. Also consider stabilizers for the fuel.
Another solid point if you must run your equipment if there is an on valve for fuel would be considering to run them to empty so there is no fuel in lines and system.
I am not a saw or generator or small engine expert. This is just from experience of running these tools almost daily for the past 16years. Read your manuals and consult a mechanic if needed.
Do regular function checks. With hurricane season being a known and a heads up on disasters like hurricanes and tsunamis a pre incident function test would be a good idea.
Good luck people
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I had nearly a full tank of gas in my car. I figure I'd top it off since there was no line and the initial rush was done. Now my car is giving me problems. I think I got some bad or dirty gas. Just something to think about.
confirmed bad gas caused an injector to stick open. Thankfully some seafoam, lots of smoke, and a heavy foot cleared to blockage. Ethanol required in gasoline is the biggest crap ever forced onto petrol users. :grrr:
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I read a blog by this guy who survived Katrina (he fled to Texas well before things got really bad) and he covered something everyone here missed: paperwork. Have copies of EVERYTHING. Insurance papers, home and auto stuff, identifications, current resumes, etc. He wrote about getting to Texas and finding the perfect job to work while waiting for things to blow over, but not getting hired because he lacked credentials. He also mentions dealing with FEMA, why you should avoid shelters unless absolutely necessary for survival, and having papers to ID your kids as well (if a rescue chopper can only take one of you, and it's you and your kid, you'll send your kid first-- but does he have ID, medical info, etc?). It's fun to think about guns, ammo, your zombie mobile, and supplies, but that "boring" stuff is important too. If we had to evacuate my apartment, sure, I could survive for a month or two totally on our own-- but I didn't have anything on me to prove that I owned my apartment, which car was mine, that my guns were legally mine, etc. Hell, if I went missing and my g/f didn't have her ipod or cellphone, there'd be no pic for a "missing persons" poster...
http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/blogs/klessons/ (http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/blogs/klessons/)
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On Generators, saws, etc.
Fuel.
Use and buy ethanol free petrol. The gas station in Waipio gentry and a few other places sell it. If at all possible do not store ethanol fuel in your equipment. They damage them over time. Ethanol based fuel goes bad in short order as well. Also consider stabilizers for the fuel.
Another solid point if you must run your equipment if there is an on valve for fuel would be considering to run them to empty so there is no fuel in lines and system.
I am not a saw or generator or small engine expert. This is just from experience of running these tools almost daily for the past 16years. Read your manuals and consult a mechanic if needed.
Do regular function checks. With hurricane season being a known and a heads up on disasters like hurricanes and tsunamis a pre incident function test would be a good idea.
Good luck people
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Bump this message because this is absolutely true.
A friend told me about seeking out all the e0 gas stations a few years ago. They are few and far between, but they're out there.
I just noticed a sign at 76 station in moiliili saying they have e0 now.
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Next fuel run for the generators will get the E-free stuff down by the harbor. The Aloha station on Queen K has it. Use Sta-bil in the gas regardless.
Rather than draining the carb on my Honda, I try to remember to start and run the thing every month or so. Just moved it to a more convenient loacation so may be more diligent. Sure starts easier if it has been run recently.
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Next fuel run for the generators will get the E-free stuff down by the harbor. The Aloha station on Queen K has it. Use Sta-bil in the gas regardless.
Rather than draining the carb on my Honda, I try to remember to start and run the thing every month or so. Just moved it to a more convenient loacation so may be more diligent. Sure starts easier if it has been run recently.
next storm 3000 miles off hilo
following similar path at this point...
