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Title: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 25, 2014, 11:28:43 PM
Aloha all,

I would like to see first if anyone here currently owns a Liberty Safe or has had one previously? What did you think of it (good and bad points).

Sam's Club currently has the Revolution 24 for sale. Has anybody bought one yet? Has anyone else checked it out, if so what do you think?

I have been looking for a safe for the last 4 months or so and I think this one might be the one. It has a few things I like and a few things I dislike I will list them below.

Likes:
1) made in USA comparably priced to a foreign made safe
2) the interior is of a nice quality
3) door organizer
4) has a pass through for a power cord
5) lifetime warranted for fire and attempted break in

Undecided:
1) locking bars vs. locking bolts
2) only 30 min fire protection, I guess that's better than nothing 
 
Dislikes:
1) electric keypad lock without a keyed backup

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Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: tanakattack on December 26, 2014, 09:16:47 AM
electronic lock is reason enough for me to not get one imo.  I think i bought my safe for like $900 after taxes and curbside delivery was free, from lowes.  It's a Centurion "by Liberty" safe with a mechanical dial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1iDz8Yt-ys#t=170 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1iDz8Yt-ys#t=170)

If you do decide to get it, seems like a good safe.  Just need to be careful when replacing batteries not to damage wires.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: Paul96734 on December 26, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
Aloha all,

I would like to see first if anyone here currently owns a Liberty Safe or has had one previously? What did you think of it (good and bad points).

Sam's Club currently has the Revolution 24 for sale. Has anybody bought one yet? Has anyone else checked it out, if so what do you think?

I have been looking for a safe for the last 4 months or so and I think this one might be the one. It has a few things I like and a few things I dislike I will list them below.

Likes:
1) made in USA comparably priced to a foreign made safe
2) the interior is of a nice quality
3) door organizer
4) has a pass through for a power cord
5) lifetime warranted for fire and attempted break in

Undecided:
1) locking bars vs. locking bolts
2) only 30 min fire protection, I guess that's better than nothing 
 
Dislikes:
1) electric keypad lock without a keyed backup

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You might consider a buying a back up key for this safe, i.e. blow torch.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: djsmiles808 on December 26, 2014, 10:35:34 AM
I'm in the same boat as you
Liberty safe from SAMs 678
Rhino safe from Costco 599
Browning safe from SA 675-750 with 25% off. The retail is normally 999 but I've seen it a few times going for 899.
I haven't checked lowes/home depot
IMO I think the browning is the best built from these 3. Also the heaviest. But SAMs/Costco return policy is awesome.
I wish they came with mechanical dials though

Or you can pick up a sturdy safe from 2k up.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 26, 2014, 10:40:32 AM
You might consider a buying a back up key for this safe, i.e. blow torch.

Roger that, I have been wanting my own Oxy/Acetylene kit for a while now. The warranty covers safe opening if due to break-in.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 26, 2014, 10:45:34 AM

I'm in the same boat as you
Liberty safe from SAMs 678
Rhino safe from Costco 599
Browning safe from SA 675-750 with 25% off. The retail is normally 999 but I've seen it a few times going for 899.
I haven't checked lowes/home depot
IMO I think the browning is the best built from these 3. Also the heaviest. But SAMs/Costco return policy is awesome.
I wish they came with mechanical dials though

Or you can pick up a sturdy safe from 2k up.


Roger thanks I have gotten a quote from Sturdy. Lowes and HD are hit and miss you'd probably have to order online and ship to home or store like tanakattack mentioned above.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 26, 2014, 10:48:09 AM
electronic lock is reason enough for me to not get one imo.  I think i bought my safe for like $900 after taxes and curbside delivery was free, from lowes.  It's a Centurion "by Liberty" safe with a mechanical dial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1iDz8Yt-ys#t=170 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1iDz8Yt-ys#t=170)

If you do decide to get it, seems like a good safe.  Just need to be careful when replacing batteries not to damage wires.

Thanks tanaka I will check lowes.com, I was watching that vid yesterday.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: zippz on December 26, 2014, 10:59:12 AM
I'm not a fire expert, but I'd assume 30 minutes of fire protection is usually enough.  Probably doesn't take that long for a house to burn down, and even if it did your homeowners insurance should cover the cost of the loss if it's documented.  And saving your guns would probably be the least of your worries anyways unless you had rare antiques.

