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Title: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Hanabata on July 14, 2016, 12:20:15 PM
Truck in France rams into crowd.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/europe/nice-france-truck/index.html

Sad, indeed. But does this mean France needs more strict laws on truck control?
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: dirtylickins on July 14, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
Tally so far 73 dead 100 injured. The frequency of events are becoming frequently. Stay frosty peeps
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Hanabata on July 14, 2016, 01:07:36 PM
Bad people are going to do bad stuff. They'll use anything they can get and turn it into an assault weapon.
It aint an assault weapon until it's used as one -- not before.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: FBI on July 14, 2016, 01:24:48 PM
Bad people are going to do bad stuff. They'll use anything they can get and turn it into an assault weapon.
It aint an assault weapon until it's used as one -- not before.

Perhaps someone will do us a favor and drive an assault truck into the capitol
during the state of the state address, and explode.  That would really be terrible.
It will never happen, I would certainly do everything to prevent it.  /s
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Garuda on July 14, 2016, 01:31:28 PM
The "religion," of peace strikes again.

Who has the balls to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done?
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: omnigun on July 14, 2016, 01:38:03 PM
BAN ALL ASSAULT TRUCKS
#notalltrucks
#notallmuslims
#hillary2016
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Jl808 on July 14, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
When Obama goes on tv, it will be the fault of assault weapons and white men again.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Jl808 on July 14, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
Graphic video footage of human road kill.

https://youtu.be/3K5iFETj53Y
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Inspector on July 14, 2016, 02:21:41 PM
Maybe if someone there was carrying a gun....  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Garuda on July 14, 2016, 02:34:40 PM
Maybe if someone there was carrying a gun....  >:( >:( >:(

Don't take my comment as anti-gun, but unless it was a vehicle stopping caliber, not sure what effect it would have on the outcome.

deportation anyone?

How long does the US have before this narrative starts playing out here?

Of course it will be guns. This BS is so predictable yet no one has any logic or sense on how to address it. 
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Inspector on July 14, 2016, 02:37:13 PM
Don't take my comment as anti-gun, but unless it was a vehicle stopping caliber, not sure what effect it would have on the outcome.

deportation anyone?
I was thinking of any caliber through the windshield.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Garuda on July 14, 2016, 02:42:20 PM
I was thinking of any caliber through the windshield.


That would certainly help. It's still a reaction.

I'm all about being proactive. Deport every single one of them. It's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Inspector on July 14, 2016, 02:47:19 PM

That would certainly help. It's still a reaction.

I'm all about being proactive. Deport every single one of them. It's the only way to be sure.
Being proactive requires having intelligence. And balls. I believe that a good number of politicians both here and in France have neither.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 02:56:30 PM
The frequency of events are becoming frequently.

 :wtf:
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Garuda on July 14, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
Being proactive requires having intelligence. And balls. I believe that a good number of politicians both here and in France have neither.

Yea. It's clear that neither is present. Why is the world putting up with this again?
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: whynow? on July 14, 2016, 03:07:57 PM
Prayers for the dead and wounded and their families.   I think more of the smaller EU countries that are forced to take in Muslims will push to exit also.   France will probably never draw a line in the sand since they let in millions from the Algerian war days.
All I can say is if liberals feel Trump is wrong to keep them out, then let dozens of Syrian men move into their neighborhoods and be around their wife and kids.   Don't give a crap what Obama has to say about this.   Hellery will probably mumble something about how trump has upset the Muslims.
Well maybe I'm jumping the gun and the driver was a Danish Lutheran or a Japanese Buddhist or worst yet a disgruntled Tibetan monk.   
Nah, I know was a damn Muslim murderer.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: London808 on July 14, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
I was thinking of any caliber through the windshield.

