Post by: London808 on June 29, 2016, 04:53:20 PM
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Post by: ren on June 29, 2016, 05:18:21 PM
Post by: oldfart on June 29, 2016, 06:16:48 PM
In case you are unfamiliar with the process, I do have an open invitation to the 2A brothers to come to my house to get a little education.
Post by: London808 on June 29, 2016, 07:01:21 PM
Congratulations on your purchase.
In case you are unfamiliar with the process, I do have an open invitation to the 2A brothers to come to my house to get a little education.
I drooped into WGS and my intention was to just check ammo prices, I have whatched a few reloading videos and such and have been interested, but you walk into the store and the first thing you see is a bunch of presses setup and supplies everywhere. So i start asking questions and next think i know im getting a full tutorial, they helped me setup my press and walked me through each step. First class service.
That being said im definitely up for some learning and will hit you up for some edjamaction.
Post by: suka on June 29, 2016, 07:18:08 PM
Post by: oldfart on June 29, 2016, 07:44:43 PM
Anyone locally knows about making wildcats and fired form brass?...
I've done 38.45 clerke. That's about it.
Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 11:24:40 AM
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Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
ok so i just made/pressed my first lot, and i have a couple questions, When seating primers some of them flipped over or turned sideways. What causes this and can i just de prime them to get them out ?...
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Sorry, I don't have that lee primer feeder thing.
But usually, flipped primers are caused by something snagging in the feed system.
Causing the primer to jump around while moving into position.
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Re. Depriming upside downprimer, the correct answer is NO.
but I have done it in the past by moving the handle very slowly.
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What did you put in your ammo?
Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 01:53:39 PM
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Sorry, I don't have that lee primer feeder thing.
But usually, flipped primers are caused by something snagging in the feed system.
Causing the primer to jump around while moving into position.
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Re. Depriming upside downprimer, the correct answer is NO.
but I have done it in the past by moving the handle very slowly.
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What did you put in your ammo?
Ramshot True blue 4.8 grains (autodisk .32) and 115g Hornady FMJ RN bullets
Post by: Mynah on June 30, 2016, 02:39:21 PM
GL
Post by: whynow? on June 30, 2016, 02:44:25 PM
O.F. knows his stuff.
Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 04:05:02 PM
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Ramshot True blue 4.8 grains (autodisk .32) and 115g Hornady FMJ RN bullets
Hmmm...
Ramshot recommends closer to 6 grains of true blue for that weight of bullet.
True blue is a slower burning propellant better suited for high pressure high velocity loads.
You might get weak ejection and/or dirty burn. Like unburnt powder.
See the pdf file attached.
Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 04:16:57 PM
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Hmmm...
Ramshot recommends closer to 6 grains of true blue for that weight of bullet.
True blue is a slower burning propellant better suited for high pressure high velocity loads.
You might get weak ejection and/or dirty burn. Like unburnt powder.
See the pdf file attached.
I was going by the sheet that came with my dies + what i was told in the store ? old/wrong info ?
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Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 04:23:55 PM
Post by: Heavies on June 30, 2016, 04:31:46 PM
Don't load up so many. Load only a few of each charge weight with small incremental increase in charge until you find the load that has the balance between speed and accuracy.
Also do research on signs of over pressure in the primer and case. If you come across these signs in your test ammo stop the load at that point.
Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
I was going by the sheet that came with my dies + what i was told in the store ? old/wrong info ?....
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Well, let's just say that you won't blow yourself up at 4.8 gr. :rofl:
Just save that pdf file from the powder manufacturer for future reference.
It would be good to have a powder scale to confirm the actual weight.
Drop by my house some time.
Post by: Heavies on June 30, 2016, 04:34:49 PM
Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 04:47:48 PM
One thing is you need to test loads to see which will work best for you. The data given is a minimum (ie won't squib the barrel) and max (ie won't blow you up). Somewhere in between is the load your gun will like.....
Don't load up so many. Load only a few of each charge weight with small incremental increase in charge until you find the load that has the balance between speed and accuracy.
Also do research on signs of over pressure in the primer and case. If you come across these signs in your test ammo stop the load at that point.
Agreed.
However you will find that load data from different sources can differ greatly.
So I typically research several sources to see if there is some general consensus before starting a project.
Obviously, the powder manufacturers are a really, really good place to start looking.
The internet makes things so easy nowadays.
Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 05:08:49 PM
Post by: K30l4 on June 30, 2016, 05:49:56 PM
I now use the Dillon 550b. The Press is great. I was one of the lucky ones that got a free 550b for taking a survey in April. Caliber changes on the 550b is much more expensive. All in all, I still believe the turret press is the best buy for the cost of components.
