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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tom_G on March 27, 2015, 02:02:04 PM
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Splitting off of the other topic on innovations, to ask:
"If you could design your own, or got to set specifications for a designer, what would you want in a handgun?"
I'll start.
1. 1911 style triggers. Ok, that's not so much an innovation, as a recognition that JB got it right in the early 1900s and for some reason, everyone is ignoring it!
2. Barrel below the action. The farther above your hand the barrel sits, the more of a factor muzzle rise is. SO why the fuck not put the barrel on the bottom, and the recoil assembly above it?
3. Forward grip. The trigger should be maybe an inch behind the muzzle, and the grip right there. The body of the gun should lay atop your arm like a wrist rocket.
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Splitting off of the other topic on innovations, to ask:
"If you could design your own, or got to set specifications for a designer, what would you want in a handgun?"
I'll start.
1. 1911 style triggers. Ok, that's not so much an innovation, as a recognition that JB got it right in the early 1900s and for some reason, everyone is ignoring it!
2. Barrel below the action. The farther above your hand the barrel sits, the more of a factor muzzle rise is. SO why the fuck not put the barrel on the bottom, and the recoil assembly above it?
3. Forward grip. The trigger should be maybe an inch behind the muzzle, and the grip right there. The body of the gun should lay atop your arm like a wrist rocket.
modernized version of the HK P7
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modernized version of the HK P7
You just like pulling on the cocking mechanism!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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You just like pulling on the cocking mechanism!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
just call me "squeezecocker"
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just call me "squeezecocker"
You sure you want to be known for that? :shake: :shake: :shake:
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I definitely think the barrel below the action would be a good idea, it would certainly look quite different, and that may affect its ability to catch on as a mainstream pistol. For some reason if a firearm doesn't look damn near the same it did a hundred years ago people don't like it. Gun owners seem to despise innovation "if it was good enough in world war 2 it's still gud nuff for me!!" And it's attitudes like that that stifle innovation. If you really think about guns designed exclusively for the civilian market really don't innovate much at all, guns designed for the military incorporate much more innovation, as necessity is the mother of innovation. I think kel tec is the only company geared towards the civilian market that actually innovates.
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Splitting off of the other topic on innovations, to ask:
"If you could design your own, or got to set specifications for a designer, what would you want in a handgun?"
I'll start.
1. 1911 style triggers. Ok, that's not so much an innovation, as a recognition that JB got it right in the early 1900s and for some reason, everyone is ignoring it!
2. Barrel below the action. The farther above your hand the barrel sits, the more of a factor muzzle rise is. SO why the fuck not put the barrel on the bottom, and the recoil assembly above it?
3. Forward grip. The trigger should be maybe an inch behind the muzzle, and the grip right there. The body of the gun should lay atop your arm like a wrist rocket.
1. what do you mean? like, the full trigger design, or you want more SAO pistols?
2. some revolvers already do that. but the way hammers and strikers are designed is probably why this doesnt happen for pistols.
3. and how long do you expect this barrel to be?
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A cellular option that calls 911 when you pull the trigger so the Cops and EMT can be dispatched to your GPS coordinates immediately (able to turn it off during practice, of course).
That way, when the Cop asks why you shot the crook, you can truthfully say you were just calling for help and the thing went off!
>:D
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Phaser.
Put it on full power and it gets rid of the body at the same time you don't need to clean up the mess. No need for HPD or EMT's. No need to go to court to prosecute. Judge, jury and wardon all in the same package.
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Concealed pistol that can be fired from the wrist, Assassin's Creed style.
LOL! I was thinking the exact same thing, Q! Or one attached to the hand/finger where you can just point your finger and shoot.
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1. what do you mean? like, the full trigger design, or you want more SAO pistols?
2. some revolvers already do that. but the way hammers and strikers are designed is probably why this doesnt happen for pistols.
3. and how long do you expect this barrel to be?
1. Triggers that slide straight to the rear instead of pivoting up around a pin.
2. Sounds like hammers and strikers need to be redesigned.
3. As long or short as desired.
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I want something that's the same size as a Walther TPH, with capacity of at least 100rds, shoots flat to 1,000yds, and hits like the Hammer of Thor.
But I'd settle for the P7 going back into production.
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1. 1911 style triggers. Ok, that's not so much an innovation, as a recognition that JB got it right in the early 1900s and for some reason, everyone is ignoring it!
I read somewhere that the 1911 style trigger actually makes people overly dependent on it, instead of develop proper trigger discipline and muscle memory to properly press it back.
Not sure if valid, but does make sense.
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Integrated light and laser, a la Taurus Curve... but not lame looking.
Non-reciprocating (frame mounted) mini red dot sight, like an open division competition gun, but able to fit in a real holster.