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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: macsak on March 24, 2017, 07:18:58 AM
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so as most of you know, this past weekend was the gunshow
this usually means longer lines at hpd with people registering their new purchases
at least a couple times a week, i drive past hpd around 6:30 am
this week's stats:
mon 6:35 0 people on benches or in line
tues 6:35 1 person on bench
wed 6:35 0 people on benches or in line
fri 6:45 0 people on benches or in line
thoughts/opinions?
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Rapback is effectively working as designed.
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Rapback is effectively working as designed.
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Sadly this
I was going to buy a gun but I still don't want to be in rapshit
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Rapback is effectively working as designed.
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This
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I would've bought at least 3 or 4 since it went into effect. Just biding my time. 13 months to go to a freer state.
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I ordered my VEPR around Thanksgiving and received it after 12/4, so I'm now in rapback. It's hard to say if I would have bought the rifle if I knew ahead of time, but I wasn't going to send it back. I have my handgun certification yet I'm holding off purchasing anything else out of fear that I'll have to buy insurance for it.
I would've bought at least 3 or 4 since it went into effect. Just biding my time. 13 months to go to a freer state.
Think of the money you're saving thanks to gun control!!!
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our legislators have a grin every morning when they drive by the main station...
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I have my handgun certification but I'm holding off purchasing anything else out of fear that I'll have to buy insurance for it.
Maybe some day, but not this year. That bill (SB9) never got a committee hearing (just like all our CCW shall issue and handgun mag limit change bills) so is essentially dead for this session. Maybe they'll try again next year, and/or come up with some other bullshit common sense gun safety regulations.
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our legislators have a grin every morning when they drive by the main station...
I wonder what expression they'd have on their faces if they could know what is in all the luggage coming from the mainland? I'm not sayin'... I'm just sayin'...
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I wonder what expression they'd have on their faces if they could know what is in all the luggage coming from the mainland? I'm not sayin'... I'm just sayin'...
no one on this forum does anything illegal...
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Rapback is effectively working as designed.
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Soon we will be wearing armbands to identify us as being potential resistance fighters.
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Is it safe to assume that most gun buyers are existing owners and not 1st timers. Because as a first time buyer, I don't care about rapback. I gotta do what I gotta do to own firearms.
But with that being said, had I already had my collection to where it should be, I wouldn't buy more knowing I have to enter rapback.
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Is it safe to assume that most gun buyers are existing owners and not 1st timers. Because as a first time buyer, I don't care about rapback. I gotta do what I gotta do to own firearms.
But with that being said, had I already had my collection to where it should be, I wouldn't buy more knowing I have to enter rapback.
Exactly the point. Those that are already in a good place should now shift their efforts in fighting this, and other, infringements.
Ainokea time is PAU. NEED TO FIGHT!
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no one on this forum does anything illegal...
Exactly. That's what I was sayin'. In fact, I'd bet that no one in all of Hawaii does anything illegal, what with all the laws and all... who would be dumb enough to risk their freedom to break some obviously important "public safety" law? Though I'm pretty sure I've seen some drivers on South Kulani Road surpassing the 25 MPH limit...
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no one on this forum does anything illegal...
Nope, not us! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I'd say it's equal parts of the election, rapback, and people bought all the guns they need already. Most people still don't know anything about rapback or don't care. Gun craze has been going on for a long time, since Sandy Hook in 2012, so I think most of the people that wanted guns bought them already. Eventually guns and ammo sales are going to drop back down to historical levels unless something like CCW comes around.
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Nope, not us! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I believe we're law abiding and am sure all of us would do the right thing and turn in to Fed. DHS any local official who tried to obstruct or break immigration laws regardless of future state laws.
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I know gun sales have slowed. Just wondering if, besides rapback, if not having the threat of gun confiscation over your head is also a factor? Apparently, ammo sales don't seem slow. All I have been buying the last 2 months or so have been reloading components. And I should probably stop buying that stuff as well since there is not urgency to continue to be overstocked. Yeah, I have a problem....
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I know gun sales have slowed. Just wondering if, besides rapback, if not having the threat of gun confiscation over your head is also a factor?
Rapback is THE reason I haven't already renewed my long gun permit. I had just switched from Kaiser to HMSA in November...perfect timing right?
As Mack of Military Arms Channel so succinctly put it..."Registration always leads to confiscation."
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So are Police Officers registered in Rapback?
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So are Police Officers registered in Rapback?
If they register a private firearm
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And I should probably stop buying that stuff as well since there is not urgency to continue to be overstocked. Yeah, I have a problem....
We should probably start a reloading support group, especially if we're hurting the ones we love.
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I refuse to buy anything in this state, it is frustrating, but really taking moving to a state that has rights.
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So are Police Officers registered in Rapback?
That is a good question, anyone have an answer?
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That is a good question, anyone have an answer?
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They are registered for their job as a position of trust.
