Post by: stangzilla on February 16, 2015, 08:06:59 PM
had them cut a 10 foot length into 5 two foot lengths and thread each end
used 2 90 degree elbows and 2 T fittings and 2 short nipples to go from the T to the 90 for each of the legs
used 2 hose clamps to secure the chain to the cross bar
I could have saved some money by not threading 1 end on 4 of the 5 two foot lengths of pipe.
i added a cap on the end of each leg.
and 2 S links for the steel target. :geekdanc:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7325/15936870853_1ed46d0308_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/70099529@N03/15936870853/)
Post by: paka808 on February 16, 2015, 10:13:27 PM
Post by: oldfart on February 17, 2015, 03:22:42 AM
Weren't you concerned about scratching the floor?
The other thing I noticed is there doesn't seem to be anything to keep the legs from spreading out.
Post by: stangzilla on February 17, 2015, 05:52:27 AM
I screwed it in pretty tight but can still fold flat for transport
Hopefully can push it into the grass/dirt and that'll hold it
But we'll see when I test it out
I'll give it a knock around test tonight
Post by: Tom_G on February 17, 2015, 01:09:45 PM
Post by: stangzilla on February 17, 2015, 02:30:27 PM
I've thought about a design much like this, and several others. Let us know how it performs! Also, what was the bottom line in terms of $$$?
total cost was about $55 for the piping and fittings (without the steel target and chain)
chain is less than $5 depends on what kind of chain you get, then add the steel target cost.
the hardest part was getting the pipe cut and threaded. city mill did each cut for $1, and each thread for $2.50
i really didnt need to thread both sides of the 4 legs and do the caps on the ends, so that made it more expensive
I was thinking of getting the Caldwell rifle gong and frame for $115 on amazon which was the cheapest i could find
so total cost may be in the 85-95 range, still cheaper than the caldwell one.
Post by: Tom_G on February 17, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
3/4" pipe?
Post by: stangzilla on February 18, 2015, 07:07:48 AM
The use of hose clamps for mounting the chain is inspired!
3/4" pipe?
I used 1/2 inch pipe. only bc it's a little cheaper. we'll see how strong it is once it gets shot. lol.
the hose clamps are also cheap and easy to install, no drilling, and can adjust the width of the chain, or can take the chain off
Post by: RHKA on February 18, 2015, 02:55:23 PM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00JVX4JB8/?tag=2ahawaii-20 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00JVX4JB8/?tag=2ahawaii-20)
Check it out, there's also videos on YouTube as well :D
Post by: dirtylickins on February 18, 2015, 09:25:07 PM
I'm going to be trying "the last stand target stand" 39$ w/o shipping on Amazon. It's a rubber mold, that holds 1/2" rebar and looks like a winnah :thumbsup: you can also break it down so it's fairly portable. As far as my steel targets is concerned I'm going to mount them using cargo straps, I heard fire hose is good to use too, it last a lot longer then chain from what I've been researching. I should be getting my molds in the mail this week. Will post some pics as soon as I get it.fellas speaking of target stands if you hold on for a week we are testing a locally produced product similar to the rubber and rebar type but it's much more compact and portable and less Hassel to bring to the range. It's already prototype just need to range test.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00JVX4JB8/?tag=2ahawaii-20 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00JVX4JB8/?tag=2ahawaii-20)
Check it out, there's also videos on YouTube as well :D
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 18, 2015, 09:56:36 PM
fellas speaking of target stands if you hold on for a week we are testing a locally produced product similar to the rubber and rebar type but it's much more compact and portable and less Hassel to bring to the range. It's already prototype just need to range test.
looking forward to hearing bout that
Post by: stangzilla on February 19, 2015, 07:55:07 AM
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Post by: yurcarmeean on February 19, 2015, 08:54:08 AM
this weekend going to test my target frame with AR, AK, and .308
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/onederful100/avatars/elmer_fudd_shoot.gif) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/onederful100/media/avatars/elmer_fudd_shoot.gif.html)
Let us know how it holds up :shaka:
Post by: macsak on February 19, 2015, 09:00:17 AM
this weekend going to test my target frame with AR, AK, and .308
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/onederful100/avatars/elmer_fudd_shoot.gif) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/onederful100/media/avatars/elmer_fudd_shoot.gif.html)
Duck season!
Post by: Tom_G on February 19, 2015, 11:12:45 AM
Post by: Inspector on February 19, 2015, 01:35:46 PM
this weekend going to test my target frame with AR, AK, and .308If you are out on Sunday morning, stop by bench 94 and say hello. Some of our members have some pretty big iron shooting 500gr projectiles. Really rings out and tests our steel targets. If it can survive that, it can survive anything. :rofl:
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/onederful100/avatars/elmer_fudd_shoot.gif) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/onederful100/media/avatars/elmer_fudd_shoot.gif.html)
Post by: Lockin on February 19, 2015, 06:01:14 PM
Folds up nice and mostly happy with it.
edit: notice I didn't unfold the right front leg fully for pic. you get the idea tho.
