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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: mikenkapolei on March 07, 2017, 01:25:28 PM
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I've shot trap twice in my life, both times at the Shooting Sports Fair. I'm hoping to pick up a shotgun sometime soon and want to take up trap shooting. Does anyone do classes for beginners?
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The folks at both the trap and skeet ranges are quite friendly, and you should have little trouble finding someone to take you under their wing. As far as a structured class in shotgun sports, I've not seen anything like that offered locally.
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YouTube. I'm serious, there's a series of vids from the AMU with tips on how to shoot American Trap. There might even be a series of videos you can buy on American Trap. Just make sure you get American Trapand not the other kinds like international trap.
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I've shot trap twice in my life, both times at the Shooting Sports Fair. I'm hoping to pick up a shotgun sometime soon and want to take up trap shooting. Does anyone do classes for beginners?
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I'm a member of the Honolulu Trap Club and shoot there at least 2-3 times a month. Open every Sunday except if there is a special event and are starting to open on Saturdays if HPD doesn't need the training range. They are all really great people and everyone is more than happy to teach or give pointers. I'm in training as an RSO this Saturday. Stop by and ask for for me (Gil). :shaka:
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I was thinking about it as well. looks fun.. might have to take my sxs coach gun over and give it a try
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I'm a member of the Honolulu Trap Club and shoot there at least 2-3 times a month. Open every Sunday except if there is a special event and are starting to open on Saturdays if HPD doesn't need the training range. They are all really great people and everyone is more than happy to teach or give pointers. I'm in training as an RSO this Saturday. Stop by and ask for for me (Gil). :shaka:
Thanks mrgaf, I'm at the range every weekend, either Saturday or Sunday depending on the honey-do-list. haha Hopefully I can go on Saturday and look you up.
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A while back, I recall one of the shotgun ranges being open on Fridays. If I recall correctly, it was on a trial basis and something like once or twice a month. I was thinking that would be a good opportunity for an intro as it would be less crowded than a weekend. I haven't been to the range on a Friday in a while, so not sure if that is still going on.
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Thanks mrgaf, I'm at the range every weekend, either Saturday or Sunday depending on the honey-do-list. haha Hopefully I can go on Saturday and look you up.
Sounds good.Hope to C U there! :shaka:
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A while back, I recall one of the shotgun ranges being open on Fridays. If I recall correctly, it was on a trial basis and something like once or twice a month. I was thinking that would be a good opportunity for an intro as it would be less crowded than a weekend. I haven't been to the range on a Friday in a while, so not sure if that is still going on.
Trap side is not doing that and I dont think the skeet side is either. Skeet side is open on Saturdays if memory serves me correctly, as well as Sundays. Trap side is only Sundays but from time to time, they will open on Saturday and holidays. If the Mods approve, I can pass along to alcon when the trap range will open on days other than Sundays.
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mrgaf, I wanted to put on an event with my group HawaiiGGG to have people try Trap/Skeet shooting, most of them for the first time. Can you help us out? We'd need shotguns, coaches, and some instruction.
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Trap side is not doing that and I dont think the skeet side is either. Skeet side is open on Saturdays if memory serves me correctly, as well as Sundays. Trap side is only Sundays but from time to time, they will open on Saturday and holidays. If the Mods approve, I can pass along to alcon when the trap range will open on days other than Sundays.
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Shucks. Ok. I guess it didn't take. I recall RSO Mike saying they were trying it on a trial basis. I want to say that was summer/fall of 2016. I was at the rifle range on a Friday and noticed they were shooting shotgun. I think it was on the skeet range, but it could've been trap. Was just curious what happened. I've always enjoyed shooting clays.
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mrgaf, I wanted to put on an event with my group HawaiiGGG to have people try Trap/Skeet shooting, most of them for the first time. Can you help us out? We'd need shotguns, coaches, and some instruction.
