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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: Jl808 on April 19, 2016, 05:56:03 PM

Title: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: Jl808 on April 19, 2016, 05:56:03 PM

S 4/19/2016: Conference committee meeting scheduled for 04-21-16 8:30AM in conference room 312.

HB2632 HD2 SD2   Firearms Disqualification; Mental Illness; Police   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Requires firearms owners who have been disqualified from owning a firearm and ammunition due to a diagnosis of significant behavioral, emotional, or mental disorder or for treatment for organic brain syndromes, or due to emergency or involuntary hospitalization, to immediately surrender their firearms and ammunition to the Chief of Police. Requires the chief of police to seize firearms and ammunition if a disqualified individual fails to surrender the firearms and ammunition and the person receives notice of disqualification. (SD2)
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 20, 2016, 07:17:42 AM
Are they allowing public input this time?
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: Jl808 on April 20, 2016, 08:16:04 AM
Are they allowing public input this time?

I don't think so.
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: Heavies on April 20, 2016, 08:36:23 AM
email you reps and conference members directly
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: surfmaster on April 20, 2016, 09:05:07 AM

Now this is just plain silly:

"...or due to emergency or involuntary hospitalization, to immediately surrender their firearms and ammunition to the Chief of Police. ..."

Why is someone who experiences an unexpected health issue like a heart attack or stroke automatically deemed ineligible to own a firearm? Again, why is someone guilty until proven innocent?

The legislators need to explain their thinking and justify why they want people who need to go to the hospital to surrender their guns. Sounds like just another way to limit our rights.

Come one, pass some bills that will make a real dent in crime.   
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: punaperson on April 20, 2016, 01:58:13 PM
Now this is just plain silly:

"...or due to emergency or involuntary hospitalization, to immediately surrender their firearms and ammunition to the Chief of Police. ..."

Why is someone who experiences an unexpected health issue like a heart attack or stroke automatically deemed ineligible to own a firearm? Again, why is someone guilty until proven innocent?

The legislators need to explain their thinking and justify why they want people who need to go to the hospital to surrender their guns. Sounds like just another way to limit our rights.

Come one, pass some bills that will make a real dent in crime.
This bill has been through various committees in both houses of the legislature. It has been pointed out to the various committee members that they could clarify and limit the application of the proposed law if they added the wording (in bold): "...or due to emergency or involuntary hospitalization as a result of a mental health issue, to immediately surrender their firearms and ammunition to the Chief of Police. ...". Not that that change would address the "due process" issues, but they have chosen not to amend the wording. Why not? What would they have to gain by leaving it so open ended? The language is simple and clear, and they are intent on leaving it exactly as it is. Our "public servants" making sure "the people" know their place.
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: stangzilla on April 20, 2016, 05:15:08 PM
emails sent.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160420/hawaii-anti-gun-bills-moving-through-conference-committee-process
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: Jl808 on April 20, 2016, 05:51:33 PM
Hawaii Rifle Association
State Affiliate of the National Rifle Association - Founded in 1857
April 20, 2016

House Bill, HB 2632, Emergency hospitalization requiring removal of firearms, is scheduled for a Conference Committee meeting tomorrow, Thursday, April 21, at 8:30 a.m. The bill results in immediate removal of an individuals firearms for any emergency hospitalization.  Please contact the Conference Committee members and ask them to oppose the bill:  Representatives Belatti/Rhoads, Co-Chairs; C. Lee, Ward and Senators Nishihara, Chair; Keith-Agaran, Co-Chair; Espero.
 
Clicking on the link to the NRA website and then clicking on the Take Action button is an easy way to contact all of the Conference Committee members with one message:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160420/hawaii-anti-gun-bills-moving-through-conference-committee-process
 
Or, you can contact each Conference Committee member directly, the website below provides legislator contact information:
 http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/members/legislators.aspx?chamber=all

Senate Bill, SB 2954, Rapback was heard in Conference Committee today.  The Senate Conference Managers (Senators Nishihara, Keith-Agaran,Espero) recommended that the Senate agree to the House amendments.

MAHALO,
HARVEY GERWIG, LEGISLATIVE LIAISON and PRESIDENT, HRA
EMAIL:  HGHAWAII@GMAIL.COM,    PHONE:  (808) 306-7194
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: mako511 on April 21, 2016, 12:05:07 AM
emails sent.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160420/hawaii-anti-gun-bills-moving-through-conference-committee-process


Done and sent...
Title: Re: HB2632 (Firearms Disq; Mental Ill.; Police) Conf Commitee 4-21-2016 8:30a Rm 312
Post by: Gordyf on April 21, 2016, 05:43:34 AM
Sent!