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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on October 23, 2015, 07:16:04 AM
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An update on the 1911's...IT HAS PASSED THE SENATE! The legislation has passed both the House and Senate. It will now head to the President's desk for signature. If signed, we will meet with Army to develop procedures. All of this will take time. We have no further information. When information becomes available we will communicate with our customers.
Thank you, Mark Johnson, Chief Operating Officer
I already have one thanks to a shooting buddy here... :thumbsup:
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An update on the 1911's...IT HAS PASSED THE SENATE! The legislation has passed both the House and Senate. It will now head to the President's desk for signature. If signed, we will meet with Army to develop procedures. All of this will take time. We have no further information. When information becomes available we will communicate with our customers.
Thank you, Mark Johnson, Chief Operating Officer
I already have one thanks to a shooting buddy here... :thumbsup:
Thanks Ren!!! :thumbsup:
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I think it was part of the Defense Authorization Act that Obama vetoed. Still not a sure thing.
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I think it was part of the Defense Authorization Act that Obama vetoed. Still not a sure thing.
This was part of the Defense Authorization Act that was vetoed. No way they will get the 2/3rds needed to override it..
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Update on 1911's from the CMP...going to be $1,000 and up starting at Rack Grade. I've suddenly lost interest in them.
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2016/01/19/a-cmp-1911-update-from-cmp-chief-operating-officer-mark-johnson/
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I got mine for less and its accurized with NM parts. They are out there. Well, most people that buy CMP guns are collectors not shooters nowadays. At $1k theyd sell. Heck a few XM3s sold for over $15k.
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I agree I am disappointed in the pricing. I would be a buyer of a nice shooter of Field and/or Service Grades. I imagine the price is going to be similar to a very nice modern 1911. I suspect they will sell out quite quickly. I won't be a buyer at this price/grade.
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Update on 1911's from the CMP...going to be $1,000 and up starting at Rack Grade. I've suddenly lost interest in them.
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2016/01/19/a-cmp-1911-update-from-cmp-chief-operating-officer-mark-johnson/
I agree. I was interested in getting one as a shooter, not as a collectors item. :'(
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$1k.... meh. I really wanted a piece of history, but for that much... better to look on GB. What's up with CMP nowdays? My uncle said he got his M1 carbine for $25 back in the day.
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$1k.... meh. I really wanted a piece of history, but for that much... better to look on GB. What's up with CMP nowdays? My uncle said he got his M1 carbine for $25 back in the day.
I think the CMP has evolved into more of a commercial organization since the days it was created. Understandable. They still do a lot for the shooting community.
http://thecmp.org/competitions/talladega-marksmanship-park/ (http://thecmp.org/competitions/talladega-marksmanship-park/)
electronic scoring at Talladega
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a real world class range though I think the one in Kuwait is bigger.
(http://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/RangeImage.jpg)
(http://alabamaliving.coop/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/CMP_5.jpg)
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I think the CMP has evolved into more of a commercial organization since the days it was created. Understandable. They still do a lot for the shooting community.
http://thecmp.org/competitions/talladega-marksmanship-park/ (http://thecmp.org/competitions/talladega-marksmanship-park/)
electronic scoring at Talladega
(http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/149cf5512f918ebf-788x1024.jpg)
a real world class range though I think the one in Kuwait is bigger.
(http://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/RangeImage.jpg)
(http://alabamaliving.coop/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/CMP_5.jpg)
I'd spring for a $1k 1911 if they build one of those over here!! hehe :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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$1k.... meh. I really wanted a piece of history, but for that much... better to look on GB. What's up with CMP nowdays? My uncle said he got his M1 carbine for $25 back in the day.
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My dcm garand was $122
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My dcm garand was $122
Is that when a gallon of gas was $0.07?
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Is that when a gallon of gas was $0.07?
:rofl:
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It doesn't seem that long ago.
Re gas, I think that might have been around the time when gas was sold by the liter.
So it would have been about a buck a gallon.
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Re the 45s...who in their right mind would pay a g for one of those?
Unless it was a nice collector grade.
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It doesn't seem that long ago.
Re gas, I think that might have been around the time when gas was sold by the liter.
So it would have been about a buck a gallon.
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Re the 45s...who in their right mind would pay a g for one of those?
Unless it was a nice collector grade.
The $1K price range is the lowest quality and goes UP from there! Supposedly, the CMP cleans, repairs, adjusts and test fires all of them before grading and selling. At least you'll get one that is functional in the $1K/Rack category.
Personally, if I were a 1911 collector or was all nostalgic over something I used on active duty, maybe I'd be interested. New gun prices for old stock? I'll pass myself.
BTW, I do remember walking to the local gas station for a gallon of gas to feed the mower. I specifically remember the price was 25 cents, probably when I was 7 or 8. I took a quarter to pay, and normally a full gallon wouldn't fit the can, so I had 3-5 cents change for a piece of candy!
