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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: Heavies on February 24, 2016, 11:45:16 PM

Title: Onerous bills being pushed through FIRE MISSION
Post by: Heavies on February 24, 2016, 11:45:16 PM


February 24, 2016
   
 
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 [/size]3 anti-gun bills up for hearing Friday in F-rated Karl Rhoads' JUD Committee
 
 
Click on any bill number and submit testimony on all three from that web page.
 
 
[color=#0000ff!important]House Bill 1813 (http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=37398965&msgid=452010&act=83UU&c=431956&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitol.hawaii.gov%2Fmeasure_indiv.aspx%3Fbilltype%3DHB%26billnumber%3D1813%26year%3D2016)[/color] [/size]
 
 
Prohibits a person listed in the federal Terrorist Screening Database from owning, possessing, or controlling a firearm or ammunition.
 
 
HRA is STRONGLY OPPOSED to this bill because there are many people who have been put on to this list that did not belong on the list and getting off the list is next to impossible, even for an innocent person. Persons can be placed on this list who have not been adjudicated with any of the disqualifying characteristics spelled out in HRS 134. There is NO DUE PROCESS exhibited in this bill and would remove a persons Constitutional rights without adjudication. We could support this measure if it were amended such that PROOF of disqualifying crimes or mental conditions were investigated by HPD and presented to the applicant at the time of permit denial, not merely the applicant's appearance on this often erroneous list.
 
 
[color=#0000ff!important]House Bill 626 (http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=37398965&msgid=452010&act=83UU&c=431956&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitol.hawaii.gov%2Fmeasure_indiv.aspx%3Fbilltype%3DHB%26billnumber%3D626)[/color][/size]
 
 
Prohibits the physical possession of any firearm while consuming or under the influence of an intoxicant.[/b]
 
 
STRONGLY OPPOSED. HB 626 is aimed at individuals who "recklessly possess a firearm while intoxicated."  The problem with this bill lies in the broad definition of “possession” which could possibly extend to a firearm that isn’t actually in one’s possession but nearby or accessible in one’s home.  For example, an individual who has come home from having a few drinks with friends and goes to bed next to a nightstand containing a loaded self-defense gun, could be charged with a crime. Likewise, "intoxication" is not defined. 
 
 
HB2201 (http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=37398965&msgid=452010&act=83UU&c=431956&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitol.hawaii.gov%2Fmeasure_indiv.aspx%3Fbilltype%3DHB%26billnumber%3D2201)[/font][/color][/b][/size]
 
 
STRONGLY OPPOSED.  Denies a judge the option to accept a no contest plea in family violence cases instead of conviction.  A person would lose gun rights forever if convicted of as little as sending unwelcome texts to a girl friend, with no recourse short of a Governor's pardon to regain rights. 
 
 
 
 
DEADLINE TO SUBMIT TESTIMONY:  02-25-16 2:00PM
 
 
                        MAHALO,

 HARVEY GERWIG, LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, HRA
Title: Re: Onerous bills being pushed through FIRE MISSION
Post by: MauiLeatherwork on February 25, 2016, 07:11:35 AM
Submitted concise testimony on all 3.  Thank you for the important post.  What an awful legislative season!
Title: Re: Onerous bills being pushed through FIRE MISSION
Post by: pantyhamster on February 25, 2016, 07:59:26 AM
What an awful legislative season!

Submitted testimony too.

Don't know how many (if any) listen to Rick Hamada in the morning on AM-830.  Someone called in and asked why our legislators introduce and pass such stupid bills.  His answer (which I agree with) was "Because they can". "They can do anything they like and know that they will still get re-elected"
It's a sad state of affairs that no matter what we say or try to do the same people keep getting re-elected over and over and short of taking someones life, they can do whatever they like and there are no consequences.  Example: Ron Menor. DUI, lied about it and still got re-elected. That's just one example.
 :wtf:

Title: Re: Onerous bills being pushed through FIRE MISSION
Post by: MuffinMan on February 25, 2016, 08:01:26 AM
Submitted testimony too.

Don't know how many (if any) listen to Rick Hamada in the morning on AM-830.  Someone called in and asked why our legislators introduce and pass such stupid bills.  His answer (which I agree with) was "Because they can". "They can do anything they like and know that they will still get re-elected"
It's a sad state of affairs that no matter what we say or try to do the same people keep getting re-elected over and over and short of taking someones life, they can do whatever they like and there are no consequences.  Example: Ron Menor. DUI, lied about it and still got re-elected. That's just one example.
 :wtf:

I listen, and agree.
Frustrating......
Title: Re: Onerous bills being pushed through FIRE MISSION
Post by: Tom_G on February 25, 2016, 09:29:27 AM
Wow, the system is soooooo sloooowwwww right now!