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I read a blog by this guy who survived Katrina (he fled to Texas well before things got really bad) and he covered something everyone here missed: paperwork. Have copies of EVERYTHING. Insurance papers, home and auto stuff, identifications, current resumes, etc. He wrote about getting to Texas and finding the perfect job to work while waiting for things to blow over, but not getting hired because he lacked credentials. He also mentions dealing with FEMA, why you should avoid shelters unless absolutely necessary for survival, and having papers to ID your kids as well (if a rescue chopper can only take one of you, and it's you and your kid, you'll send your kid first-- but does he have ID, medical info, etc?). It's fun to think about guns, ammo, your zombie mobile, and supplies, but that "boring" stuff is important too. If we had to evacuate my apartment, sure, I could survive for a month or two totally on our own-- but I didn't have anything on me to prove that I owned my apartment, which car was mine, that my guns were legally mine, etc. Hell, if I went missing and my g/f didn't have her ipod or cellphone, there'd be no pic for a "missing persons" poster...
http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/blogs/klessons/ (http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/blogs/klessons/)
:thumbsup:
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On paperwork.
Memory sticks and hard drives are good for many. Including old memories.
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Next fuel run for the generators will get the E-free stuff down by the harbor. The Aloha station on Queen K has it. Use Sta-bil in the gas regardless.
Rather than draining the carb on my Honda, I try to remember to start and run the thing every month or so. Just moved it to a more convenient loacation so may be more diligent. Sure starts easier if it has been run recently.
grab a couple cans of starter spray too. very helpful. (someday will get a bigger one with e-start!) I also need to keep a spare headlamp nearby the gen, always forget to do that. a backup to the backup to the backup :D
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I hate that bacon, even when frozen solid, just doesn't keep longer than a few months. While I was doing LIFO that meant a whole stack underneath was no good. I threw out like 30 lbs. of it :( all bought on the cheap from 2011. I think most of my pancake mix will be tossed too, got lazy didn't seal properly.
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Why aren't clear polycarbonate panels for windows available here for hurricane prep? There's only the corrugated stuff but that's for roofs! Then we all could simply install anchors to window frames and when the time comes, wingnut the panels on quick and still have light in the house and be able to see out. much easier for most vs. heavy plywood, which probably gonna' get eaten by termites while in storage.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8cgwQ-_A3uY/maxresdefault.jpg (http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8cgwQ-_A3uY/maxresdefault.jpg)
#2, through this last storm warning I learned about garage door braces but of course ZERO available here in the whole state. why? the garage door is the biggest opening on your house and also the flimsiest. in direct hit it can be blown open very easily. they run about $158 from Lowes + shipping. good insurance IMO, even when not storm conditions, check it out.
http://knoji.com/images/user/garage-door-failed.jpg (http://knoji.com/images/user/garage-door-failed.jpg)
http://www.lowes.com/pd_247967-64840-180_4294763916__?productId=3041386&cm_sp=Millwork-_-Hurricane (http://www.lowes.com/pd_247967-64840-180_4294763916__?productId=3041386&cm_sp=Millwork-_-Hurricane)|LR-_-Merch|Prep_GDO_Brace
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Those garage door braces are an excellent idea. My door would definitely break like the picture if anything larger than a CAT 3 came through. I think i'm gonna rig up something like that with brackets and 2x4's. Thanks for the link :thumbsup:
Why aren't clear polycarbonate panels for windows available here for hurricane prep? There's only the corrugated stuff but that's for roofs! Then we all could simply install anchors to window frames and when the time comes, wingnut the panels on quick and still have light in the house and be able to see out. much easier for most vs. heavy plywood, which probably gonna' get eaten by termites while in storage.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8cgwQ-_A3uY/maxresdefault.jpg (http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8cgwQ-_A3uY/maxresdefault.jpg)
#2, through this last storm warning I learned about garage door braces but of course ZERO available here in the whole state. why? the garage door is the biggest opening on your house and also the flimsiest. in direct hit it can be blown open very easily. they run about $158 from Lowes + shipping. good insurance IMO, even when not storm conditions, check it out.