I'd lean towards electronic locks.  I have a mechanical dial type now.  If I had to get quick access to my guns at night without turning on the lights, I wouldn't be able to get into my safe.  With a electronic lock I'd at least be able to feel for the keypad and be able to open it in the dark.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: zippz on December 26, 2014, 11:01:57 AM
Gun safe manufacturers are very optimistic on how many long guns their safes hold.  I don't think that safe could hold 24 unscoped 10/22's. 
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 26, 2014, 11:23:45 AM
I'm not a fire expert, but I'd assume 30 minutes of fire protection is usually enough.  Probably doesn't take that long for a house to burn down, and even if it did your homeowners insurance should cover the cost of the loss if it's documented.  And saving your guns would probably be the least of your worries anyways unless you had rare antiques.

I'd lean towards electronic locks.  I have a mechanical dial type now.  If I had to get quick access to my guns at night without turning on the lights, I wouldn't be able to get into my safe.  With a electronic lock I'd at least be able to feel for the keypad and be able to open it in the dark.

Gun safe manufacturers are very optimistic on how many long guns their safes hold.  I don't think that safe could hold 24 unscoped 10/22's. 

Yeah I am sure 30 min is enough and I told my wife the same thing if my house burns I have more to worry about than my firearms. I don't mind the electric lock I just don't like that there is no keyed backup like some other safes. I know that 24 doesn't mean 24 but even if its half that that is still more space than I currently need with some room for future expansion.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2014, 12:35:11 PM
I work with a lot of battery operated electronic stuff.
I'm sure many if you do also.
Don't you just love it when the batteries leak and destroy your device?
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: mauidog on December 26, 2014, 12:49:08 PM
I work with a lot of battery operated electronic stuff.
I'm sure many if you do also.
Don't you just love it when the batteries leak and destroy your device?

I'm sure not all batteries or locks are made equal.  Mine uses a 9V battery, and I can't remember the last time I had a 9V leak. 

Since I rely on my safe to keep me safe, I replace that Copper Top battery every 6-7 months.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2014, 01:33:33 PM
I'm sure not all batteries or locks are made equal.  Mine uses a 9V battery, and I can't remember the last time I had a 9V leak. 

Since I rely on my safe to keep me safe, I replace that Copper Top battery every 6-7 months.   :thumbsup:
...
I read the mfg website.
They do recommend duracell.
It would be good if the lock beeps to remind you of a low battery, like smoke alarms.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: FAS1 on December 27, 2014, 06:11:08 AM

Dislikes:
1) electric keypad lock without a keyed backup

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/26/0ddb77a243d4446b6aba2f4e401560a8.jpg)

The sign says S&G UL listed Mechanical Lock and so does Liberty's website. I would stay away from most electronic locks, especially ones that are not UL listed.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 27, 2014, 06:17:24 AM

The sign says S&G UL listed Mechanical Lock and so does Liberty's website. I would stay away from most electronic locks, especially ones that are not UL listed.
Yeah I read that to but I don't think that's the case seeing how the safe has a electric lock. I called Liberty and asked them if I could change the electric lock for a dial and they said yes.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: tanakattack on December 27, 2014, 06:38:51 AM
Yeah I read that to but I don't think that's the case seeing how the safe has a electric lock. I called Liberty and asked them if I could change the electric lock for a dial and they said yes.

lol how are you going to actually do that though.  If you need to ship the safe to them, then that's probably going to cost hundreds of dollars due to shipping costs.  If they will send someone to your house, then i guess that could work.  If not, then might just be easier to buy a more expensive amsec safe or something.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 27, 2014, 06:50:58 AM

lol how are you going to actually do that though.  If you need to ship the safe to them, then that's probably going to cost hundreds of dollars due to shipping costs.  If they will send someone to your house, then i guess that could work.  If not, then might just be easier to buy a more expensive amsec safe or something.

I am not a locksmith however I am a mechanic and I think I could do it. I do have a locksmith friend I could ask for help. More than likely I would have Liberty recommend a local locksmith to do the job. I looked at AMSEC and 4 months ago that was my choice if I would have had my truck instead of my car the day I went to SEC I would not have wrote this thread. I liked the AMSEC safe they are top notch as far as security goes but to me the interior is of a worse quality than most Chinese imports. I wasn't going to drop 2k on something I didn't like.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: TastesLikeMetal on December 27, 2014, 07:29:53 AM
electronic lock is reason enough for me to not get one imo. 