Looks like thats what happened,

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/32446f87f67184cae6546348119584f04c88adcc/0_147_2205_1323/master/2205.jpg?w=780&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=b385097f6f618979d0bba20c94adff86)
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: London808 on July 14, 2016, 03:10:38 PM
What we know so far

A large truck has ploughed into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the French Riveria city of Nice.
The crash, which left at least 70 dead, is being treated as a terrorist attack.
The driver of the truck has been killed by police. They are trying to determine if he had accomplices.
Authorities say the man was firing on the crowd as he drove, and that the truck was loaded with weapons and grenades.
Witnesses said the driver was purposefully aiming the vehicle at the crowd and “zigzagging” so that he could hit as many people as possible. It was reported that he drove into the crowd for 2km.
After the attack, the police advised residents of Nice to remain in their homes.
François Hollande, the French president, is on his way to Paris from Avignon to chair an emergency security and defence meeting at 9am on Friday. The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, is on his way to Nice.
World leaders, including Barack Obama, have condemned the attack. Donald Trump has postponed the announcement of his running mate.[/li][/list]
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Dumbgun on July 14, 2016, 03:12:39 PM
Mental health clearance and rap back. Extend those to motor vehicle licensing. Can't fly, can't buy, can't drive by.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 03:22:23 PM
Yea. It's clear that neither is present. Why is the world putting up with this again?

because "everything is awesome!"
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: MuffinMan on July 14, 2016, 03:34:42 PM
BAN ALL ASSAULT TRUCKS
#notalltrucks
#notallmuslims
#hillary2016



And trucks with more than 10 tires.....  No one should need more than 10 tires :wtf:
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: MuffinMan on July 14, 2016, 03:37:42 PM
Hearts go out to the victims in France.

As a side note, did anyone see how many bullet holes there were in the windshield of the truck?
So when the libratards say "no one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer", this is exactly why we need Standard Capacity magazines


If that happened here, you'd get run over while reloading
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Garuda on July 14, 2016, 03:40:02 PM
Hearts go out to the victims in France.

As a side note, did anyone see how many bullet holes there were in the windshield of the truck?
So when the libratards say "no one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer", this is exactly why we need Standard Capacity magazines


Here here!!!!!

Give that man a beer!
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 03:49:47 PM


And trucks with more than 10 tires.....  No one should need more than 10 tires :wtf:

"he was a nice boy, i can't imagine him doing something like this"
"why couldn't they just shoot out the tires?"
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: omnigun on July 14, 2016, 03:51:25 PM
Looks like thats what happened,

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/32446f87f67184cae6546348119584f04c88adcc/0_147_2205_1323/master/2205.jpg?w=780&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=b385097f6f618979d0bba20c94adff86)

All missed the driver portion of the truck....and dude still got out and was shooting people. 


Reports says it was a 31 yr old Muslim male from Tunisia.  Who woulda guessed?  And to think Hillary wants to import these people. 
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: FBI on July 14, 2016, 03:54:59 PM
What we know so far

A large truck has ploughed into a crowd celebrating Bastille Day in the French Riveria city of Nice.
The crash, which left at least 70 dead, is being treated as a terrorist attack.
The driver of the truck has been killed by police. They are trying to determine if he had accomplices.
Authorities say the man was firing on the crowd as he drove, and that the truck was loaded with weapons and grenades.
Witnesses said the driver was purposefully aiming the vehicle at the crowd and “zigzagging” so that he could hit as many people as possible. It was reported that he drove into the crowd for 2km.
After the attack, the police advised residents of Nice to remain in their homes.
François Hollande, the French president, is on his way to Paris from Avignon to chair an emergency security and defence meeting at 9am on Friday. The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, is on his way to Nice.
World leaders, including Barack Obama, have condemned the attack. Donald Trump has postponed the announcement of his running mate.[/li][/list]

I'm going to send this to our Democrat overlords.
"This is your future".
Do yo want to recognize my rights so someone may
be able to stop it.  Moslem's just kill Democrats, which
really doesn't bother me.
A felon Republican would have shot the SOB.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 14, 2016, 04:42:58 PM
If the number of dead at a mass murder scene is the measurement used to call for a ban, Obama has no choice but to demand we ban large, easy-to-get trucks.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Mr. Farknocker on July 14, 2016, 06:11:45 PM
Truck in France rams into crowd.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/europe/nice-france-truck/index.html

Sad, indeed. But does this mean France needs more strict laws on truck control?

Well they need to tighten things up a bit. They already have truck registration, driver certification and safety check requirements imposed.  I think it takes the Frenchies at least three visits to the DMV to get their trucks registered. Also,they require a 30-day wait period for vehicle clearance just in case anyone buys a truck on impulse because they are pissed off. Perhaps they could impose limitations on the number of wheels that trucks have. The less wheels, the less carnage. Requiring a axle hub buttons could also help by making it more difficult and time consuming to add wheels to the truck.  Just sayin'...