http://knoji.com/images/user/garage-door-failed.jpg (http://knoji.com/images/user/garage-door-failed.jpg)
http://www.lowes.com/pd_247967-64840-180_4294763916__?productId=3041386&cm_sp=Millwork-_-Hurricane (http://www.lowes.com/pd_247967-64840-180_4294763916__?productId=3041386&cm_sp=Millwork-_-Hurricane)|LR-_-Merch|Prep_GDO_Brace
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Those garage door braces are an excellent idea. My door would definitely break like the picture if anything larger than a CAT 3 came through. I think i'm gonna rig up something like that with brackets and 2x4's. Thanks for the link :thumbsup:
interesting
nothing on amazon like that brace
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Those garage door braces are an excellent idea. My door would definitely break like the picture if anything larger than a CAT 3 came through. I think i'm gonna rig up something like that with brackets and 2x4's. Thanks for the link :thumbsup:
Great idea. You think you could post your after pics. I too am thinking of this.
Maybe one could have some pre drilled holes in the floor for the floor bracket...then if a strong hurricane is inbound one could screw the plate in and slide the 2x4 or 4x4 in place.
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Exactly what I was thinking about the pre drilled holes in your garage thing...everything stored, and then all sleeves and plates can be installed within minutes.
Yea i will share. I'm definitely gonna do it. Might not post in this specific thread however.
Great idea. You think you could post your after pics. I too am thinking of this.
Maybe one could have some pre drilled holes in the floor for the floor bracket...then if a strong hurricane is inbound one could screw the plate in and slide the 2x4 or 4x4 in place.
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right on right on. I was thinking tapcons but then the studs sticking out when not in use so need alternative ideas. maybe just drill the holes for concrete bolts and rely on friction fit alone so can remove after? still better than nothing and not want to overbuild or overthink this bracing. plus time is ticking with karina out there doing the dance. will she come in to do the tango with Madame Pele
first pic when binged her name
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ek0U7O_4TJY/Tbl00RqBeJI/AAAAAAAAAFU/LXaPj_CtCBA/s1600/karina-kapoor-hot.jpg)
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joke jhoke! how can delete posts
haha
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Why aren't clear polycarbonate panels for windows available here for hurricane prep? There's only the corrugated stuff but that's for roofs! Then we all could simply install anchors to window frames and when the time comes, wingnut the panels on quick and still have light in the house and be able to see out. much easier for most vs. heavy plywood, which probably gonna' get eaten by termites while in storage.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8cgwQ-_A3uY/maxresdefault.jpg (http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8cgwQ-_A3uY/maxresdefault.jpg)
#2, through this last storm warning I learned about garage door braces but of course ZERO available here in the whole state. why? the garage door is the biggest opening on your house and also the flimsiest. in direct hit it can be blown open very easily. they run about $158 from Lowes + shipping. good insurance IMO, even when not storm conditions, check it out.
http://knoji.com/images/user/garage-door-failed.jpg (http://knoji.com/images/user/garage-door-failed.jpg)
http://www.lowes.com/pd_247967-64840-180_4294763916__?productId=3041386&cm_sp=Millwork-_-Hurricane (http://www.lowes.com/pd_247967-64840-180_4294763916__?productId=3041386&cm_sp=Millwork-_-Hurricane)|LR-_-Merch|Prep_GDO_Brace
'78, did you try calling takase door service or any other garage door company?
if they don't carry them, maybe we could get a group buy together
i'd be in for that
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'78, did you try calling takase door service or any other garage door company?
if they don't carry them, maybe we could get a group buy together
i'd be in for that
just ordered from Lowes, is sitting in garage! group buy is excellent idea if can pull it off. intarwebs should have DIY alternatives?
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just ordered from Lowes, is sitting in garage! group buy is excellent idea if can pull it off. intarwebs should have DIY alternatives?
how much was it including shipping?
i'll try and stop by takase tomorrow
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just ordered from Lowes, is sitting in garage! group buy is excellent idea if can pull it off. intarwebs should have DIY alternatives?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/interior/8-ways-to-protect-your-home-against-tornadoes-and-hurricanes-fortify-garage-door#slide-3 (http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/interior/8-ways-to-protect-your-home-against-tornadoes-and-hurricanes-fortify-garage-door#slide-3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cdahI8D0B8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cdahI8D0B8)
http://www.bobvila.com/articles/383-storm-proof-your-garage-doors/#.U-1MpipXvAM (http://www.bobvila.com/articles/383-storm-proof-your-garage-doors/#.U-1MpipXvAM)
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macsak, can't find the darn receipt but s/h was minimal. advantage of big box store. couldn't avoid local tax though
free shipping. order total was only $165.44! but I only got one. double door should have 2 in a perfect world.
another edit: yeah right on great vid! see, how come nobody tells us this before right? in other hurricane states these are common knowledge.
is like how deny our rights to keep us victims.
