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Title: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: mauiboi9 on January 23, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=fYPwO4N5BBo#t=154 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=fYPwO4N5BBo#t=154)
Title: Re: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: Tom_G on January 24, 2015, 08:18:06 AM
The challenge is "get me to change my position on the second amendment and firearms."  Sounds vague enough that the only way to win would be to convert him from a rabid pro to a rabid anti.  This isn't meaningful, it's posturing.
Title: Re: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: mauidog on January 24, 2015, 10:33:50 AM
The challenge is "get me to change my position on the second amendment and firearms."  Sounds vague enough that the only way to win would be to convert him from a rabid pro to a rabid anti.  This isn't meaningful, it's posturing.

It's no different than your straw argument, Tom, that gun control can work.  You postulated a lowering of gun-related deaths in the context of banned firearms.  If that theory holds any water, it could be a submission to the contest.

He's offering the money for a logical, irrefutable reason why gun control trumps the second amendment's purpose.  If the anti's think they are right, now is the chance for one of them to prove WHY.

If he gets a response which proves empirically that gun control is better than a right to keep and bear arms which he can't logically counter with facts, I'm sure he'll concede.

The only reason this might be considered posturing is, we all know no such logical argument for, or example of, successful gun control exists.  It's like offering a reward for a DoDo Bird.
Title: Re: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: dogman on January 24, 2015, 04:13:46 PM
If someone could change my position on firearms, it would sure save me a lot of $$$.
Title: Re: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: mauiboi9 on January 24, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
Im anxious to see the submissions.
Title: Re: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: mauidog on January 24, 2015, 08:51:42 PM
Im anxious to see the submissions.

I have extra blood pressure medicine ready!   :grrr:
Title: Re: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: Tom_G on January 25, 2015, 01:14:30 AM
It's no different than your straw argument, Tom, that gun control can work. 

No, I suppose not, but mine was limited to a thought experiment in a single forum, with no pretense at legitimacy.  This reaches a much broader audience, and with a reward posted, at least pretends to be a legitimate offer, while just being propaganda. 
Title: Re: Pro Gun Control? $50,000 challenge!!!
Post by: mauidog on January 25, 2015, 08:55:51 AM
No, I suppose not, but mine was limited to a thought experiment in a single forum, with no pretense at legitimacy.  This reaches a much broader audience, and with a reward posted, at least pretends to be a legitimate offer, while just being propaganda.

One man's propaganda is another man's public demonstration of the absurd!

 >:D