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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: yurcarmeean on June 22, 2015, 06:58:32 PM
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local motor vehicle fatality count at 6 lives this week including:
the 3 guys in the pickup truck on Maui last night
the lady jogger in marked crosswalk kalanianiole hwy
the guy who hit a biker by Straub
and the motorcyclists driving the wrong way on H1 by kahala
how many more accidents?
how many more lives and families must be ripped apart?
how many people need to lose their lives too early?
before we.....
ban those damn cars once and for all!
seriously though, people need to drive carefully
i'm a driver
i don't take the responsibility lightly
i check and double check
im ready to stop at any time
i study the road as far down as I can see down it and everything in between
presence of mind at all times
ready all the times
"if you stay ready, you aint got to get ready" a saying that i apply to every aspect of my life
driving is a privilege not a right, the privilege entails that the driver has the ability to yield or stop at any time
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car industry > gun industry
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There should be a two week waiting period each time you want to acquire a motor vehicle. There should be thorough background checks on all persons wanting to acquire a motor vehicle. All vehicles equipped with "high capacity" fuel tanks should be capped at 10 gals or less. all "mufflers" or "silencers" need to be removed from all vehicles, hitmen can sneak up on peeps and run them down silently! Motor vehicles should not be stored concealed inside closed garages, they need to have a CVP (concealed vehicle permit) issued by the chief on a "exceptional case" basis....
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the only thing that might be worse than losing your life in a car accident might be surviving one and having to live knowing you took someone else's.
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the only thing that might be worse than losing your life in a car accident might be surviving one and having to live knowing you took someone else's.
My neighbor across the street was run down by a retired Cop as she was jogging. It was about 7 PM, so just past sunset, and she was in a crosswalk. Her failure was running with an iPod and expecting the crosswalk and crossing signal to keep her safe.
Her husband was more angry at her for not being more careful than the driver who made a right turn on red. He was looking for traffic to his left, not pedestrians to his right.
It's all just a body count on the news until it's someone you've known for over a decade, watching their kids go from preschool to High School grads.
Here's the news on it ...
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28078394/family-of-killed-mililani-jogger-set-up-memorial-fund (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28078394/family-of-killed-mililani-jogger-set-up-memorial-fund)
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150209_Jogger_killed_in_Mililani_accident_identified.html?id=291301791 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150209_Jogger_killed_in_Mililani_accident_identified.html?id=291301791)
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ban on riding in pickup beds..because despite what happens people still do it...
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/29382408/triple-fatal-crash-has-law-enforcement-lawmakers-calling-for-tougher-pickup-truck-laws (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/29382408/triple-fatal-crash-has-law-enforcement-lawmakers-calling-for-tougher-pickup-truck-laws)
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My neighbor across the street was run down by a retired Cop as she was jogging.
There's no mention of the retired police officer in the news....
My condolences. She looks familiar as I run around that area on occasion.
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There's no mention of the retired police officer in the news....
My condolences. She looks familiar as I run around that area on occasion.
Your Google-fu is weak!
Try this link ...
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150226_Former_HPD_major_arrested_in_pedestrian_death_in_Mililani.html?id=294328341 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150226_Former_HPD_major_arrested_in_pedestrian_death_in_Mililani.html?id=294328341)
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It's all just a body count on the news until it's someone you've known for over a decade, watching their kids go from preschool to High School grads.
ya man stuffs been happening too close to home.
i think a lot of people dont realize that a lot of these vehicle related fatalities are gruesome and violent outcomes of mere carelessness. Its not just death, its a horrible way to die when thousands of pounds of metal meets flesh at even moderate speeds.
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Your Google-fu is weak!
Try this link ...
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150226_Former_HPD_major_arrested_in_pedestrian_death_in_Mililani.html?id=294328341 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150226_Former_HPD_major_arrested_in_pedestrian_death_in_Mililani.html?id=294328341)
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There should be a two week waiting period each time you want to acquire a motor vehicle. There should be thorough background checks on all persons wanting to acquire a motor vehicle. All vehicles equipped with "high capacity" fuel tanks should be capped at 10 gals or less. all "mufflers" or "silencers" need to be removed from all vehicles, hitmen can sneak up on peeps and run them down silently! Motor vehicles should not be stored concealed inside closed garages, they need to have a CVP (concealed vehicle permit) issued by the chief on a "exceptional case" basis....
