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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Paul96734 on October 25, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
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Looking to order my first Garand, but I am conflicted on getting a Service or Special Grade rifle. My main concern is potential pitting on the receiver in Hawaii's environment. Does anyone know if the CMP Special receivers are of a better quality, or are the improvements just in the new stock and barell? Long term plan is to make it into a .308 rifle, but I am open to using .30-06 in the beginning if the Service Grade rifles are the route to initially build upon.
Thank you in advance.
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The special grades aren't any more resistant to pitting than the other grades, just in better shape. They have the same finish as the originals, albeit more recently applied.
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From what I understand the receiver is reparked and theycan be one for you in .308
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Looking to order my first Garand, but I am conflicted on getting a Service or Special Grade rifle. My main concern is potential pitting on the receiver in Hawaii's environment. Does anyone know if the CMP Special receivers are of a better quality, or are the improvements just in the new stock and barell? Long term plan is to make it into a .308 rifle, but I am open to using .30-06 in the beginning if the Service Grade rifles are the route to initially build upon.
Thank you in advance.
The CMP sells a .308 Garand. http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/m1garand.htm. (http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/m1garand.htm.) As long as you keep it maintained and oiled, I don't think there would be a difference as far as pitting.
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The CMP sells a .308 Garand. http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/m1garand.htm. (http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/m1garand.htm.) As long as you keep it maintained and oiled, I don't think there would be a difference as far as pitting.
I did initially see the .308 available, I was just wondering if the extra 1/3 of the cost of a Service grade was just found in the new barrel and stock.
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I have seen all the different grades at CMP North Store at Camp Perry.The Service grades are pretty good, but you are taking a chance that you will get a lemon.
The Special grades are completely rebuilt with new barrels and wood.
If you are looking to do serious shooting, then go for the Special.
If you want a nostalgic plinker, go for the Service
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My service grade HRA had a throat gauge and bore gauge of "2", and the wood looked good, just a few small nicks, nothing major.(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1380265_623471571028883_1019834289_n.jpg?oh=c9b8446da57e25503220fb61f772e793&oe=54E3C251)
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I have seen all the different grades at CMP North Store at Camp Perry.The Service grades are pretty good, but you are taking a chance that you will get a lemon.
The Special grades are completely rebuilt with new barrels and wood.
If you are looking to do serious shooting, then go for the Special.
If you want a nostalgic plinker, go for the Service
I am begining to lean towards the Special in .308 with an adjustable gas plug. I would prefer a totally rebuilt rifle with a standardized round that I can buy/reload across other firearm platforms.
Worse comes to worse, I can buy a Service grade .30-06 later on.
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I just order my special in .30-06 along with two cans of the Greek ball ammo.
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I just order my special in .30-06 along with two cans of the Greek ball ammo.
Great, but how long will that supply last?
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Great, but how long will that supply last?
Supposedly CMP will start selling sealed spam cans of Greek HXP M2 once the loose stuff is sold out. HXP brass is excellent for reloading.
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I bought 2 spam cans earlier this year. They sold out quickly.
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Supposedly CMP will start selling sealed spam cans of Greek HXP M2 once the loose stuff is sold out. HXP brass is excellent for reloading.
Anyone offering classes on how to reload? lol
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Anyone offering classes on how to reload? lol
Maybe X-Ring? https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=16543.0
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Maybe X-Ring? https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=16543.0
I would love to learn how to reload for this rifle and my 54R.
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My m1 CMP special is on it way. I'm getting it monday. I'm actually surprised how quickly my order was processed. They got my order Wednesday processed on Thursday and shipped today.
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I saw spam cans for sale on the CMP Estore.
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be careful when choosing powder and charge weight.
The Garand's oprod can bend if the burning rate of the powder is too slow or fast
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The spam cans are listed in estore for 150.00 plus 30.00 shipping to hawaii.
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be careful when choosing powder and charge weight.
The Garand's oprod can bend if the burning rate of the powder is too slow or fast
Very true for both cartridges. A gas plug might be the best fall back safety measure.
I am noticing that more re-loadable .30-06 brass seems to be available online now than .308. Possibly because the .30-06 is now more of a "hunting" round, while the .308 is being bought up by the AR-10 community?
