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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: armsinc on February 18, 2016, 09:14:01 PM

Title: IS this for real.. and is it legal
Post by: armsinc on February 18, 2016, 09:14:01 PM

is this real and can i own it legally

they claim it is 50 state legal

Black Aces Tactical

http://www.blackacestactical.com/

http://www.ammoland.com/2015/05/black-aces-tactical-releases-groundbreaking-new-short-barrel-12-gauge/#axzz40axZaHA2

Title: Re: IS this for real.. and is it legal
Post by: Q on February 19, 2016, 12:43:19 AM

Quote from: armsinc on February 18, 2016, 09:14:01 PM

is this real and can i own it legally

they claim it is 50 state legal

Black Aces Tactical

http://www.blackacestactical.com/

http://www.ammoland.com/2015/05/black-aces-tactical-releases-groundbreaking-new-short-barrel-12-gauge/#axzz40axZaHA2

Legal, but no shouldering stock

Title: Re: IS this for real.. and is it legal
Post by: Aegis808 on February 19, 2016, 01:19:06 AM

yes, 100% legal according to the ATF

Title: Re: IS this for real.. and is it legal
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 19, 2016, 06:38:05 AM

I don't think it is legal according to Hawaii law though which defines a minimum length for a shotgun as 18 inches. Hawaii law fails to actually define what a shotgun is though.

Title: Re: IS this for real.. and is it legal
Post by: jaynick on February 19, 2016, 08:30:48 AM

Quote from: eyeeatingfish on February 19, 2016, 06:38:05 AM

I don't think it is legal according to Hawaii law though which defines a minimum length for a shotgun as 18 inches. Hawaii law fails to actually define what a shotgun is though.

i think the whole point is it doesnt fall under shotgun.
it would be classified as 'AOW'

theres a pistol grip mossberg 500 with a 14" barrel that is also supposed to be legal. it cost like 300 more than a regular mossberg 500.

Title: Re: IS this for real.. and is it legal
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 20, 2016, 12:01:57 AM

Quote from: jaynick on February 19, 2016, 08:30:48 AM

i think the whole point is it doesnt fall under shotgun.
it would be classified as 'AOW'

theres a pistol grip mossberg 500 with a 14" barrel that is also supposed to be legal. it cost like 300 more than a regular mossberg 500.

Maybe not under federal law but state law does not get into much in the way of specifics.

Title: Re: IS this for real.. and is it legal
Post by: punaperson on February 02, 2017, 11:14:18 AM

Could anyone on Oahu, where they have supposedly been registered, or any other island please provide me with either 1. documentation that such a weapon (pistol grip, overall length greater than 26", barrel 14" (or anything under 18"), fires shotgun shells) has been registered (feel free to redact any personal information), and/or 2. any documentation or anecdotes about inquiring into the legality of such a firearm and the response of any Hawaii Police Department (especially Honolulu)?

I'd appreciate it.  :shaka:

Example:

Mossberg 590 Shockwave

(https://gastatic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-30-at-1.32.20-PM.png)