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I love dark humor. It makes painful reality a little easier to live with.
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I have yet to see an effective way of preventing illegal vehicles out in the public nor preventing unlicensed drivers and people with licenses suspended behind the wheel of such vehicles out in the public. Don't get me started on the underground world of stolen cars and chop shops. As a car guy myself, I am glad Maui doesn't have that ridiculous Recon bull$hit. Funny thing is I read a lot of posts on a firearms forum about how; laws are followed by law abiding citizens and criminals just could care less until they get caught.
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My classmate was run over and killed by the Nissan Leaf! We need to ban those dangerous cars!
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Yesterday Friday July 3rd I was driving home on freeway, Ewa bound straightaway between the School St off ramp and School St on ramp kind of by Liliha/Pali Hwy, Liliha foodland Mcdonalds area on freeway.
Im in Left most lane of the freeway, the fast lane, all of a sudden in front of me I see one KINGS SIZE MATTRESS FLYING, upright, in the air, above all the cars, A MOMENT LATER I SEE ONE BOX SPRING TAKE FLIGHT. I immediately start to slow down, anticipating to stop. I actually thought it was going to cause a pile up on the freeway..... literally was like something out of a movie or a car insurance commercial. Unreal.
Everybody on freeway going 55-65 mph, everybody had to slow down, and the car in front of me came to a complete stop so I had to stop completely to avoid hitting him. Can you guess what happened next?
I GET REAR ENDED BY THE GUY BEHIND ME, heard the screech of his tires, then BOOM! he hits me. He couldn't stop in time. Unreal.
I get out the car, the stupid mattress owners tryna get their shit off the freeway, Me and the guy who hit me completely blocking left lane. NO ONE STOPS, everyone just keep on zooming by. The only damaged sustained by my car is an imprint of the guy's license plate left on my rear bumper, a divet left by his license plate cover screws. Nonetheless my insurance aint gonna cover anything less than my premium. So IM STUCK WITH A SCRATCHED BUMPER or THE BILL TO GET IT RE-Painted! I take care of my vehicle, I maintain it, a scratch is disheartening....
Thank god, because it felt worse, but goddamit it coulda been much better!
Those jackasses coulda secured their mattress correctly and the guy behind me should have saw it coming like I did !
These stupid f**ks never properly tied their king size mattress to their white pickup truck with rails, They used 2 pieces of rope, not straps, to secure mattress and box spring. And then they decided to drive 55 mph on freeway.
I got the pickup trucks license plate number but what good will that do?
Do we need to ban transporting mattresses on pickup trucks?
Or should we ban mattresses altogether?
Or should we ban stupid people?
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Yesterday Friday July 3rd I was driving home on freeway, Ewa bound straightaway between the School St off ramp and School St on ramp kind of by Liliha/Pali Hwy, Liliha foodland Mcdonalds area on freeway.
Im in Left most lane of the freeway, the fast lane, all of a sudden in front of me I see one KINGS SIZE MATTRESS FLYING, upright, in the air, above all the cars, A MOMENT LATER I SEE ONE BOX SPRING TAKE FLIGHT. I immediately start to slow down, anticipating to stop. I actually thought it was going to cause a pile up on the freeway..... literally was like something out of a movie or a car insurance commercial. Unreal.
Everybody on freeway going 55-65 mph, everybody had to slow down, and the car in front of me came to a complete stop so I had to stop completely to avoid hitting him. Can you guess what happened next?
I GET REAR ENDED BY THE GUY BEHIND ME, heard the screech of his tires, then BOOM! he hits me. He couldn't stop in time. Unreal.
I get out the car, the stupid mattress owners tryna get their shit off the freeway, Me and the guy who hit me completely blocking left lane. NO ONE STOPS, everyone just keep on zooming by. The only damaged sustained by my car is an imprint of the guy's license plate left on my rear bumper, a divet left by his license plate cover screws. Nonetheless my insurance aint gonna cover anything less than my premium. So IM STUCK WITH A SCRATCHED BUMPER or THE BILL TO GET IT RE-Painted! I take care of my vehicle, I maintain it, a scratch is disheartening....