~F
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 06:19:21 PM
"he was a nice boy, i can't imagine him doing something like this"
"why couldn't they just shoot out the tires?"

F@ck the NRA!
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: ren on July 14, 2016, 06:30:45 PM
after this event we need to insure CDL drivers are on rapback. If it can save only one life it will be worth it. C'Mon its a party up in here! We got school teachers and law abiding firearms owners.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Garuda on July 14, 2016, 06:48:20 PM
after this event we need to insure CDL drivers are on rapback. If it can save only one life it will be worth it. C'Mon its a party up in here! We got school teachers and law abiding firearms owners.

You beat me to it!

Make sure you find a politician that knows absolutely jack$h1t about truck drivers, CD licenses, commercial vehicles,  current processes already in place/requirements to introduce said Bill to get it passed. 

Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: ren on July 14, 2016, 06:54:33 PM
All missed the driver portion of the truck....and dude still got out and was shooting people. 
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/32446f87f67184cae6546348119584f04c88adcc/0_147_2205_1323/master/2205.jpg?w=780&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=b385097f6f618979d0bba20c94adff86)

Reports says it was a 31 yr old Muslim male from Tunisia.  Who woulda guessed?  And to think Hillary wants to import these people.

that is a ghost truck.
Able to kill 75 people over a 2 kilometer range in half a second. 2000 kilometers, half a second.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: whynow? on July 14, 2016, 07:29:54 PM
Hearts go out to the victims in France.

As a side note, did anyone see how many bullet holes there were in the windshield of the truck?
So when the libratards say "no one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer", this is exactly why we need Standard Capacity magazines


If that happened here, you'd get run over while reloading

And this is why HPD would never go to 10 rd. mags as STANDARD capacity mags are for their self protection.   The following 2 incidents in HI involved 3 officers.   Although the Palolo SB article does not say, but I CORRECTLY remember the reports were that 3 officers fired approx. 48 rds. at the knife wielding suspect.   The Maui incident claims 50 rds. fired , 9 by the criminal which means 41 fired by 3 officers.  Blue lives certainly do matter but civilians with guns lives matter also.  If a civilian died while trying to reload after the 10th rd. the reportd would say that the civilian lacked training and this is proof that the public should not have been armed anyway.
http://archives.starbulletin.com/1998/01/23/news/index.html
http://khon2.com/2015/08/05/man-killed-in-maui-police-involved-shootout-had-fake-badge/
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: oldfart on July 14, 2016, 07:35:42 PM
News reports says there was a lot of guns and explosives in the truck too.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: robtmc on July 14, 2016, 07:55:23 PM
All missed the driver portion of the truck....and dude still got out and was shooting people. 
Ease up there, could have been one of those Limey trucks where the driver is on the wrong side. EU and all, you know...........

Then again, no one ever said the French were good at winning battles where shot placement and marksmanship counted heavily............

Foreign Legion excepted......................
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: London808 on July 14, 2016, 07:56:25 PM
Death total now at 84
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: London808 on July 14, 2016, 07:57:21 PM
Ease up there, could have been one of those Limey trucks where the driver is on the wrong side. EU and all, you know...........

Then again, no one ever said the French were good at winning battles where shot placement and marksmanship counted heavily............

Foreign Legion excepted......................

Shots could of been from the inside as well,  Holding wheel with left hand shooting with the right.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Rocky on July 14, 2016, 08:00:10 PM
F@ck the NRA!

 ??? ??? ??? :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 08:10:50 PM
??? ??? ??? :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

it's a joke, son
i say, a joke
 :stopjack:
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: passivekinetic on July 14, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
because "everything is awesome!"

I think 99% of the people watching that Lego movie missed entirely the satire for that piece.

They even show people robotically going through the motions every day, and then singing the lyrics.

So, it was actually a perfect criticism of the world.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: robtmc on July 14, 2016, 08:24:06 PM
Shots could of been from the inside as well,  Holding wheel with left hand shooting with the right.

If so, MoFo muzzie be stupid as well as suicidal, thinking he could hit squat shooting through his own windshield.....