Post by: stangzilla on February 19, 2015, 06:25:58 PM
If any of you want to see how your frames survive being pounded by a WWII battle rifle in .30-06, let me know! I'm happy to help out in the name of science!
If you are out on Sunday morning, stop by bench 94 and say hello. Some of our members have some pretty big iron shooting 500gr projectiles. Really rings out and tests our steel targets. If it can survive that, it can survive anything. :rofl:
I'll be there on saturday. :shaka:
Post by: dogman on February 19, 2015, 06:31:50 PM
I'll be there on saturday. :shaka:Morning or afternoon?
Post by: stangzilla on February 20, 2015, 07:17:51 AM
Morning or afternoon?
maybe afternoon
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 21, 2015, 07:00:09 PM
made one from metal home depot saw horse. Cost 40. worked well for 556. knocked it over a few times with 6.8 tho.
Folds up nice and mostly happy with it.
edit: notice I didn't unfold the right front leg fully for pic. you get the idea tho.
do they still sell those sawhorses at homedepot?
Post by: dustoff003 on February 21, 2015, 07:25:07 PM
do they still sell those sawhorses at homedepot?I saw some at hardware hawaii last week.
Post by: SpeedTek on February 21, 2015, 11:04:52 PM
Post by: stangzilla on February 22, 2015, 01:07:41 PM
had some damage to the C clamp or D clamp, whatever its called on the right side holding the target bc it got shot
and the hose clamps came a little loose from the shooting
but the frame was good.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/16617397005_7a85e8f00e_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/70099529@N03/16617397005/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8580/16616779952_42efc7522b_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/70099529@N03/16616779952/)
Post by: dustoff003 on February 22, 2015, 01:52:19 PM
Post by: macsak on February 22, 2015, 02:05:09 PM
Thanks for the follow up stangzilla! What are the rough dimensions for your stand I see in your original post you mentioned a 10 foot length cut in two, but nothing looks 5 feet long did you cut them again so the legs are approximately 2.5 feet long?
look closer, dustoff
he had a 10 foot length cut into 2 foot segments
he has 5 pieces of equal length
:shaka:
Post by: dustoff003 on February 22, 2015, 02:16:33 PM
look closer, dustoffmahalo macsak
he had a 10 foot length cut into 2 foot segments
he has 5 pieces of equal length
:shaka:
Post by: stangzilla on February 22, 2015, 07:45:00 PM
look closer, dustoff
he had a 10 foot length cut into 2 foot segments
he has 5 pieces of equal length
:shaka:
Yes, that's it.
There's also a small nipple piece between the t joint and the 90 degree joint
Post by: dustoff003 on February 22, 2015, 07:48:48 PM
Yes, that's it.Roger thanks I was reading but not comprehending...
There's also a small nipple piece between the t joint and the 90 degree joint
Post by: macsak on February 22, 2015, 08:18:35 PM
target frame did well with 556, 7.62x39, and 7.62x51
had some damage to the C clamp or D clamp, whatever its called on the right side holding the target bc it got shot
and the hose clamps came a little loose from the shooting
but the frame was good.
we had some discussion of metal targets at the GTG on friday
one thing that was mentioned was that you can use paracord to tie the target
rounds go right through the strands, only burning/melting the fiber a bit
credit to kenace and speed for this idea
Post by: dustoff003 on February 22, 2015, 08:23:56 PM
we had some discussion of metal targets at the GTG on fridayi was kinda thinking of running line/rope through my chains links as a back up
one thing that was mentioned was that you can use paracord to tie the target
rounds go right through the strands, only burning/melting the fiber a bit
credit to kenace and speed for this idea
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 23, 2015, 07:40:34 AM
Just wondering how much has to be carried to the 100 yd marker...
Post by: stangzilla on February 23, 2015, 12:49:26 PM
Stang how much does it weigh, the whole set up altogether with ball and chain?
Just wondering how much has to be carried to the 100 yd marker...
i'll weigh it when i get home tonight.
Post by: stangzilla on February 23, 2015, 12:53:37 PM
on mine, i have extra chain. theres a foot on each side, but i only used half of it.
in case a link breaks, i have extra i can use. ;)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8580/16616779952_42efc7522b_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/70099529@N03/16616779952/)
Post by: stangzilla on February 23, 2015, 05:25:35 PM
Stang how much does it weigh, the whole set up altogether with ball and chain?
Just wondering how much has to be carried to the 100 yd marker...
Total weight with chain and steel target = 19 lbs
Light as a feather.
