2aHawaii
General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: suka on September 17, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
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What’s happening?
1. ATF ruled that a trust is not a person as defined by USC 921(a) and the Gun Control Act (GCA).
2. Since ATF holds that an unincorporated trust is not a “person” under the GCA,
the prohibition on the transfer or possession of machineguns as defined by USC 921(a)(1) and USC 922(o) cannot apply to unincorporated trusts.
3. Numerous Trustees filed Form 1 applications to build new MG
4. ATF approved and sent out stamps!
5. On or around 9/10/14, ATF began demanding that they be returned, or eForms, changed from Approved to Disapproved.
6. Attorneys are working on it now...
7. Take my $200 !!!!! :worship:
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What’s happening?
1. ATF ruled that a trust is not a person as defined by USC 921(a) and the Gun Control Act (GCA).
2. Since ATF holds that an unincorporated trust is not a “person” under the GCA,
the prohibition on the transfer or possession of machineguns as defined by USC 921(a)(1) and USC 922(o) cannot apply to unincorporated trusts.
3. Numerous Trustees filed Form 1 applications to build new MG
4. ATF approved and sent out stamps!
5. On or around 9/10/14, ATF began demanding that they be returned, or eForms, changed from Approved to Disapproved.
6. Attorneys are working on it now...
7. Take my $200 !!!!! :worship:
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Can they just deny knowledge that the ATF is demanding a return?
I am not fully following the repercussions of this story though. Can you summarize?
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Civilian can manufacture new machine guns since 1986 when Reagan signed the Hughes Amendment it into law.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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I had to search out more info: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/09/foghorn/atf-may-just-approved-first-new-civilian-machine-gun-28-years/ (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/09/foghorn/atf-may-just-approved-first-new-civilian-machine-gun-28-years/)
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I already have plans to get a trust going. This would also bypass getting NFA item in Hawaii without getting. signature from HPD Kealoha.
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Seems Hawaii is not a big fan of NFA weapons.
But that are so fun! Who cares only 2 out of a 100 hits its target. :D
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Seems Hawaii is not a big fan of NFA weapons.
But that are so fun! Who cares only 2 out of a 100 hits its target. :D
I think it all depends....
on how many targets you need to shoot at once! :rofl:
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Suka,
In light of your other discussion on the 10mag loophole for members of certain organizations, I take it that if this issue holds then people of those organizations would be able to build and own MG's/SBR/etc, but would only be able to use them for organization related events?
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Seems Hawaii is not a big fan of NFA weapons.
But that are so fun! Who cares only 2 out of a 100 hits its target. :D
How are you going to afford all that ammo? ???
I'm kidding. . . Well, mostly kidding. I've shot F/A some before and while fun, I keep thinking how expensive it would be for me to own one. Maybe that's just what I tell myself from getting too jealous of my buddies in places like AK and AZ that can own such things. :(
Seems like you've been putting a lot of research into both local and federal regulations. I have to deal with different federal regs for work and everytime I read through them, I'm like :crazy: