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Title: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: macsak on August 05, 2015, 07:24:49 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: Rocky on August 05, 2015, 08:18:08 PM
 :wave:
Nice  dentist defense comeback  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: edster48 on August 06, 2015, 05:15:41 AM
Great post. People in this country would crap their pants if they had to get close enough to a live lion to hit it with a bow.

Too much "Lion King" indeed.
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: oldfart on August 06, 2015, 05:43:17 AM
 :thumbsup:
Good article.
This whole cecil story is Bambiism run amok.
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: ren on August 06, 2015, 07:06:32 AM
We should lower the flag for Cecil....
#LionLivesMatter
#IAmCecil
#IWasOnAParkDontBaitMe!
#ImOnaReserveDontShoot!
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: macsak on August 06, 2015, 07:24:07 AM
We should lower the flag for Cecil....
#LionLivesMatter
#IAmCecil
#IWasOnAParkDontBaitMe!
#ImOnaReserveDontShoot!

how do we know cecil was really a 14 year old male lion?

maybe it was a gazelle that identified as the king of beasts

maybe it was a female lion on hormone treatments
if so, he/she should get a courage award from espn
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: Rocky on August 06, 2015, 09:47:50 AM
Rockette and I were in South Africa and saw lions in both reservation and in the wild.
We saw the reservation ones tear apart quarters of a horse from a caged truck but when we saw one in the wild UP CLOSE, it was kinda spooky.
Even though we had 2 armed guides, the feeling of being susceptible was like bobbing alone in the middle of the ocean. :shake:
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: PeaShooter on August 06, 2015, 04:08:10 PM
Interesting article, although I disagree with much of it.

One lion fewer to menace families like mine.

I don't have any personal liking or grudge towards lions, and I support the individual right to hate a species of animal, wish them dead, and try to make them dead, at least on your own property, and to a lesser extent your neighborhood and beyond.

But I think what sets this case apart is that: 1) this lion was part of a preserve, 2) was supposedly hunted in violation of the rules, 3) was of a semi-endangered sub-species. The article's author does not seem to acknowedge that.

PETA is calling for the hunter to be hanged.

I like most animals but I agree here that PETA is crap in general, and this is going too far. Assuming he is guilty of what he is accused, just ban this guy from ever hunting again or imprison him for a reasonable length of time.

Don’t tell us what to do with our animals when you allowed your own mountain lions to be hunted to near extinction in the eastern United States.

A fair point but the Zimbabwe government is also making just as much of a fuss. If the Zimbabwe government had said "Cecil was a menace, good riddance to him" this wouldn't have ever become a story.

Why Americans care more about African animals than about African people?...And please, don’t offer me condolences about Cecil unless you’re also willing to offer me condolences for villagers killed or left hungry...by political violence, or by hunger.

I've seen this said elsewhere as well and my response is screw you. It's someone's individual prerogative to like Cecil more than they like humans living in Zimbabwe. Or to at least feel that there is more point to supporting Cecil than there is to supporting hungry people in Zimbabwe. (Not saying I do personally).
Title: Re: in zimbabwe, we don't cry for lions
Post by: PeaShooter on August 24, 2015, 03:05:13 PM
Seems like all-out war now in Zimbabwe...

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/jericho-the-lion-cecil-brother-rival-cubs-shot-dead-zimbabwe-hunter-hunted-killed-dies-hwange-cubs-photos-video-walter-palmer-dentist/

http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/lion-kills-safari-guide-in-home-of-cecil-the-lion/#gH5JR501Umtc2uIy.97