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Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 06:14:49 PM
Yeah i was only going to do a few just to see how everything goes together and an hour latter i was done lol. Once i got into a rhythm i just kind of lost track of time and space...
Congrats on jumping into it :thumbsup:
I presume your wife has figured it out by now.
"But honey, look how much money I can save!"
Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 06:18:30 PM
I now use the Dillon 550b. The Press is great. I was one of the lucky ones that got a free 550b for taking a survey in April. Caliber changes on the 550b is much more expensive. All in all, I still believe the turret press is the best buy for the cost of components....
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Post by: K30l4 on June 30, 2016, 06:23:45 PM
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Me2
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Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 06:49:54 PM
Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
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Congrats on jumping into it :thumbsup:
I presume your wife has figured it out by now.
"But honey, look how much money I can save!"
HELL NO, i took that shit right into my office and closed the door. Its currently bolted to one of my desks until i build out a real space (i want to put it on my deck (covered) but im worried about moisture and weather) My garage i think is a non starter because its open to the street.
Post by: macsak on June 30, 2016, 06:55:58 PM
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Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 06:59:04 PM
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HELL NO, i took that shit right into my office and closed the door. Its currently bolted to one of my desks until i build out a real space (i want to put it on my deck (covered) but im worried about moisture and weather) My garage i think is a non starter because its open to the street.
Ooooh wow
So it's like your secret girlfriend. :rofl:
Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
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Ooooh wow
So it's like your secret girlfriend. :rofl:
Its not a secret as such, shes been in my office a few times today and hasent noticed the shiny red thing bolted to my desk, Give it a week or so and she will be so used to it she will think its always been there
Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 08:08:50 PM
Its not a secret as such, shes been in my office a few times today and hasent noticed the shiny red thing bolted to my desk, Give it a week or so and she will be so used to it she will think its always been there...
Lol.
Good luck with that.
If she gets curious, you could say it will help save money so it was worth the expenditure.
Deny any wrongdoing. Tell her that your friends recommend it so you just followed their advice.
Say that it will help you become more skillful by allowing you to practice more often.
That extra skill will make your family safer.
Think like a politician. Spin it hard.
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Post by: London808 on June 30, 2016, 09:11:28 PM
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Lol.
Good luck with that.
If she gets curious, you could say it will help save money so it was worth the expenditure.
Deny any wrongdoing. Tell her that your friends recommend it so you just followed their advice.
Say that it will help you become more skillful by allowing you to practice more often.
That extra skill will make your family safer.
Think like a politician. Spin it hard.
:rofl:
And if in doubt buy her something of equal or greater value :geekdanc:
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Post by: oldfart on June 30, 2016, 09:56:14 PM
It was housed where the skeet range is today.
I don't know what happened to it.
You can see it in this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iodwoehig-c
Post by: Rocky on July 01, 2016, 08:42:18 AM
London good time to buy reloading stuff and start into reloading in case of upcoming restrictive ammo laws. Many people have that press.
O.F. knows his stuff.
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Post by: asinapple8805 on July 01, 2016, 10:36:45 AM
i also prime all of my cases by hand so i don't end up with flipped primers
Post by: Heavies on July 01, 2016, 02:55:04 PM
The Lee manual primer pans that I have are pretty good about putting the primer on the seater correct side up. The only issues I ever have with them is that when it gets down to the last 1 or 2 primers it gets sticky and doesn't want to let them out.
Post by: London808 on July 01, 2016, 05:54:01 PM
Can you better explain the flipped primer issue you were having?
The Lee manual primer pans that I have are pretty good about putting the primer on the seater correct side up. The only issues I ever have with them is that when it gets down to the last 1 or 2 primers it gets sticky and doesn't want to let them out.
The primer drops into the seater just fine, when I raise the knob to seat the primer something is causing a small number of them to flip, out of 100 8 were upside down or sideways
Post by: Heavies on July 01, 2016, 07:40:27 PM
The primer drops into the seater just fine, when I raise the knob to seat the primer something is causing a small number of them to flip, out of 100 8 were upside down or sideways
Huum.... That is strange. All I can think of is may be a piece of cleaning media is on the seater? Or the large seater is in there instead of the small primer seater? or the cup that holds them is a little too large out of spec? Once the primer is inside that cup in the correct orientation, it is very difficult for it to flip or turn.
