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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: suka on June 02, 2015, 06:17:20 PM

Title: Permanently attaching muzzle devices. My guess HPD is using this to gauge mags.
Post by: suka on June 02, 2015, 06:17:20 PM

4 ways:

1) silver solder of 1100 degrees F
2) electric seam weld at least half the          circumference.
3)  4 evenly spaced electric tack welds points
4) traditional pinned and welded over

Title: Re: Permanently attaching muzzle devices. My guess HPD is using this to gauge mags.
Post by: suka on June 02, 2015, 06:26:18 PM

I can't find the original letterhead






DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
Washington, D.C. 20226


Dear Mr. : xxxxx

This refers to your letter of March xxxxxxx in which you ask
about permanently attaching a muzzle device to various firearms.

A muzzle device, such as a muzzle brake or barrel extension, which
is attached to a barrel by means of welding or high temperature
silver solder having a melting point of at least 1,100 degrees
Fahrenheit, is considered to be part of the barrel for purposes of
measurement. A seam weld extending at least one-half the
circumference of the barrel or four equidistant tack welds around
the circumference of the barrel are adequate for this purpose.

A firearm having a muzzle brake, cap, or barrel extension
permanently attached by those same methods to cover the threads on
a barrel, would not be considered to have a threaded muzzle.
Please note, however, that any muzzle device or barrel extension
which functions as a flash suppressor or grenade launcher would
still constitute one of the qualifying features of a semiautomatic
assault weapon as that term is defined in 18 U.S.C. section
921(a)(30(B). Industrial adhesive products are not an acceptable
method for permanently attaching a muzzle device.

Mr.

We trust that the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry.
If you have further questions concerning this matter, please
contact us.


Sincerely yours,

[signed]

Edward M. Owen, Jr.
Chief, Firearms Technology Branch

Title: Re: Permanently attaching muzzle devices. My guess HPD is using this to gauge mags.
Post by: suka on June 02, 2015, 06:50:52 PM

No federal laws pertain to permenant magazines, thus BATF declined to answer the question and deferred it to state and local officials.

Title: Re: Permanently attaching muzzle devices. My guess HPD is using this to gauge mags.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 02, 2015, 10:43:59 PM

So you think the HPD would call the BATF about what constitutes a permanent mag and then they would get a similar response? Has no one gotten an answer on this matter before?

Title: Re: Permanently attaching muzzle devices. My guess HPD is using this to gauge mags.
Post by: suka on June 03, 2015, 04:51:03 AM

Quote from: eyeeatingfish on June 02, 2015, 10:43:59 PM

So you think the HPD would call the BATF about what constitutes a permanent mag and then they would get a similar response? Has no one gotten an answer on this matter before?

yes they told me so verbally

Title: Re: Permanently attaching muzzle devices. My guess HPD is using this to gauge mags.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 05, 2015, 07:55:07 PM

Quote from: suka on June 03, 2015, 04:51:03 AM

yes they told me so verbally

Is that good or bad? If the BATF is less strict than HPD it might not be that bad.