Thank god, because it felt worse, but goddamit it coulda been much better!
Those jackasses coulda secured their mattress correctly and the guy behind me should have saw it coming like I did !
These stupid f**ks never properly tied their king size mattress to their white pickup truck with rails, They used 2 pieces of rope, not straps, to secure mattress and box spring. And then they decided to drive 55 mph on freeway.
I got the pickup trucks license plate number but what good will that do?
Do we need to ban transporting mattresses on pickup trucks?
Or should we ban mattresses altogether?
Or should we ban stupid people?
File a police report, get 2 estimates, and ask the police to look up the owner of the pickup for you. You can contact them through the mail and ask for reimbursement. If they refuse, it's not that much to file a civil case and get a judgement.
Even though there isn't any significant body damage, bumpers are made to compress on impact. If yours stayed compressed, it might need a body shop to extend it or even replace it. That could be a pain.
Even if your insurance covers the damage, you get dinged for the deductible and for costing the insurance company money.
And if the insurance company pays, you still want to ask for (sue for) reimbursement of the deductible.
Did you call the Cops? You should always call the Cops so there is an incident report for the insurance company with registration info for all vehicles involved.
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File a police report, get 2 estimates, and ask the police to look up the owner of the pickup for you. You can contact them through the mail and ask for reimbursement. If they refuse, it's not that much to file a civil case and get a judgement.
Even though there isn't any significant body damage, bumpers are made to compress on impact. If yours stayed compressed, it might need a body shop to extend it or even replace it. That could be a pain.
Even if your insurance covers the damage, you get dinged for the deductible and for costing the insurance company money.
And if the insurance company pays, you still want to ask for (sue for) reimbursement of the deductible.
Did you call the Cops? You should always call the Cops so there is an incident report for the insurance company with registration info for all vehicles involved.
Thanks MD :shaka:, i really appreciate you response
no the police were not called, maybe I should have, but in my experience i've been told by cops that minor fender benders dont require cop's assistance, especially if no bodily injury and no major property damage had occurred, just need to file a claim with insurance.
Also, We were in a dangerous situation blocking the left most lane on the freeway with cars whizzing by, I just wanted to get out of there, lest something worse happen, sitting there waiting for cops to come did not seem like a good idea at the time...
Hell, even as we jumped in our cars and began to move people were honking us, they clearly did not know what happened, a-holes....
looks like bumper soaked up most of the impact and popped back out, it was not compressed enough to leave a dent.
thankfully only damage was scratches to paint on bumper
as u said i will still be stuck with paying up to premium if i decide to have it repainted, etc.
plus taking it to a body shop costs TIME and hassle. I need to decide if is worth the trouble.....
I need to call my insurance agent to see what can be done, if need I will file a police report because the mattress guys were obviously driving unsafely.
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Thanks MD :shaka:, i really appreciate you response
no the police were not called, maybe I should have, but in my experience i've been told by cops that minor fender benders dont require cop's assistance, especially if no bodily injury and no major property damage had occurred, just need to file a claim with insurance.
Also, We were in a dangerous situation blocking the left most lane on the freeway with cars whizzing by, I just wanted to get out of there, lest something worse happen, sitting there waiting for cops to come did not seem like a good idea at the time...
Hell, even as we jumped in our cars and began to move people were honking us, they clearly did not know what happened, a-holes....
looks like bumper soaked up most of the impact and popped back out, it was not compressed enough to leave a dent.
thankfully only damage was scratches to paint on bumper
as u said i will still be stuck with paying up to premium if i decide to have it repainted, etc.
plus taking it to a body shop costs TIME and hassle. I need to decide if is worth the trouble.....
I need to call my insurance agent to see what can be done, if need I will file a police report because the mattress guys were obviously driving unsafely.
Just FYI, the guy that hit you from behind is at fault, his insurance will pay for your damage and your rates shouldn't go up. Hopefully you got the guys info. A word to the wise, ALWAYS get a police report, people will lie like hell to avoid responsibility, and I promise you, the first question from your insurance guy will be "Did you get a police report?" It's a pain in the ass, but will save you headaches in the long run. Ultimately it should fall on the mattress guy, but with no report it's going to be hard to prove.
I know this from experience.