Post by: Paul96734 on February 23, 2015, 07:14:58 PM
Post by: stangzilla on February 23, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
Post by: sound wave on February 23, 2015, 10:00:32 PM
Post by: Paul96734 on February 24, 2015, 09:24:58 AM
It can be folded flat to about 2 feet x 2 feet
Was the steel target purchased locally or through the net?
Post by: stangzilla on February 24, 2015, 10:20:57 AM
That thing was really nice. Thanks for letting me shoot at it. What do you think of hanging two targets from the frame? one medium target and one small size? not sure how that would work, but just a thought.
anytime!
I do have another 4" steel target. the one on there now is 8".
we can try hang both the next time. :shaka:
Was the steel target purchased locally or through the net?
I got mine from Ebay a while ago.
but there is a thread of a guy making them locally.
Post by: dustoff003 on February 24, 2015, 10:45:43 AM
Post by: stangzilla on February 24, 2015, 12:58:36 PM
under the paper targets, i put a cross bar of wood that i would hang the steel target from
it wouldn't last long, due to the shrapnel from the bullet hitting the target and spraying the wood beneath it.
I thought about making a wider, saw horse-like stand to hang the steel from.
but then i thought metal/steel stand would be better, last longer. better to withstand the lead shrapnel.
Post by: blackheart0311 on February 24, 2015, 04:31:20 PM
target frame did well with 556, 7.62x39, and 7.62x51
had some damage to the C clamp or D clamp, whatever its called on the right side holding the target bc it got shot
and the hose clamps came a little loose from the shooting
but the frame was good.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/16617397005_7a85e8f00e_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/70099529@N03/16617397005/)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8580/16616779952_42efc7522b_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/70099529@N03/16616779952/)
was legit!
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 25, 2015, 08:08:18 PM
Post by: Heavies on February 25, 2015, 09:20:45 PM
are you allowed to bring spray paint, on the range, to cover the blemishes on that ar500 steel?yes
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 25, 2015, 10:47:49 PM
Is AR550 steel significantly better than AR500 steel?
Post by: stangzilla on February 26, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
it seem to work ok so far. but i've only had the steel target for maybe 1.5 years, but i don't see any rust on it.
i also have a smaller 4" x 3/8" steel that i use for my airgun in my yard that i just leave out in the elements, and there is surface rust on it. i dont paint it or do anything to it.
i've had that for just as long as the bigger one thats on the target frame.
but i think even with the rust, it'll last for years. if it gets bad, i'll clean it off with a dremel or something.
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 26, 2015, 12:46:55 PM
FYI I'm finding 8", ar500 and 550, laser and/or water jet cut, 1/2” thick, gongs online for $35 shipped on ebay
Heading to home depot tonight after pau Hana to check out steel sawhorses, steel pipe and chain prices whoooo! :thumbsup:
Post by: dustoff003 on February 26, 2015, 12:54:24 PM
Any takes on ar550 steel? I read online that its a lot harder than ar500 but also has a different chemical structure. Was wondering before I make a purchase from eBay.$11 more you can get one locally if there are any left, https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=18121.0
FYI I'm finding 8", ar500 and 550, laser and/or water jet cut, 1/2” thick, gongs online for $35 shipped on ebay
Heading to home depot tonight after pau Hana to check out steel sawhorses, steel pipe and chain prices whoooo! :thumbsup:
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 26, 2015, 07:08:52 PM
made one from metal home depot saw horse. Cost 40. worked well for 556. knocked it over a few times with 6.8 tho.
Folds up nice and mostly happy with it.
edit: notice I didn't unfold the right front leg fully for pic. you get the idea tho.
i checked home depot for this sawhorse, no more, they get choke plastic sawhorse and 1 metal variation
gonna check hardware hawaii this weekend
Lockin - i know you havent had issues with stability of this stand up to 6.8 but if you shoot bigger rounds at it...
what about lengthening the chains? it would lower the center of gravity of the stand as a whole, eliminating tip over
i'd be interested to test if lowering the gong would be substantially beneficial to stability 8)
Post by: yurcarmeean on February 26, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
$11 more you can get one locally if there are any left, https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=18121.0
thanks for the suggestion :shaka:
im actually leaning toward this one seller on ebay, its $35 for an ar550 plate shipped, same price as an ar500 plate,
interested to see if a 30-06 would scratch it ... if i end up getting it i wouldnt mind letting them old timers have a shot at it with them heavy ass rounds! :D
Post by: stangzilla on July 13, 2015, 07:32:15 AM
shot it again this weekend after tightening up the legs with a pipe wrench.
eventually i'll have to replace the hose clamps bc 1 got shot up a bit, lead hitting the top pipe as well as the legs.
overall its standing up well. :thumbsup:
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/onederful100/guns/steel%20stand.jpg) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/onederful100/media/guns/steel%20stand.jpg.html)