I'll ask for you on Saturday. To the best of my knowledge the club does not have any shotguns to loan out. There are plenty of folks who would be more than happy to show them the ropes. There is a fee per round/per person for the clay targets (25 birds). Members are $5 but not sure what it is for non members. I'll get all the info and pass it on. How's dat! :shaka:
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I'll ask for you on Saturday. To the best of my knowledge the club does not have any shotguns to loan out. There are plenty of folks who would be more than happy to show them the ropes. There is a fee per round/per person for the clay targets (25 birds). Members are $5 but not sure what it is for non members. I'll get all the info and pass it on. How's dat! :shaka:
Sounds good, I'll try and round up some shotguns. I have a mossberg 590 20" that I took up to Schofield Skeet range once and the folks there dubbed it the "man killer"
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I'll be running the skeet range on Sunday for anyone who wants to come down and shoot. All you need is your eyes and ears a shotgun and ammo 7.5 or smaller. Fees are the same as the trap range $5 for members and $6 for non. I'd be more than happy to get anyone started. If you have any question feel free to ask. :shaka:
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I'll be running the skeet range on Sunday for anyone who wants to come down and shoot. All you need is your eyes and ears a shotgun and ammo 7.5 or smaller. Fees are the same as the trap range $5 for members and $6 for non. I'd be more than happy to get anyone started. If you have any question feel free to ask. :shaka:
Hi state is the man!
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Hi state is the man!
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Thank you, your too kind
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Sounds good, I'll try and round up some shotguns. I have a mossberg 590 20" that I took up to Schofield Skeet range once and the folks there dubbed it the "man killer"
By the way forgot to tell ya that to bring ammo, eye and ear protection, etc etc..... there's always someone who is willing to teach and show the ropes. I would but I'm still learning myself. Will be there for RSO training tomorrow... come on down if you can......
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Anyone can drop in and take a turn shooting trap/skeet?
What size shell/shot? Choke?
Pump ok? Or must it be a single-shot double barrel, or semi auto?
(noob questions because I never shot trap/skeet before)
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Anyone can drop in and take a turn shooting trap/skeet?
What size shell/shot? Choke?
Pump ok? Or must it be a single-shot double barrel, or semi auto?
(noob questions because I never shot trap/skeet before)
Anyone can shoot. $6 per round of 25 for non members, $5 for members. Open every Sunday and some Saturdays 9-4, last round starts at 3:30.
Largest shot size is 7.5. Trap usually uses 7.5-8, skeet #9, but the choice is yours. All shells are "target" 2.5". No magnum loads.
Choke is whatever you fancy but skeet, if memory serves me correctly, usually uses imp cyl. Trap, depending on handicap (distance) is usually imp mod or mod for 16 yards, full for any other distance but the choice is yours.
Pump, semi, O/U, S/S, single barrels are fine. 12 ga is max.
Hope this answers all your questions. Come on down!
Gil
HTC RO
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I'm just getting into skeet with a few friends. Its a nice change from just shooting static targets all day. Everyone that I've met is super nice and helpful.
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I'll be looking for a shotgun at the gun show. I hope I find one!
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Anyone can shoot. $6 per round of 25 for non members, $5 for members. Open every Sunday and some Saturdays 9-4, last round starts at 3:30.
Largest shot size is 7.5. Trap usually uses 7.5-8, skeet #9, but the choice is yours. All shells are "target" 2.5". No magnum loads.
Choke is whatever you fancy but skeet, if memory serves me correctly, usually uses imp cyl. Trap, depending on handicap (distance) is usually imp mod or mod for 16 yards, full for any other distance but the choice is yours.
Pump, semi, O/U, S/S, single barrels are fine. 12 ga is max.
Hope this answers all your questions. Come on down!
Gil
HTC RO
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I've been thinking about getting either a Remington 870 or 1100 trap models but so far, I've never seen anyone at Kokohead using one.
All you trap shooters seem to be using the break action type shotguns. Are the Remy's not a good choice?
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Be wary of recent productions Remy shotguns. I've used a few and have friends that own them and they report a lot of problems. One friend is a duck hunter in Houston and he knows how to take care of his guns and still reports a bunch of problems with his gun as well as guns of his friends.
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Relative to the Rem 870, When I own an older Rem 870 Magnum for skeet, it shot great with light loads, no jams. I sold it and upgrade with a newer lighter synthetic Magnum model. It jams a lot with light target loads. Don't get Magnum shotgun for skeet/trap. I pick up a Benelli with stock fitted for me and never got a jam,. My family member purchased a Rem 11-87 and only work with heavy load. I felt bad, so I trade him my Benelli, and now the Benelli fit him like a glove. If you going to start out and think you going go play more skeet/trap get a Semi or under over and get the shotgun stock fitted for you.
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0000 Steel wool chamber,ejector spring & non mim extractor fixes most 870 problems. I vote for a beretta 391 or a400.
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Several years ago I used to go every weekend with a 870 and a classic Winchester model 12. Generally shot in the 20-23 range. Flirted with a perfect round twice lol. The 870 will get the job done, but the people who shoot in the comps usually shoot o/u. Not sure why, never asked, but they did help me a lot
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0000 Steel wool chamber,ejector spring & non mim extractor fixes most 870 problems. I vote for a beretta 391 or a400.