A few spam cans of re-loadable Greek .30-06 seems like a good deal now.
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Very true for both cartridges. A gas plug might be the best fall back safety measure.
I am noticing that more re-loadable .30-06 brass seems to be available online now than .308. Possibly because the .30-06 is now more of a "hunting" round, while the .308 is being bought up by the AR-10 community?
A few spam cans of re-loadable Greek .30-06 seems like a good deal now.
lots of factors about the avail of 3006 brass. I have a lot of it since shooting my Garand is expensive and tiring..though it is so much fun than shooting anything else I have. FYI, some of the Greek ammo runs a bit hotter than the issued old LC 3006. I too have an adj. gas plug. When I first got my Garand I made a mistake by buying some 3006 ammo from Sports Authority (little too hot for a Garand). Then I shot some Korean ammo with the corrosive primers and did not clean my barrel thoroughly. I then got it refinished & rebarreled at DGR.
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lots of factors about the avail of 3006 brass. I have a lot of it since shooting my Garand is expensive and tiring..though it is so much fun than shooting anything else I have. FYI, some of the Greek ammo runs a bit hotter than the issued old LC 3006. I too have an adj. gas plug. When I first got my Garand I made a mistake by buying some 3006 ammo from Sports Authority (little too hot for a Garand). Then I shot some Korean ammo with the corrosive primers and did not clean my barrel thoroughly. I then got it refinished & rebarreled at DGR.
Which gas plug do you have? I see the adjustable one from Schuster, another from Garandgear, and one other. I was thinking the Schuster's or Graandgear would be fine since I would using either surplus ammo or home reloads (following Garand tolerance recipes). Schuster's you have to re-adjust for each style of ammo, while Garandgear seems to be universal.
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Schuster from here: https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=51 (https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=51)
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I tried an adjustable. While it was nice to be able to tune for different loads and made a slight improvement in accuracy, reliability suffered and became a little frustrating. I have since put the standard plug back in. I stick to garand safe loads and have no issues with function.
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/33e4fa57836485ed770300586c83f499.jpg).
Just got my M1 I'll post some better pictures later.
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Like a virgin.
The Puuloa Garand/Vintage Rifle Match has been pushed back to 21 December.
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Since you guys have mentioned ammo, is there anywhere on island that has better prices than CMPs right now? On the mainland I have a bunch of the 150gr PPU stuff but wasn't sure if there is any of that here.
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/33e4fa57836485ed770300586c83f499.jpg).
Just got my M1 I'll post some better pictures later.
Must....order....mine!!!
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Since you guys have mentioned ammo, is there anywhere on island that has better prices than CMPs right now? On the mainland I have a bunch of the 150gr PPU stuff but wasn't sure if there is any of that here.
Good question. I have yet to check the lgs's for Garand friendly ammo.
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Since you guys have mentioned ammo, is there anywhere on island that has better prices than CMPs right now? On the mainland I have a bunch of the 150gr PPU stuff but wasn't sure if there is any of that here.
Not really. It about a dollar or more a round here on island for .30-06
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I tried an adjustable. While it was nice to be able to tune for different loads and made a slight improvement in accuracy, reliability suffered and became a little frustrating. I have since put the standard plug back in. I stick to garand safe loads and have no issues with function.
Can you recomend a book or manual for Garand reloads?
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Can you recomend a book or manual for Garand reloads?
I believe that the Sierra manual has a section on loads for gas guns. The Garand has been around for a long time and most of the popular loads are well known using Varget, 4985, 4064, etc.
You can find tons of good information here: http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=94 (http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=94)
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Ordered my rifle yesterday. I opted for the .30-06 CMP Special. I am already looking into ordering a Service grade, and debating getting into the "correct" field. Thank you all that have replied to this post!!!
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You're going to love it. M1s are addicting. If you ever need help completing your receiver, let me know. I've been collecting and building M1s for many years.
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Just ordered one as well. .30-06 CMP special. I had forgotten about this program for some reason.
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Like a virgin.
The Puuloa Garand/Vintage Rifle Match has been pushed back to 21 December.
Cancelled.... Any word on next one?