Yeah, those were the days! :D
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My recollection of gas prices were about $0.35 per gallon. I remember riding in the car with my father while he drove up and down the main strip near our home looking for a "Gas War". A gas war was a corner where there were either three or four gas stations and one lowered it's prices then the next and so on. Eventually they would put out a huge sign that said "Gas War!". :rofl:
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My recollection of gas prices were about $0.35 per gallon. I remember riding in the car with my father while he drove up and down the main strip near our home looking for a "Gas War". A gas war was a corner where there were either three or four gas stations and one lowered it's prices then the next and so on. Eventually they would put out a huge sign that said "Gas War!". :rofl:
The only gas wars I remember growing up were on Pinto Bean nights! :shake:
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25 cents per gallon of gas? I only remember when public school lunch was 25 cents. . . ;D
A while back, I looked into getting a 1903 from CMP. My dad had bought a 1903 and a Garand through CMP. I want to say they were around $300-500 ish. When I looked, 1903s were well over $700 for the (whatever grade was the shooter level).
His 1903 really is fun to shoot though!
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The only gas wars I remember growing up were on Pinto Bean nights! :shake:
Yeah, and we played covered wagon! :rofl:
Also, I remember all gas stations were full service stations. You never had to get out of your car. Then to save money one station offered no service pumps. And now we have no service gas stations. :(
I was really looking forward to buying one of these 1911's. I had no idea they were going to go for a grand for a rack grade. :wtf:
Guess I'll pick up a nice Kimber some day for the same price or less for a field grade, service grade or even a collector grade. :)
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Hey Inspector,
"Also, I remember all gas stations were full service stations. You never had to get out of your car. Then to save money one station offered no service pumps. And now we have no service gas stations. "
There is at one in Hilo and Honokaa. Private message me and I'll tell you how to get there
Quit hanging with Kona yuppies.
CMP prices are outrageous! I have a 1943 Rand with "pimp pearl" grips and a very good trigger
job, all original other than that. My dad left it to me. It is not worth much over $700.
My grandfather was a pilot in WWI ( that is WW one!)and
brought his 1911 home all original it is at my brothers collecting dust.
I carry it when I visit and go fishing( Alaska has big bears). That gun is VERY good
and I doubt anyone would pay more than $1100 for it.
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Hey Inspector,
"Also, I remember all gas stations were full service stations. You never had to get out of your car. Then to save money one station offered no service pumps. And now we have no service gas stations. "
There is at one in Hilo and Honokaa. Private message me and I'll tell you how to get there
Quit hanging with Kona yuppies.
CMP prices are outrageous! I have a 1943 Rand with "pimp pearl" grips and a very good trigger
job, all original other than that. My dad left it to me. It is not worth much over $700.
My grandfather was a pilot in WWI ( that is WW one!)and
brought his 1911 home all original it is at my brothers collecting dust.
I carry it when I visit and go fishing( Alaska has big bears). That gun is VERY good
and I doubt anyone would pay more than $1100 for it.
Hey FBI,
How could I tell you are FBI? From Big Island. :thumbsup:
I am currently on Oahu due to work. When I was living on the BI I was living on the Hilo side. Worked for Yamada and Sons. When I retire I am moving back. My wife and I miss the island and our family there.
I am really surprised at these prices. I wonder if they are doing it because they are only getting 10,000 at a time?
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I bought a service grade M1 through the CMP back in 2010, cost me $650. Sold it back in 2014 to a friend since I had acquired my Dad's M1, which he picked up in 1987 for $165. I still have all of the application and transfer paperwork from the Army for that rifle (H&R). Has that wonderful gray-green patina that is practically mirror smooth. I don't think the rifle was ever refinished in military service. :shaka:
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There are a few reasons why the prices have gone up. The Cmp is no longer funded by the government, higher admin costs, lack of surplus firearms and ammo to sell in the future, and resellers taking advantage of the low prices to make a profit.
It's also a different world now from when the Cmp offered cheap stuff to bring in new shooters. Newbies don't want m1 and 1911s.
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Got some clarification of the condition of some issued 1911s.
From the former CDR of the USAMU:
"The USAMU customized over 300 that were shipped to the 3rd SF Group for Afghan rotations.
All pistols we received were re-furbed or overhauled at Anniston Army Depot to standard issue condition, wrapped in grease paper in sealed vapor barrier bags. There were no "Rattle-trap" guns. Almost all had new slides, barrels, and small parts and all had been re-parkerized. If they were for immediate combat issue they came with Basic Issue Items (a green cotton magazine pouch for legacy pistol belts; three magazines; a cleaning kit; bore cleaner and LSA; and a lanyard).
Folks seem to think they'll look like neglected pawn shop guns or battlefield pickups.
They aren't returned lend-lease weapons."
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There are a few reasons why the prices have gone up. The Cmp is no longer funded by the government, higher admin costs, lack of surplus firearms and ammo to sell in the future, and resellers taking advantage of the low prices to make a profit.
It's also a different world now from when the Cmp offered cheap stuff to bring in new shooters. Newbies don't want m1 and 1911s.
Technically I'm a gun newb (it's in the name ;) ), but I've always been fascinated with the 1911...thanks mostly to The History Channel. I shot an RIA1911-9MM at the November FunShoot and it was AMAZING!
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