I have a 391 as well. Great gun
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Several years ago I used to go every weekend with a 870 and a classic Winchester model 12. Generally shot in the 20-23 range. Flirted with a perfect round twice lol. The 870 will get the job done, but the people who shoot in the comps usually shoot o/u. Not sure why, never asked, but they did help me a lot
i think comp shooters use o/u because the simple mechanism leads to ease of use and quick follow up shot, fewer moving parts leads to greater reliability. I have a nostalgic sxs hammered coach gun that I would like to try shoot clay with but the o/u i think is superior to the sxs because the barrels are stacked on top of each other, both barrels will hit the target where it's pointed, in a sxs you may have to make adjustment for the sxs barrels. With that being said a sxs coach gun is definitely a self defense weapon, designed to protect "coaches" back in the cowboy days and not intentionally designed for shooting birds out the sky but serviceable for hunting.
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Compared to my Benelli, the O/U shotguns are slimmer, longer, and weighted in such a way that they swing side to side really smoothly. The weight also absorbs the recoil so follow up shots are really quick. I don't know for sure, but I also suspect everyone feels more relaxed and comfortable hanging around a group of break-action shotguns that are clearly made safe. Even tho my benelli action is locked open, I still make sure I don't muzzle sweep anyone just out of habit.
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When I shot clays with both Benelli semi autos and some O/Us, the heft of the O/U seemed to help both with absorbing recoil as well as "swinging" factor. That and I just like O/U shotguns and have always wanted a nice Browning.
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Anyone can shoot. $6 per round of 25 for non members, $5 for members. Open every Sunday and some Saturdays 9-4, last round starts at 3:30.
Largest shot size is 7.5. Trap usually uses 7.5-8, skeet #9, but the choice is yours. All shells are "target" 2.5". No magnum loads.
Choke is whatever you fancy but skeet, if memory serves me correctly, usually uses imp cyl. Trap, depending on handicap (distance) is usually imp mod or mod for 16 yards, full for any other distance but the choice is yours.
Pump, semi, O/U, S/S, single barrels are fine. 12 ga is max.
Hope this answers all your questions. Come on down!
Gil
HTC RO
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Thanks sir, I do intend to try this! (not tomorrow 26th tho).
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Sounds good, I'll try and round up some shotguns. I have a mossberg 590 20" that I took up to Schofield Skeet range once and the folks there dubbed it the "man killer"
Hi zippz,
Any luck trying to get a shotgun meetup together? I acquired a 870 12ga 30" and I'm itching to get out and try some trap or skeet!
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Range will be open on 4/21 from 8-12 pm. I'll be the RO. Come on down!
R/
Gil
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Range will be open on 4/21 from 8-12 pm. I'll be the RO. Come on down!
R/
Gil
8-12pm on friday 4/21?
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Hi zippz,
Any luck trying to get a shotgun meetup together? I acquired a 870 12ga 30" and I'm itching to get out and try some trap or skeet!
Sorry, couldn't get a group together for this month. I'll try again next month.
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Range will be open on 4/21 from 8-12 pm. I'll be the RO. Come on down!
R/
Gil
Trap range is open on Friday 4/21?
Is that something new they're trying?
What about tomorrow, 4/14 Good Friday?
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Trap range is open on Friday 4/21?
Is that something new they're trying?
What about tomorrow, 4/14 Good Friday?
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The trap club is trying to get the range open as much as possible. We share the area with HPD so we have to get the ok from them to open on days other than Sunday. So for we've been able to open on the fist Saturday of each month and are trying for more. We have a very lmted number of RO's as well which restricts use. Bottom line is if the range is open, HPD is not using the trap range area and there is an RO who is willing to open, then we're good to go. I'll be advertising here on 2A when I'm opening or another is opening outside of the normal schedule. As for 4/14, we will not be opening. Keep an eye out for posts from me though.... :shaka: :shaka:
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So it's open Friday 4/21 ?
With you as RO ?
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So it's open Friday 4/21 ?
With you as RO ?
yup. 8-12pm
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Thanks dogman for inviting me out to the trap range today. Thanks to Warren, Skip, and RO lance for helping out the noob. Bunch of great guys.
My 870 worked great and I managed to hit some clays. Definitely hooked!