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Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: tanakattack on December 27, 2014, 08:05:00 AM
I am not a locksmith however I am a mechanic and I think I could do it. I do have a locksmith friend I could ask for help. More than likely I would have Liberty recommend a local locksmith to do the job. I looked at AMSEC and 4 months ago that was my choice if I would have had my truck instead of my car the day I went to SEC I would not have wrote this thread. I liked the AMSEC safe they are top notch as far as security goes but to me the interior is of a worse quality than most Chinese imports. I wasn't going to drop 2k on something I didn't like.

oh.  well good luck if you do that then, i wouldn't even know where to begin on changing something like that lol.

I wonder if there are any locksmiths on this forum.  Maybe they could actually do this as a side job for forum members.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 27, 2014, 08:14:37 AM

This

I gather you are against the electronic lock then?

oh.  well good luck if you do that then, i wouldn't even know where to begin on changing something like that lol.

I wonder if there are any locksmiths on this forum.  Maybe they could actually do this as a side job for forum members.

Thanks for the encouragement
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: TastesLikeMetal on December 27, 2014, 09:30:14 AM
I gather you are against the electronic lock then?
Yeah, I bought a Safe with an Electronic Keypad and it died 2 years in.  Luckily I bought it from Costco so they refunded me, although I had to break into it so I could get the guns out first.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: Mr. Farknocker on December 27, 2014, 06:04:51 PM
I think what the manufacture is actually saying when he says 24-gun safe is that it's a 7 rifle 17 pistol safe. Take out the shelves and you've got something closer to what it's being advertised as.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: Inspector on December 27, 2014, 07:35:09 PM
Just bought a Fortress Safe from X-Ring when they had them 20% off. Paid $1055 for a 36 gun safe. The Fortress Safes are made by Heritage. It is their more economic line of safes. It has an electronic lock with a key backup. Since it has the key back up I am not worried about the electronic lock failing. I will always have access. Plus the electronic lock is easily replaced and a new one can be shipped from the manufacturer. I feel this safe was the best compromise between those without a key backup like the Browning and the Sentry sold locally and the higher end safes. So far I like the safe but I feel the interior was not as well designed as it could be. I will probably change the interior once I start getting close to its capacity.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 27, 2014, 10:57:04 PM

Yeah, I bought a Safe with an Electronic Keypad and it died 2 years in.  Luckily I bought it from Costco so they refunded me, although I had to break into it so I could get the guns out first.
thanks for sharing. I am thinking that Liberty's warranty would cover if the keypad (electronics) dies, I will check. So how hard was it to break in to your safe. Do you meant like locksmith safe cracker break in or physically pry bar style break in?
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 27, 2014, 10:58:45 PM

I think what the manufacture is actually saying when he says 24-gun safe is that it's a 7 rifle 17 pistol safe. Take out the shelves and you've got something closer to what it's being advertised as.

Yeah I got you this safe has more than enough room for what I currently own with room for further expansion. Plus I still have the storage containers that I am currently using.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 27, 2014, 11:03:21 PM

Just bought a Fortress Safe from X-Ring when they had them 20% off. Paid $1055 for a 36 gun safe. The Fortress Safes are made by Heritage. It is their more economic line of safes. It has an electronic lock with a key backup. Since it has the key back up I am not worried about the electronic lock failing. I will always have access. Plus the electronic lock is easily replaced and a new one can be shipped from the manufacturer. I feel this safe was the best compromise between those without a key backup like the Browning and the Sentry sold locally and the higher end safes. So far I like the safe but I feel the interior was not as well designed as it could be. I will probably change the interior once I start getting close to its capacity.

Thanks Inspector for sharing. I checked out the safes at x-ring(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/28/56f2b8b3fd461ab4a13d01fb3c226f95.jpg)fortress 24
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: TastesLikeMetal on December 27, 2014, 11:28:59 PM
thanks for sharing. I am thinking that Liberty's warranty would cover if the keypad (electronics) dies, I will check. So how hard was it to break in to your safe. Do you meant like locksmith safe cracker break in or physically pry bar style break in?