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Just FYI, the guy that hit you from behind is at fault, his insurance will pay for your damage and your rates shouldn't go up. Hopefully you got the guys info. A word to the wise, ALWAYS get a police report, people will lie like hell to avoid responsibility, and I promise you, the first question from your insurance guy will be "Did you get a police report?" It's a pain in the ass, but will save you headaches in the long run. Ultimately it should fall on the mattress guy, but with no report it's going to be hard to prove.
I know this from experience.
thanks edster :shaka:
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My neighbor across the street was run down by a retired Cop as she was jogging. It was about 7 PM, so just past sunset, and she was in a crosswalk. Her failure was running with an iPod and expecting the crosswalk and crossing signal to keep her safe.
Her husband was more angry at her for not being more careful than the driver who made a right turn on red. He was looking for traffic to his left, not pedestrians to his right.
It's all just a body count on the news until it's someone you've known for over a decade, watching their kids go from preschool to High School grads.
Here's the news on it ...
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28078394/family-of-killed-mililani-jogger-set-up-memorial-fund (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28078394/family-of-killed-mililani-jogger-set-up-memorial-fund)
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150209_Jogger_killed_in_Mililani_accident_identified.html?id=291301791 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150209_Jogger_killed_in_Mililani_accident_identified.html?id=291301791)
Retired Honolulu Police Major arrested in connection with deadly Mililani accident
A retired Honolulu Police Major is in custody after being arrested in connection with a deadly accident that happened earlier this year, officials said Friday.
Charles Duncan is expected to be charged with second degree negligent homicide and was taken into custody Friday morning.
49-year-old Shari Afuso was jogging in Mililani on February 5 in a marked crosswalk, when she was suddenly struck by a Chevy pickup truck.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/30067868/retired-honolulu-police-major-arrested-in-connection-with-deadly-mililani-accident
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Reason why liberals don't push for ban on cars is they don't want to be inconvenienced, they give kaka about safety or for the keiki when it comes to their convenience. Whenever a tragic accident occurs, 95% focuses on the driver and not the vehicle. These same hypocrites always blame the gun first. Can you imagine the mayhem if every vehicle had to be brought to main HPD station for registration to verify the VIN by an officer? POVs like firearms are tools that can be used for good or bad and both are necessary in today's world.
True that you always need to get a police report, but once a young guy backed into my parked car and luckily my neighbor called 911 to report. In the end the kid had no current insurance and HPD told me you can't get blood from a stone. Luckily my car had minor damage mostly to the license plate and frame. I believe there's choke people driving with no insurance and probably don't even own the car. "Uh officer, the car belongs to my friend's uncle's friend's niece and they said I can drive it".
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Interesting as that is most always the case when I got hit while running in Mililani. Drivers always looking for other cars to the left so they can turn right...I got scraped a few weeks ago. Driver looked at me then left. No injuries. Just ego bruised.
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Interesting as that is most always the case when I got hit while running in Mililani. Drivers always looking for other cars to the left so they can turn right...I got scraped a few weeks ago. Driver looked at me then left. No injuries. Just ego bruised.
I was almost hit walking my dog in a crosswalk. The car at the light that just turned green facing us and to our left was waiting for traffic so she could turn left. As soon as the oncoming traffic cleared the intersection she hit the gas and left -- directly at us. She hit the brakes in time to not hit us, but her bumper was in the crosswalk as she sat diagonally blocking three lanes. She also gave me a mean look, like it was my fault for being in the street! :wtf:
I also saw a man almost his a lady in the crosswalk as he was turning right on red -- trying to accelerate in front of cars coming from his left.
Drivers are in too much of a hurry to stop and look around them. If they do, other drivers get impatient and try to go around or in front of them.
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Interesting as that is most always the case when I got hit while running in Mililani. Drivers always looking for other cars to the left so they can turn right...I got scraped a few weeks ago. Driver looked at me then left. No injuries. Just ego bruised.
This a perfect example of why my Mom was right. She taught me that you never, NEVER, step out in front of a car waiting to make a right turn at an intersection WITHOUT MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH THE DRIVER.
If you can't make eye contact, keep your ass on the curb until they've passed.
Better to be alive and delayed for a few seconds than dead, secure in the knowledge you had the right of way.