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macsak, can't find the darn receipt but s/h was minimal. advantage of big box store. couldn't avoid local tax though
free shipping. order total was only $165.44! but I only got one. double door should have 2 in a perfect world.
another edit: yeah right on great vid! see, how come nobody tells us this before right? in other hurricane states these are common knowledge.
is like how deny our rights to keep us victims.
yeah, thanks
awesome for free shipping
i had it in my cart and it said free shipping, but i didn't want to complete transaction to confirm
i found the same thing on ebay for a few bucks less, but i think i would go with lowe's, because if you are missing parts when it gets delivered, you can always complain at the store
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garage-Door-Brace-CAT5-Hurricane-high-winds-protection-from-flying-debris-/111169470853?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e2378185 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garage-Door-Brace-CAT5-Hurricane-high-winds-protection-from-flying-debris-/111169470853?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e2378185)
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I hate that bacon, even when frozen solid, just doesn't keep longer than a few months. While I was doing LIFO that meant a whole stack underneath was no good. I threw out like 30 lbs. of it :( all bought on the cheap from 2011. I think most of my pancake mix will be tossed too, got lazy didn't seal properly.
Anything kept in a frost-free freezer at appropriate temperature will last indefinitely from a food safety standpoint, it just starts to lose flavour/texture. Chest (non-FF) freezers are best for long term frozen food storage.
I've eaten months old frozen bacon and it was fine honestly. I mean it's still.. BACON!!
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Anything kept in a frost-free freezer at appropriate temperature will last indefinitely from a food safety standpoint, it just starts to lose flavour/texture. Chest (non-FF) freezers are best for long term frozen food storage.
I've eaten months old frozen bacon and it was fine honestly. I mean it's still.. BACON!!
Me too but these were 3 almost 4 years old. Threw out some frozen sausage too. The fatty meats don't keep well for super long periods. I got canned bacon need to rotate in soon or just toss and replace. those more like novelties, most come from Yoders and relabeled.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_will_meat_last_in_the_freezer (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_will_meat_last_in_the_freezer)
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For the garage door brace, get a couple of these 4x4 post mounting brackets.
1) Drill hole in floor for the steel post on plate to fit into.
2a) Drill hole above door into garage header line with lower post hole to mount second bracket quickly. This bracket would have threaded rod (with nut and washer installed from outside) for mounting so it could be removed if it interferes with G-door opening.
2b) If top mount does not interfere with door opening, it can be of the flat bottom based type shown and permanently mounted with out drilling hole mentioned above.
Mount lower floor bracket with post to 4x4, drop in hole so top of 4x4 slides into upper bracket.
Drill 1/4"-1/2" hole through upper bracket through 4x4.
place 4"-6" 1/4"-1/2" bolt through top bracket and 4x4 (where nails are shown) and Voila !
Hole in garage floor does not affect anything rolling over it.
Top bracket is mounted in place or installed in minutes.
4x4 brace installed in seconds !
Maybe $20 including 4x4
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don't forget L brackets to attach door to the post / brace - the whole point of this :)
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After done prepping for the last storm, found this large crack in my 5 gal gas can. I guess the weak spot is the seam. Use and check your gear guys...
Pic attached
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After done prepping for the last storm, found this large crack in my 5 gal gas can. I guess the weak spot is the seam. Use and check your gear guys...
Pic attached
I don't see the big surprise. Gas coming from a crack is a normal thing!
>:D