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Title: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Inspector on May 10, 2016, 01:55:53 PM
I will be travelling back to the mainland soon and when I return I want to bring my 11 pounds of ammo back with me. Here are my questions:

1. Is it 11 pounds per person or per bag?
2. Do I have to declare it like I would a firearm?
3. Will they actually weigh it separately from my baggage? Reason I ask is that 3 bricks of .22 ammo is 11.25 pounds. I would sure hate to have to break up a brick and leave some behind when the weight is so close.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: dustoff003 on May 10, 2016, 02:22:58 PM
I will be travelling back to the mainland soon and when I return I want to bring my 11 pounds of ammo back with me. Here are my questions:

1. Is it 11 pounds per person or per bag?
2. Do I have to declare it like I would a firearm?
3. Will they actually weigh it separately from my baggage? Reason I ask is that 3 bricks of .22 ammo is 11.25 pounds. I would sure hate to have to break up a brick and leave some behind when the weight is so close.

Thanks!

4.You may check in up to 11 lbs of ammunition per passenger, packed separately from your unloaded firearms in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes. Loose or bulk packaging in bags or boxes will not be accepted.
http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/677/~/special-items---shooting-equipment

ii.Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood, or metal boxes.
https://www.hawaiianairlines.com/legal/domestic-contract-of-carriage/195-conditions-and-charges-for-acceptance-of-special-items

1) 11 pounds per traveler unless Alaska Airlines then they allow 50 pounds
2) no declaration required as a courtesy you can tell them you have ammo in your checked luggage
3) they reserve the right to weigh the ammo separately

My theory is 11.25 is not 12 pounds so you are still in the 11 pound range and good to go. It is doubtful that your ammo will be weighed at the counter, I have only been asked the weight and occasionally they will take a glance to ensure its in the correct packaging. Most counter people will not know their airlines policies regarding ammo so it would help to have a copy of it with you. Happy Travels
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Inspector on May 10, 2016, 02:27:00 PM
ii.Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood, or metal boxes.
https://www.hawaiianairlines.com/legal/domestic-contract-of-carriage/195-conditions-and-charges-for-acceptance-of-special-items

1) 11 pounds per traveler unless Alaska Airlines then they allow 50 pounds
2) no declaration required as a courtesy you can tell them you have ammo in your checked luggage
3) they reserve the right to weigh the ammo separately

My theory is 11.25 is not 12 pounds so you are still in the 11 pound range and good to go. It is doubtful that your ammo will be weighed at the counter, I have only been asked the weight and occasionally they will take a glance to ensure its in the correct packaging. Most counter people will not know their airlines policies regarding ammo so it would help to have a copy of it with you. Happy Travels
Great! Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: dustoff003 on May 10, 2016, 02:28:54 PM
Great! Thanks!!!

I just added some more probably while you were quoting me.
 
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Inspector on May 10, 2016, 02:42:06 PM
I just added some more probably while you were quoting me.
Got it all. Thanks again!!!
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: London808 on May 10, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
DAM, i am only flying Alaskan from now on. 50lb of ammo per person LOL, i hope my cloths fit in my wife's bag
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: 83rdrecon on May 10, 2016, 03:54:14 PM
Fly Alaska. They allow up to 50lbs ammo according to their website
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Inspector on May 10, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
Fly Alaska. They allow up to 50lbs ammo according to their website
I already have the tickets for Hawaiian.  :(
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: zippz on May 10, 2016, 05:29:35 PM
I do the courtesy notification at the counter.  They never weighed my ammo.  Once they did want to see it so I showed it to them and they were like "uh okay".
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: RSN172 on May 10, 2016, 05:45:22 PM
All the times I flew with ammo on HAWAIIAN, they only asked how much I had, never weighed it or even looked at it.
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Heavies on May 10, 2016, 06:19:24 PM
All the times I flew with ammo on HAWAIIAN, they only asked how much I had, never weighed it or even looked at it.

"How much ammo do you got?........."   Um..........eleven pounds...........  :)

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx22/bigsaxyone/IMAG1354_zpsda161d4f.jpg)


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Surf on May 10, 2016, 11:01:23 PM
Just returned today via Hawaiian.  Outbound leg I notified them of ammunition.  My line is "I have ammunition only in my suitcase".  It is in factory boxes weighing under 11lbs.  Check in guy looked confused and he asked to look at thw ammo and that he needed to weigh the ammo.

I took the 6 boxes of 5.56, about 7lbs out of the suitcase.  With a confused look he asked if that was it.  I said yep that's it.  He then started reading the box and weighed them.  I think he may have experience with people going way over and was surprised that was all I had.  I should have told him that was all I had and that I wasn't one of those wacko's. ;)
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Hawaii On Target on May 10, 2016, 11:48:28 PM
4.You may check in up to 11 lbs of ammunition per passenger, packed separately from your unloaded firearms in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes. Loose or bulk packaging in bags or boxes will not be accepted.
http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/677/~/special-items---shooting-equipment (http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/677/~/special-items---shooting-equipment)

ii.Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood, or metal boxes.
https://www.hawaiianairlines.com/legal/domestic-contract-of-carriage/195-conditions-and-charges-for-acceptance-of-special-items (https://www.hawaiianairlines.com/legal/domestic-contract-of-carriage/195-conditions-and-charges-for-acceptance-of-special-items)

1) 11 pounds per traveler unless Alaska Airlines then they allow 50 pounds
2) no declaration required as a courtesy you can tell them you have ammo in your checked luggage
3) they reserve the right to weigh the ammo separately

My theory is 11.25 is not 12 pounds so you are still in the 11 pound range and good to go. It is doubtful that your ammo will be weighed at the counter, I have only been asked the weight and occasionally they will take a glance to ensure its in the correct packaging. Most counter people will not know their airlines policies regarding ammo so it would help to have a copy of it with you. Happy Travels


I believe you do need to declare ammo.


https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition (https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition)



You may transport unloaded firearms in a locked hard-sided container as checked baggage only. Declare the firearm and/or ammunition to the airline when checking your bag at the ticket counter. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed.
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: dustoff003 on May 11, 2016, 10:21:52 AM

I believe you do need to declare ammo.


https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition (https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition)



You may transport unloaded firearms in a locked hard-sided container as checked baggage only. Declare the firearm and/or ammunition to the airline when checking your bag at the ticket counter. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed.
I will reserve my comments of and about the TSA...
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: Inspector on May 11, 2016, 10:25:38 AM
"How much ammo do you got?........."   Um..........eleven pounds...........  :)

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx22/bigsaxyone/IMAG1354_zpsda161d4f.jpg)


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Getting ready for the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE?   :shake: :shake: :shake:
Title: Re: Questions Regarding Bringing Back Ammo on Hawaiian Airlines
Post by: armsinc on May 11, 2016, 11:59:47 AM
It's a crap shoot I have had them weigh it and  other times they made me and the Ms combined our ammo to one bag with 22lb of ammo.  And on bag with 5 or 6 firearms inside. I had one time it was 11lb and change and the guy told me to "throwaway some bullets" in the trash can at the airport.... I had one time where I had to chamber check my firearms and the lady behind the counter required me to put the firearms on the counter (her back was sore) and she grabbed my ak underfolder and looked down the barrel ???  All on hawaiian and in Hawaii.... now states where firearms are more common they are reasonable and the tsa just checks the case. Arizona they just take you to tsa.

But do declare it.... good luck