I've practiced this my entire life, and I've never even come close to being hit by a car at an intersection.
Common sense rocks.
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"BUT I HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY!!!"
"I WAS IN THE CROSSWALK!!!"
"THE DRIVER SHOULD'VE SEEN ME!!!"
Edsrers Mom is right. People need to be responsible for their own safety. Seems being right/correct is more important than being safe. The cost of being correct or right could be crippling or worse...
Watch "This Is Not A Cross Walk" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/ij8pZaQQmAs
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Im in Left most lane of the freeway, the fast lane, all of a sudden in front of me I see one KINGS SIZE MATTRESS FLYING, upright, in the air, above all the cars, A MOMENT LATER I SEE ONE BOX SPRING TAKE FLIGHT. I immediately start to slow down, anticipating to stop.
People forget how much "lift" there is on mattresses and 4X8 Masonite sheets and the like on top of a car at speed. They form pretty good airfoils like that. And of course the minute the front end gets lifted, more air can get under them.
Driving is a 110% job.
Drive 1/4 mile ahead of your car if possible.
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This a perfect example of why my Mom was right. She taught me that you never, NEVER, step out in front of a car waiting to make a right turn at an intersection WITHOUT MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH THE DRIVER.
Tell your mom I said thanks...
I still think we should ban cars, after all we already have them registered but we still can't manage them from killing and injuring people. Criminal use them. Criminals steal them. Those cars. In a nation like ours...when do we get it? There must be at least TWO cars for every household. As Americans when are we going to get it with this senseless machine that can kill? If we banned cars there won't be any grand theft auto crimes. Police wouldn't shoot people for trying to run them over. No more chop shops. We'd lose weight. The list of ramifications go on...
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This a perfect example of why my Mom was right. She taught me that you never, NEVER, step out in front of a car waiting to make a right turn at an intersection WITHOUT MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH THE DRIVER.
If you can't make eye contact, keep your ass on the curb until they've passed.
Better to be alive and delayed for a few seconds than dead, secure in the knowledge you had the right of way.
I've practiced this my entire life, and I've never even come close to being hit by a car at an intersection.
Common sense rocks.
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I got a story about eye contact...
I was crossing in the crosswalk with my very pregnant coworker.
Being a very protective person, I observed a driver trying to turn into the crosswalk while we were about 10ft into the crossing.
I looked directly at the driver and put my hand out to signal them to wait.
That new white mercedes stopped for a second, then drove right across our path.
It took me about 15 minutes to calm down and stop swearing.
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I got a story about eye contact...
I was crossing in the crosswalk with my very pregnant coworker.
Being a very protective person, I observed a driver trying to turn into the crosswalk while we were about 10ft into the crossing.
I looked directly at the driver and put my hand out to signal them to wait.
That new white mercedes stopped for a second, then drove right across our path.
It took me about 15 minutes to calm down and stop swearing.
I have a Navy buddy who has been known to dent cars with his size 12.5 boot as they roll through a crosswalk while someone is in it. If the driver is brave enough to confront an angry 280 lb, 6' 5" tree trunk who wasn't afraid of kicking a car, he tells the driver, "Why don't we call the Cops, and you can explain how we were both in the crosswalk at the same time!" That usually ends the confrontation!
Not saying that's the smart thing to do, but he has yet to lose a fight since high school! >:D
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People forget how much "lift" there is on mattresses and 4X8 Masonite sheets and the like on top of a car at speed. They form pretty good airfoils like that. And of course the minute the front end gets lifted, more air can get under them.
Driving is a 110% job.
Drive 1/4 mile ahead of your car if possible.
took off like a kite
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This a perfect example of why my Mom was right. She taught me that you never, NEVER, step out in front of a car waiting to make a right turn at an intersection WITHOUT MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH THE DRIVER.
If you can't make eye contact, keep your ass on the curb until they've passed.
Better to be alive and delayed for a few seconds than dead, secure in the knowledge you had the right of way.
I've practiced this my entire life, and I've never even come close to being hit by a car at an intersection.
Common sense rocks.
cannot stress eye contact enough
its the initial point of communication
dogs are smart enough to look at a human's eyes for direction
why not some of these humans?
oh yeah, because human's also have the ability to not give a f***