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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: itwasntme on December 05, 2009, 11:53:48 PM
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http://newsok.com/woman-shoots-and-k...ad_story_title (http://newsok.com/woman-shoots-and-k...ad_story_title)
Listen to the audio.
A little long but worth the time. Scary indeed!
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Your link is broken. Is this the one? http://www.newsok.com/homeowner-shoots-kills-intruder-in-lincoln-county/article/3422809 (http://www.newsok.com/homeowner-shoots-kills-intruder-in-lincoln-county/article/3422809)
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Thats the one. Thanks man :shaka:
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wow... castle law here right?
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I listened to it last night but didn't have a chance to comment.
Can you imagine what it would be like to be in that situation? I wonder if I could be that calm.
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We should all be so lucky to be as calm as she was in such a horrific time. In one portion of the clip she tells her son, "I did exactly what you told me to do", this means her son took the time to go over how to respond to this type of incident. Take the time to talk to your loved ones in your home, it may one day pay off as it did with this person.
If I had to guess at this, she was able to remain calm because she had instruction from her son to fall back on. Had it not been for his direction, she may have fallen into a state of panic. This can teach us all. Formulate a game plan, know the limits of your rights, this way you dont find yourself executing aimless steps that may wind you up dead or in jail. Im glad shes ok, but I pray for her and hope she can cope with the emotional aftermath of taking a life, even if she had every right to do so.
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wow... castle law here right?
Yes, and no..."Castle Law" is a bit of a generic term for modifications to the laws about defending yourself. For example, in Hawaii, you don't have to retreat from your house before you employ lethal force, assuming you can articulate fear of death, great bodily injury, kidnapping, rape, or forcible sodomy.In addition, in Hawaii, even if you have sufficient justification for the use of deadly force, you may still be sued in civil court.
Other state's "Castle Laws" have provisions about "presumption of deadly intent," which means that if someone broke into your house, the law assumes there was sufficient justification for employing deadly force, even if you couldn't articulate a specific fear that would otherwise justify the use of said deadly force. Sometimes various "Castle Laws" include protection from civil suits.
I don't know where this happened, but there are some states (actually just one that I can think of off the top of my head - New Jersey) that require you to retreat from your own home in an attempt to avoid the use of deadly force before you can be legally justified in using deadly force.
Regardless, that woman deserves a lot of respect. It was obvious she didn't want to use the gun, and is another fine example that runs counter to the generally accepted (at least in the popular media) notion that anyone who has, or uses a gun in self defense is just some looney looking for an excuse to kill someone with their gun....
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woah...
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Thanks for the info HiCarry. :shaka:
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Nearly 25 minutes from the initial phone call until the police arrived. How's that for peace of mind.
Reading the article, the attorney in the civil suit is probably going to claim that the intruder was simply desperate to get help for his OD sister, and that's why he was pounding on the doors and smashing in windows.
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I was using this article for a debate on a different forum and I figured I'd post a new working link to the audio: http://feeds.newsok.tv/services/player/bcpid1681694480?bctid=54313835001 (http://feeds.newsok.tv/services/player/bcpid1681694480?bctid=54313835001)
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thanks for that.