Craftsman Prybars and maybe 2 hours.  I can't thank Costco enough for their refund policy though.  I wheeled the safe in pieces into the Iwilei branch and they apologized to me for the hassle, I appreciated the customer service.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 28, 2014, 01:30:07 PM

Craftsman Prybars and maybe 2 hours.  I can't thank Costco enough for their refund policy though.  I wheeled the safe in pieces into the Iwilei branch and they apologized to me for the hassle, I appreciated the customer service.
wow that had to have been something. Did you take any pictures of the safe after?
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: Inspector on December 28, 2014, 02:23:36 PM
Thanks Inspector for sharing. I checked out the safes at x-ring(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/28/56f2b8b3fd461ab4a13d01fb3c226f95.jpg)fortress 24
How did you like the Fortress Safes? Don't tell anyone, but if you offer Brian to pay regular price he might throw in the delivery for free.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on December 28, 2014, 02:46:53 PM

How did you like the Fortress Safes? Don't tell anyone, but if you offer Brian to pay regular price he might throw in the delivery for free.  :D :D :D
it was okay but wasn't terribly impressed with the interior. The long gun area on the left side in the pic looks like a pain to get guns in and out of especially further in the back. I will keep your suggestion in mind if I decide to purchase from x-ring.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: TastesLikeMetal on December 28, 2014, 07:08:05 PM
Wasn't too bad, it was in a cramped area though so I took my time.

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Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: onewaymedia on January 03, 2015, 07:35:36 AM
If your still looking for a safe.  I purchased a Mesa safe from Home Depot.  You can order the safe in store and you don't pay any shipping charge.  As long as the safe can make it to a California store it can be delivered to honolulu.  It will take about a month to arrive.

  I also paid for delivery $75 since I didn't want to stand there with a 900lbs safe in the back of my truck trying to figure out how to get it off.
Title: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on January 03, 2015, 09:17:30 AM
If your still looking for a safe.  I purchased a Mesa safe from Home Depot.  You can order the safe in store and you don't pay any shipping charge.  As long as the safe can make it to a California store it can be delivered to honolulu.  It will take about a month to arrive.

  I also paid for delivery $75 since I didn't want to stand there with a 900lbs safe in the back of my truck trying to figure out how to get it off.

Thanks. I am still looking, I have checked most big box store websites (Lowes, HD, Sears, Walmart, Sam's, Costco and ect.) I saw what they had to offer. I am a little hesitant buying sight unseen. If I could ask what model did you get and how happy are you with your purchase? Is the interior of a good quality? 900 lbs wow that must be a whopper probably a little larger that I was thinking. What all safes were you considering, what did you look at locally that you could compare the Mesa to?
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: zippz on January 03, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
I think what the manufacture is actually saying when he says 24-gun safe is that it's a 7 rifle 17 pistol safe. Take out the shelves and you've got something closer to what it's being advertised as.

The label in OP's post says 24 long guns.  Well it says "up to" 24 long guns.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: onewaymedia on January 03, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
I bought the 36 gun safe (mbf7236) with dial lock.  The interior is carpeted and has adjustable shelves.  Also has a power strip built-in.  It didn't advertise that it had a plug (bonus).  I can take some pictures and post tomorrow. 

Fyi.  I was looking at safes for about a year or so.  I originally wanted an amsec (over priced in Hawaii) but I also looked at liberty, cannon, and a few others. But the cost of purchasing one from a Hawaii dealer was out of the question. I even looked to buying something in the mainland and shipping it freight.  But ended up buying the mesa safe.  Overall I'm happy with my purchase, given the limited availability we have in the islands.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: dustoff003 on January 03, 2015, 09:09:58 PM

I bought the 36 gun safe (mbf7236) with dial lock.  The interior is carpeted and has adjustable shelves.  Also has a power strip built-in.  It didn't advertise that it had a plug (bonus).  I can take some pictures and post tomorrow. 

Fyi.  I was looking at safes for about a year or so.  I originally wanted an amsec (over priced in Hawaii) but I also looked at liberty, cannon, and a few others. But the cost of purchasing one from a Hawaii dealer was out of the question. I even looked to buying something in the mainland and shipping it freight.  But ended up buying the mesa safe.  Overall I'm happy with my purchase, given the limited availability we have in the islands.

Thanks for the reply. Feel free to PM pics.
Title: Re: Liberty Safe Revolution 24 at Sam's Club
Post by: monster796 on January 11, 2015, 05:15:09 PM
Body steel thickness is very important. I wouldnt deal with a safe that had less then 12 gauge steel. Experts recommend a quarter inch body and 1/2inch plate door.