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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: Tom_G on December 30, 2015, 01:14:42 PM

Title: Fire not from your car!
Post by: Tom_G on December 30, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
This came up in a hunting thread, but I thought I'd single it out since we're talking about laws:

Quote from: HAR13-122-12(c)(4)
No person shall have or carry any loaded firearm or loaded archery equipment on horseback, in any vehicle, boat, or any other carrier or discharge any firearm or archery device from any carrier, except for disabled hunters with a valid permit to do so. It is also illegal for any hunter to discharge any firearm or archery device into a public hunting area from outside the hunting area.

Quote from: HAR13-123-22(d)(4)
No person shall have or carry any loaded weapon on horseback, in any vehicle, boat, or any other carrier or discharge any weapon from any carrier. It is also illegal for any hunter to discharge any weapon into a public hunting area from outside the hunting area.

So, at least with respect to the hunting laws, it's illegal to fire a firearm or archery device from any carrier, at least for most of us.  Since this is buried in the hunting laws, though, is it generalizable to other scenarios?
Title: Re: Fire not from your car!
Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 30, 2015, 02:06:06 PM
So does this basically outlaw firearms being loaded on a houseboat? What if you are out at sea? I cannot remember what the answer was about people owning firearms on houseboats but I thought it was legal
Title: Re: Fire not from your car!
Post by: dirtylickins on December 30, 2015, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on December 30, 2015, 02:06:06 PM
So does this basically outlaw firearms being loaded on a houseboat? What if you are out at sea? I cannot remember what the answer was about people owning firearms on houseboats but I thought it was legal
well let's see... I guess we ask the question is the house boat a carrier, boat, or vehicle? At this point we can eliminate horseback. As per the har13 it say " Any" so is the house boat "Any" of these?
Title: Re: Fire not from your car!
Post by: Tom_G on December 30, 2015, 11:43:22 PM
Huh, I just noticed that there are exemptions for disabled hunters of game birds (HAR 122) but not for disabled hunters of game mammals (HAR 123). 
Title: Re: Fire not from your car!
Post by: HiCarry on January 15, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on December 30, 2015, 02:06:06 PM
So does this basically outlaw firearms being loaded on a houseboat? What if you are out at sea? I cannot remember what the answer was about people owning firearms on houseboats but I thought it was legal
No, it doesn't. Unless said "houseboat" is used for hunting and within a designated hunting area.
Title: Re: Fire not from your car!
Post by: Rocky on January 15, 2016, 01:02:58 PM
Quote from: Tom_G on December 30, 2015, 11:43:22 PM
Huh, I just noticed that there are exemptions for disabled hunters of game birds (HAR 122) but not for disabled hunters of game mammals (HAR 123).
I think "disabled" hunters of mammals are allowed cross bows.