Post by: London808 on July 01, 2016, 09:00:44 PM
Huum.... That is strange. All I can think of is may be a piece of cleaning media is on the seater? Or the large seater is in there instead of the small primer seater? or the cup that holds them is a little too large out of spec? Once the primer is inside that cup in the correct orientation, it is very difficult for it to flip or turn.
Will video it next time I'm reloading so can see
Post by: Rocky on July 02, 2016, 06:58:22 AM
Huum.... That is strange. All I can think of is may be a piece of cleaning media is on the seater? Or the large seater is in there instead of the small primer seater? or the cup that holds them is a little too large out of spec? Once the primer is inside that cup in the correct orientation, it is very difficult for it to flip or turn.Agree
Not sure how the Lee is set up, but on my Dillon 550, I had an issue where once it was a worn feeder tube where the primer die came bck and "clipped " the tube and another where the seating die was ever so slightly mis-aligned with the shell plate.
Both instances occassionaly flipped a primer.
Post by: oldfart on July 09, 2016, 09:10:15 AM
Did you try out your home made ammo yet?
Post by: G35soldier on July 09, 2016, 02:32:45 PM
Post by: Rocky on July 10, 2016, 08:04:44 AM
careful when depriming as the pin can set the primer off. What ive done in the past is soak the entire case in water ( dissolve the priming material) then press it out. Causes you to lose the primer but the case will live on to shoot another day. :shaka:And so may you .
Good advice. :thumbsup:
Post by: London808 on July 10, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
Enquiring minds want to know.
Did you try out your home made ammo yet?
Yes, I went to the range on Friday, Fired of 50-60 rounds. as you said the powder was a little low resulting in 2 stovepipes.
I also had a squib load which luckily resulted in a failure to feed, Lesson learnt i will be a lot more careful from now on and will be weighing my ammo for consistency (I got a decent scale now)
Post by: oldfart on July 10, 2016, 01:36:50 PM
Yes, I went to the range on Friday, Fired of 50-60 rounds. as you said the powder was a little low resulting in 2 stovepipes....
I also had a squib load which luckily resulted in a failure to feed, Lesson learnt i will be a lot more careful from now on and will be weighing my ammo for consistency (I got a decent scale now)
I have that lee disk. I'll go measure the correct puka for that load.
Post by: oldfart on July 10, 2016, 04:42:59 PM
Yes, I went to the range on Friday, Fired of 50-60 rounds. as you said the powder was a little low resulting in 2 stovepipes....
I also had a squib load which luckily resulted in a failure to feed, Lesson learnt i will be a lot more careful from now on and will be weighing my ammo for consistency (I got a decent scale now)
Mathematically, that 115 gr bullet would use puka #40.
Alternatively, you could keep the #32 puka and put a 147 gr bullet on top.
I can give you some 147 gr bullets if you want to try that....manuahi.
Post by: Heavies on July 10, 2016, 04:53:03 PM
Yes, I went to the range on Friday, Fired of 50-60 rounds. as you said the powder was a little low resulting in 2 stovepipes.
I also had a squib load which luckily resulted in a failure to feed, Lesson learnt i will be a lot more careful from now on and will be weighing my ammo for consistency (I got a decent scale now)
Are you planning on weighing the completed round? That won't work. The cases will have too much deviation to give you any useful data. Best bet is to spot check powder drops while loading. Lee auto disk is fairly consistent.
Post by: Bushido on July 10, 2016, 07:46:11 PM
Are you planning on weighing the completed round? That won't work. The cases will have too much deviation to give you any useful data. Best bet is to spot check powder drops while loading. Lee auto disk is fairly consistent.
Yes I tried that when I first started. On rifle rounds, it's easy to tell if you didn't charge a round. On 9mm, the variance in case and bullet is more than most powder charges. I charge my whole tray than visually inspect the charge than seat and crimp. I'm using several single stage presses set up for each function so it's no problem for me.
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Post by: London808 on July 10, 2016, 09:04:00 PM
Are you planning on weighing the completed round? That won't work. The cases will have too much deviation to give you any useful data. Best bet is to spot check powder drops while loading. Lee auto disk is fairly consistent.
Well that was the idea but apparently that snot a good one lol, Just got to be earful i guess.
Post by: 808Hunta on July 18, 2016, 09:51:46 PM
Anyone locally knows about making wildcats and fired form brass?
Aloha Suka, What in particular were you looking for? or were you just interested in the process. I think the most in depth one's we have may be the 338-378 KT and 30-416 Rigby. You can message me if you got questions, Aloha!
Sorry for going off topic on your thread London 808... :stopjack: