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Title: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: oldfart on January 31, 2017, 03:29:40 PM
This is kinda funny...
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/34390827/maui-man-accused-of-stealing-guns-from-storage-locker

Only $200 per pound :rofl:
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: ren on January 31, 2017, 03:35:06 PM
ban mango pickers
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: punaperson on January 31, 2017, 03:59:12 PM
ban mango pickers
I think a ban is a little harsh. I believe registration and the 14-20 day waiting period would work. Well, work as well as the registration and 14-20 day waiting period does for handgun crime prevention: not at all.  :shaka:
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: oldfart on January 31, 2017, 04:26:33 PM
I think a ban is a little harsh. I believe registration and the 14-20 day waiting period would work. Well, work as well as the registration and 14-20 day waiting period does for handgun crime prevention: not at all.  :shaka:
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Coincidentally, I just gave my neighbor a 12ft. Bamboo stick from my yard.
She was going to make a mango picker.
Is it legal for me to give away an 80% lower picker?
Since she is fabricating her own, does she need to engrave a serial number?
Is it legal to use the picker in her back yard since it is zoned residential?
So many disturbing qusstions. I believe she already owns an unregistered compact picker.
She also owns several dogs which may be unregistered.
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: punaperson on January 31, 2017, 05:31:33 PM
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Coincidentally, I just gave my neighbor a 12ft. Bamboo stick from my yard.
She was going to make a mango picker.
Is it legal for me to give away an 80% lower picker?
Since she is fabricating her own, does she need to engrave a serial number?
Is it legal to use the picker in her back yard since it is zoned residential?
So many disturbing qusstions. I believe she already owns an unregistered compact picker.
She also owns several dogs which may be unregistered.
That reminds me, just yesterday I was having a conversation with the county prosecutor about the legality of shooting on agriculturally-zoned property, specifically in my subdivision here in Puna, where there is no express prohibition. He said usually the criminal code enforced, if someone complains, is 707-714 "reckless endangerment". This says that discharging a firearm in 1. "a populated area", or 2. in "a residential area", or 3. "in the direction of any road, street, or highway" is "reckless endangerment". I then immediately asked him to please provide the HRS citation where "populated area" and "residential area" are defined. He said, "Uh, well, that's where it gets complicated... there are no definitions." Me: "So you're saying that if I discharge a firearm on my 4 acres in a "safe" setting (backstop/berm, nothing behind the target for thousands of feet, etc.) it's up to the arbitrary and capricious discretion of some government bureaucrat whether or not I'll be arrested and prosecuted when the day before they refused to tell me if what I wanted to do was legal or not?" It degenerated from there for another 20 minutes. I wish I had it on tape for a SNL skit.
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: rklapp on January 31, 2017, 05:45:27 PM
Are firearms allowed to be stored in storage lockers? I've been debating on FB Oahu Gun Club about what are the consequences. For example, I'm traveling to KSC and I have a craving for poke so I park my car and go into Foodland. Someone breaks into my car and steals my firearms. I'm required to report it to HPD or is this a proposed law? I would think it's in my best interest to report the crime. Would I get a misdemeanor charge, have my licenses pulled, and/or prevent me from getting a new permit? Did the storage locker renter in the story get charged?
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 31, 2017, 07:18:04 PM
Are firearms allowed to be stored in storage lockers? I've been debating on FB Oahu Gun Club about what are the consequences. For example, I'm traveling to KSC and I have a craving for poke so I park my car and go into Foodland. Someone breaks into my car and steals my firearms. I'm required to report it to HPD or is this a proposed law? I would think it's in my best interest to report the crime. Would I get a misdemeanor charge, have my licenses pulled, and/or prevent me from getting a new permit? Did the storage locker renter in the story get charged?
You are not allowed to stop for poke. Gotta go straight from point A to B.

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Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: macsak on January 31, 2017, 07:26:14 PM
Are firearms allowed to be stored in storage lockers? I've been debating on FB Oahu Gun Club about what are the consequences. For example, I'm traveling to KSC and I have a craving for poke so I park my car and go into Foodland. Someone breaks into my car and steals my firearms. I'm required to report it to HPD or is this a proposed law? I would think it's in my best interest to report the crime. Would I get a misdemeanor charge, have my licenses pulled, and/or prevent me from getting a new permit? Did the storage locker renter in the story get charged?

guy got his guns stolen from ala moana center parking lot a while back, reported to police, got arrested for "places to keep"
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: London808 on January 31, 2017, 07:30:09 PM
#Constitution

You cant say where people can have firearms only where they cant and only then if there is a significant gain to public safety (goverment intrest)
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: whynow? on January 31, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
You don't spit at the wind and you don't bring a mango picker to a gunfight.   
Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: drck1000 on January 31, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
guy got his guns stolen from ala moana center parking lot a while back, reported to police, got arrested for "places to keep"
Had another that stopped at Koko Marina on the way home and got his guns stolen. Same thing. Arrested for violation of place to keep. Not sure what ever happened to the guy or his guns.


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Title: Re: Man Uses Mango Picker to Steal Guns
Post by: punaperson on February 01, 2017, 06:33:51 AM
#Constitution

You cant say where people can have firearms only where they cant and only then if there is a significant gain to public safety (goverment intrest)
This is a quote from a California state legislator, but many Hawaii legislators and law enforcement personnel, if they were halfway honest, would say the same thing (they certainly know it to be true):

But the law and the Constitution have never stopped the California Legislature. In fact, Public Safety Chairman Reggie Jones Sawyer, D-Los Angeles said, “This is California; we don’t pay too much attention to the Constitution,” when Paredes pointed out the unconstitutionality of AB 1673.

(http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/smilies/facepalm.gif) He means, of course, including that time as he took office and swore to uphold it. Meaningless jibber as far as he was concerned. Whatevahs.