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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: zippz on October 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PM

Title: Honolulu crime statistics - Update now with violent crimes
Post by: zippz on October 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PM
UPDATE: 
11-14-16 Crime maps are now updated with violent crimes.  http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/11/15/breaking-news/hpd-changes-policy-adds-violent-offenses-to-crime-maps/



ORIGINAL POST:

This article complains that HPD is not showing violent crimes on their crime statistics map, only property crimes.  Also the crimes listed are vary vague and there are no details on the crimes.  This is an interesting read.  I think if violent crimes are shown with more details on the criminal act, there would be more community awareness for self-defense and more support for CCW.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/10/25/hawaii-news/hpd-circumvents-community-efforts-to-gain-crime-data/

I didn't know there was a map like this.
http://honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=statistics

There's also this Nextdoor social medial thing where the neighborhood posts messages such as suspicious people, burglaries, and other stuff.  Might be useful for us.
http://khon2.com/2016/10/25/hpd-partners-with-social-networking-site-to-increase-community-awareness/
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: RSN172 on October 26, 2016, 06:04:57 AM
I have subscribed to HPD crime mapping for several years and wondered how come sexual assaults, couple murders, and beatings I read about in the paper did not appear on the crime mapping reports that I got.  I now know why.  All part of HPD's attempt to make our community feel safe by lying.  Yes, half truths and not telling the whole truth is equivalent to lying.
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: oldfart on October 26, 2016, 09:38:18 AM
Anybody use the nextdoor.com site?
Seems like a good idea.
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: ren on October 26, 2016, 09:54:14 AM
I do. Discovered that violent crimes exist! Had a home invasion down the street!
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: Rocky on October 26, 2016, 10:37:16 AM
I'm not on nextdoor.com, but may check it out.
We have a Facebook page out here for our area.

Koolauloa crime watch
https://www.facebook.com/groups/898390516907045/
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 26, 2016, 01:10:50 PM
Interesting report Zippz.

I guess if HPD put actual details then CCW might be passed?
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: Wave Twister on October 26, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
Saw that this morning, typical government pulling the blinders over everyone.

Just like how hpd were deleting opposing comments on their facebook page to make it look lovely (Good job HDF).

Thanks for the nextdoor tip, just joined. Wish there were more people in my neighborhood but so far I like the feel of it, people helping get the word out on some items I had no idea were happening or I thought I was the only one tired of the moped noises and dangerous speeding through back streets.
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: zippz on October 26, 2016, 01:25:54 PM
Interesting report Zippz.

I guess if HPD put actual details then CCW might be passed?

Every little bit helps.  What the public hears is that Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the nation and the police will protect them so there is no need to have CCW.  This statistic is probably is true, however this statistic doesn't help you when you get attacked and the police aren't there.  If people were made aware of violent crimes occurring in their neighborhood and that it was their own responsibility to protect themselves, then they may start considering CCW.
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: Heavies on October 26, 2016, 01:51:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1wW94RQ.gif)
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: whynow? on October 26, 2016, 08:16:55 PM
Every little bit helps.  What the public hears is that Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the nation and the police will protect them so there is no need to have CCW.  This statistic is probably is true, however this statistic doesn't help you when you get attacked and the police aren't there.  If people were made aware of violent crimes occurring in their neighborhood and that it was their own responsibility to protect themselves, then they may start considering CCW.
Maybe TPTB city and state don't want to show violent crime so tourists can believe this is a safe tropical paradise with docile and complying people.   They want the tourist dollah, no care about da peepos (well only during election time).
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: London808 on October 26, 2016, 10:04:31 PM
FBI DATA 2015 : State wide

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Title: Crime Stats - HPD seeks input in November
Post by: zippz on October 29, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
HPD will be seeking input to include violent crimes on their neighborhood crime mapping and monthly crime reports.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/10/29/hawaii-news/police-seek-input-on-crime-mapping/

Attend your November neighborhood board and see whats going on and give your input to HPD.

http://www.honolulu.gov/nco/boards.html
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: hvybarrels on November 04, 2016, 11:50:58 PM
Just following along the Stolen Stuff Hawaii page I've noticed a disturbing trend of teenagers mobbing individuals on the street and in cars. There have been some really freaky stories and lots of graphic photos of people who got beat up even when they attempted to comply. The political inaction on affordable housing and living wage employment opportunities means it will only get worse. As Gerald Celente says  “When People Lose Everything, They Have Nothing Left To Lose, And They Lose It”
Title: Re: Honolulu crime statistics missing violent crimes
Post by: zippz on November 15, 2016, 02:03:58 PM
Crime maps are now updated with violent crimes.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2016/11/15/breaking-news/hpd-changes-policy-adds-violent-offenses-to-crime-maps/