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Thanks dogman for inviting me out to the trap range today. Thanks to Warren, Skip, and RO lance for helping out the noob. Bunch of great guys.
My 870 worked great and I managed to hit some clays. Definitely hooked!
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Glad you had fun....
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Glad you had fun....
Thanks mrgaf, hopefully I can make it out on Friday!
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Thanks mrgaf, hopefully I can make it out on Friday!
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Me too! I tell you everyone out there are first rate! Warren, Skip and Lance are some of the nicest people I've ever met. We're one big happy family and are always looking for new members. Hope to see you Friday!
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Be wary of recent productions Remy shotguns. I've used a few and have friends that own them and they report a lot of problems. One friend is a duck hunter in Houston and he knows how to take care of his guns and still reports a bunch of problems with his gun as well as guns of his friends.
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I'm happy to report that I had no problems with my brand new Remington 870. I shot 3 rounds of trap on Sunday with zero failures. Smooth action and nice trigger, great gun!
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Would you say a sie by side 16" 12 ga coach shotgun is appropriate for fun/cowboy/non-competitive trap shooting?
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Would you say a sie by side 16" 12 ga coach shotgun is appropriate for fun/cowboy/non-competitive trap shooting?
The short sight plane of the coach gun will make accurate pointing very difficult.
The coach gun weighs 6.5 pounds. It probably will not be very fun to shoot for very long, as it will kick the heck out of your shoulder.
If you want to get serious about trap shooting, though, the coach gun is not well suited for trap.
In a registered trap shoot, it is not uncommon to shoot 300 targets in the span of 4 or 5 hours. I bet you'd admit, if you shot 300 targets in 4 hours with your coach, your shoulder would be pretty sore.
But, if you're shooting for fun, just shoot what you have and enjoy yourself.
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The short sight plane of the coach gun will make accurate pointing very difficult.
The coach gun weighs 6.5 pounds. It probably will not be very fun to shoot for very long, as it will kick the heck out of your shoulder.
If you want to get serious about trap shooting, though, the coach gun is not well suited for trap.
In a registered trap shoot, it is not uncommon to shoot 300 targets in the span of 4 or 5 hours. I bet you'd admit, if you shot 300 targets in 4 hours with your coach, your shoulder would be pretty sore.
But, if you're shooting for fun, just shoot what you have and enjoy yourself.
roger that!
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roger that!
There are plenty of folks shooting trap with every type of shogun imaginable. Rom 28’s to 12’s, semi, pump, break, side by side, o/u with barrel lengths 18-36”. One common factor remains though, 99% of the guns are choked. For trap I guess the standard is Mod or improved modified. Some shoot full, others cylinder BUT the barrels are set up for multichoke or poly choked for the die hards. I’ve seen people shoot a cheap pump with an 18” barrel and an AR style stock and shoot just as good as those with much more expensive trap guns. Got a CAS side by side scatter gun? No worries! Sure the cyl bore constriction could be a factor but it’s not the gun, it’s the person shooting. Come on out! You’re more than welcome to try out my trap gun anytime..... must warn you though, it’s a lefty and there are others who would be more than happy to let you try theirs....
Hope to see ya soon.
By the way, cost is $7 for non members, $t for members per round.
R
Gil :shaka:
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I've shot trap twice in my life, both times at the Shooting Sports Fair. I'm hoping to pick up a shotgun sometime soon and want to take up trap shooting. Does anyone do classes for beginners?
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I usually shoot trap from the longest range.
I only shoot with full choke.
Practice, practice, practice.
My only advice is remove the sights from the
shotgun.
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Would you say a sie by side 16" 12 ga coach shotgun is appropriate for fun/cowboy/non-competitive trap shooting?
It's been a year since I started this thread and have since been shooting trap regularly. I'm usually at the trap range on Sundays, and have seen all kinds of shotguns being used.
Although your coach gun was not designed for shooting trap, you can definitely bring it out and use it.
Keep in mind, you'll need to use target loads. Typically 1-1/8 oz of #8 or #7-1/2 lead shot, going about 1100-1200 fps. Shot larger than 7-1/2 is not allowed.
If you want to lessen the recoil, try using lighter 1 oz loads.
Trap range is open on Sundays 0900-1600. Cost to shoot is $7.00 for a round of trap (25 birds) for non-members.
Sundays can get pretty busy so it's better to come early if you don't want to sit around and wait to shoot.
Trap range also opens on the first Saturday of every month. Let me know when you're coming out and I'll help you get started.
You'll have a lot of fun so bring more ammo than you think you'll need!