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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: mauiboi9 on February 05, 2015, 07:49:56 PM
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Well first some good news. We had 78 people testify against State Senate Bill SB642 on Tuesday. Well done. The bad news is only 78 testified in opposition. The initiators of this bill asked for a continuance (delay) in the hearing after seeing how much opposition there was to it.
The following is directed those of you who have not yet testified. There is still time (1PM Thursday Feb 5th). Please read this 'word for word' excerpt from SB462:
If any applicant is denied a permit, the chiefs of police of the respective counties shall send, by certified mail, a notice setting forth the reasons for the denial and [may] shall require that the applicant [voluntarily surrender all firearms and ammunition to the chief of police where the applicant resides or] dispose of all firearms and ammunition[.] and provide a sworn statement to the chief of police that the applicant has disposed of all firearms and ammunition in the applicant's possession. The chief of police shall search all applicable records to determine whether the applicant has been issued any permits to acquire or has registered any firearms. If [an] the applicant fails to [voluntarily surrender or] dispose of all firearms and ammunition within thirty days from the date notice was mailed, the chief of police [may] shall seize all firearms and ammunition
What this means is that if you unwitingly apply for a 'permit to acquire a handgun' for a firearm that is not legal in the State of Hawaii and they deny it, (as they should according to current laws), "...the chiefs of police... shall ...require that the applicant (to) dispose of all firearms and ammunition."
There is still time to stop this bill. If you have not testified as of yet, PLEASE, PLEASE do so NOW. Simple instructions on how to testify are found below.
They will come take your firearms away!
Mahalo for your support, Mark Genovese HRA VP
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SB642 relates to Transportation; Roads in Limbo; Liability for Maintenance. Typo?
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=642 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=642)
Do you mean SB462? The PSM committee deferred the measure until 02-10-15 1:15PM in conference room 229.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=462 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=462)
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Standard fuckin' procedure in things like this. Table the discussion to "burn out" the opposition and allow those for a measure to gather their resources and sandbag the testimony at the next session.
Seen it happen a dozen times even in other matters, like re-zoning stuff and the like.
Keep it in mind, and re-appear at that next session. And gather more folks to testify for your side.
I took a boxing class in High School. Didn't like it, quit, but I'll never forget what the Coach kept drumming into our heads:
Keep on punchin' !
Keep on punchin' !
Keep on punchin' !
Keep on punchin' !
Keep on punchin' !
Terry, 230RN
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Or as Dory sez...
Just keep swimm'n
Just keep swimm'n
Just keep swimm'n
less violent :rofl:
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i don't get it.
what is there to 'testify' against?
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http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=462 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=462)
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i was asked by a friend to help spread the word about the stuff thats going on in legislation. So he sends me the emails and i just cut and paste to inform the general public that isnt in the mailing list. I believe the mailing list is from the hra?
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i don't get it.
what is there to 'testify' against?
It's not like the "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" testimony in Court.
It's a freewheeling opportunity to gather the public's input on a matter before it's set in stone, or the "testimony" you hear in church.
I've seen that strategy of tabling a measure when the "testimony" goes against what the Chairman/lady of whatever ruling body is involved doesn't like the public input s/he's hearing.
Quoting myself:
Table the discussion to "burn out" the opposition and allow those for a measure to gather their resources and sandbag the testimony at the next session.
Seen it happen a dozen times even in other matters, like re-zoning stuff and the like.
:grrr:
Terry. 230RN