Then again, no one has stepped up to assert intelligence to muzzies...............
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 08:33:45 PM
I think 99% of the people watching that Lego movie missed entirely the satire for that piece.

same with "the incredibles"
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 08:34:35 PM
If so, MoFo muzzie be stupid as well as suicidal, thinking he could hit squat shooting through his own windshield.....

Then again, no one has stepped up to assert intelligence to muzzies...............

but islam is a religion of peace and love...

(rock, this is a joke too)  :wave:
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: macsak on July 14, 2016, 09:21:17 PM


And trucks with more than 10 tires.....  No one should need more than 10 tires :wtf:

https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/10154445658561336/
newt's prediction...
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Jl808 on July 15, 2016, 07:36:02 AM
BBC: "Nice attacks: what we know of the Bastille Day killings"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36801671
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 16, 2016, 10:29:00 AM
Quote
Paris (AFP) - French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve on Saturday called on young citizens to become reservists and help boost security forces in the wake of the country's latest terror attack.

France's "operational reservists" include French citizens with or without military experience as well as former soldiers.

"I want to call on all French patriots who wish to do so, to join this operational reserve," said Cazeneuve.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/paris-calls-willing-citizens-become-reservists-172826456.html?ref=gs
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: robtmc on July 16, 2016, 05:59:04 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/paris-calls-willing-citizens-become-reservists-172826456.html?ref=gs
Attack with Gaulloises and baguettes if they see muzzies?
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: oldfart on July 16, 2016, 06:53:18 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/paris-calls-willing-citizens-become-reservists-172826456.html?ref=gs
...
Hmmm, what a novel idea....a militia.
But with severe restrictions on firearms they will arm themselves with baguettes and harsh language.

Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: whynow? on July 16, 2016, 09:32:44 PM
...
Hmmm, what a novel idea....a militia.
But with severe restrictions on firearms they will arm themselves with baguettes and harsh language.
What happened to the pitchforks and torches?
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Falken Hawke on July 16, 2016, 11:20:43 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/paris-calls-willing-citizens-become-reservists-172826456.html?ref=gs
Initially, the thought "well armed militia" crossed my mind but then realized, that's not the intent.  This is actually a buildup of armed security, which is already in place at this point.

On the surface, this seems like a good direction.  However, this is getting closer to martial law as the armed are going to dictate what is safe for the unarmed.

For us now, this may not seem significant but keep in mind how often the argument is made "in other countries, this is what they do"...

Stay vigilant.
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Jl808 on July 18, 2016, 06:39:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATbn96P5i-E
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: PeaShooter on July 18, 2016, 02:14:21 PM
It's been a few days now and I see no proof or further information that this was a terrorist attack as claimed?
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: Jl808 on July 18, 2016, 02:36:38 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/nice-terror-attack-driver-who-killed-84-on-french-riviera-was-cr/

http://pamelageller.com/2016/07/no-lone-wolf-nice-jihad-murderer-sent-text-message-bring-more-weapons-just-before-massacre.html/

Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: London808 on July 18, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/nice-terror-attack-driver-who-killed-84-on-french-riviera-was-cr/

http://pamelageller.com/2016/07/no-lone-wolf-nice-jihad-murderer-sent-text-message-bring-more-weapons-just-before-massacre.html/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/17/nice-attackers-movements-studied-as-police-make-more-arrests-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/17/nice-attackers-movements-studied-as-police-make-more-arrests-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel)

". A pistol, two replica assault rifles and a dummy grenade were found in the truck."

"It also emerged that Lahouaiej-Bouhlel took pictures of himself at the wheel of the truck before the attack and shared them by text message. More than 200 investigators are working on identifying the recipients of the messages."
Title: Re: Truck in France strikes crowd
Post by: London808 on July 18, 2016, 02:42:23 PM
French authorities said six people are in custody in connection with the attacks.

French authorities arrested an Albanian couple Sunday in connection with the Nice terror attacks that killed 84 people last week, the Paris prosecutor's office spokeswoman told CNN.

ISIS' media group, Amaq Agency, said Saturday that an ISIS "soldier" carried out the attack.
In a statement, it said "the person ... carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of the coalition which is fighting the Islamic State."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/17/europe/france-attack-on-nice-arrests/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/17/europe/france-attack-on-nice-arrests/)