They must be registered a second time if they get a personal firearm, which most will have.
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I don’t see as many military people carting in their arsenal into HPD. I suspect they made the decision to not bring their guns with them to their duty station.
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I don’t see as many military people carting in their arsenal into HPD. I suspect they made the decision to not bring their guns with them to their duty station.
Or not to register them and keep them on base housing where HPD has no jurisdiction
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I'm not very happy with my handguns right now and would have upgraded for sure if it wasn't for rapback. Something is better than nothing I suppose.
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Or not to register them and keep them on base housing where HPD has no jurisdiction
HPD has "concurrent jurisdiction" with the military police on ALL the bases on Oahu. If there are warrants issued to a service member on a military base HPD/Deputy Sheriff's will serve the warrant, inform the MP's on the base and confiscate firearms surrendered by the service member. State of Hawaii Deputy Sheriff's have the same jurisdiction across the state.
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Rapback is THE reason I haven't already renewed my long gun permit.
I too did not bother to renew, figured it would require rapshit, but never asked, either.
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I don’t see as many military people carting in their arsenal into HPD. I suspect they made the decision to not bring their guns with them to their duty station.
When I'm in line, 3/4 of the line are military and many of those are in uniform.
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I concede.
I didn't buy anything since cRapBack was instated.
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When I'm in line, 3/4 of the line are military and many of those are in uniform.
I've seen that. What I referred to are those that use a cart filled with rifle cases. At least in the last six or so times I've been back in the past year...
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I've seen that. What I referred to are those that use a cart filled with rifle cases. At least in the last six or so times I've been back in the past year...
Most military I know (and I was one) do not have huge gun collections. Guns in base housing have many restrictions, including storing the guns in the base armory if living in on-base quarters.
The most enthusiastic gun owner in my Oklahoma office was a Staff Sgt who liked to hunt and shoot skeet. He lived off-base, yet his collection was still a couple of .44 Nighthawk/Redhawk pistols, a semi-auto shotgun, and a Citori O/U he bought for skeet. I believe he only had one rifle for hunting. He was an avid reloader, too.
So, I'm not sure where you got this idea that all military will need a "cart" to register their "arsenal", but it's entirely bogus for most enlisted. Some higher ranking officers I have seen carried in half a dozen long guns and about as many pistols, but that's the exception, not the norm.
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I haven't renewed my long gun permit and bought anything in part due to rapback, but mainly that I don't really need anything else. There's some used deals that I was considering and probably would've bought if it was not for rapback.
Seems like the classifieds are a bit slower nowadays. Rapback combined with people already have what they need. There's lots of gun stores out there now, wonder if some will start to close up. Hopefully some of them will get politically active this legislative season as a way to differentiate themselves from the rest.
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rapback is something i chose to just deal with, and bite the bullet on. everyone dealing with it their own way. There's a lot of stuff I've been buying that I wouldn't have been able to if I was worried about rapback. As far as second hand sales, the way I look at it is there's less buying competition for me. The 1911 releases next year, and I really do want one to go with my garand and carbine.
And chances are, along with "gun insurance" and other idiotic new law proposals, expanding rapback to all firearm owners is a real possibility. So it'll all be a moot point if they tell you to either apply for rapback by XX date or turn in all your guns.
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I haven’t bought anything since Rapback started. Mostly because I have what I need and want and did some buying ahead of both the ‘16 election and Rapback. Yeah, there are guns that I would like to buy since that time, but my gun fund has also gone down, so focusing that mostly on ammo and other accessories, also training where I can.
I haven’t ruled out giving. If I did, a CZ P10c and a couple others are tops of the list. I’ve also been considering selling one or two guns, but seems like the market isn’t looking good for that, so I’ll hold out.
BTW, anyone looking for a Hungarian AK with wood thumbhole stock? :P ;D
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With all the hate about rapback, did anyone submit a bill to repeal rapback for next month's legislative session? Time is ticking.
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With all the hate about rapback, did anyone submit a bill to repeal rapback for next month's legislative session? Time is ticking.
roflmao
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roflmao
I know probably not going to be passed this year, but if there's a hearing then issues can be brought up like why are we paying for something that isn't up and running. Prep work for the future.
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for something that isn't up and running.
might be counter-productive, might make them actually start inputting the data? are they? instead of just letting it pile up until it becomes its' own insurmountable labor manpower drain.
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Thank you sir may I have another.
( animal House reference )
Ever spent time in a Mexican prison?
(Fletch reference)
As a political force we don't exist.
We will take whatever they're serving.
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I know probably not going to be passed this year, but if there's a hearing then issues can be brought up like why are we paying for something that isn't up and running. Prep work for the future.
we will find out soon when the registration numbers come out for the year whether it had an effect on gun ownership
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I inherited several valuable (and rare) firearms recently and in order for me to register them under my name I had to comply with the Rapback law. I didn't give it a second thought. I wasn't about to find out what punishment I could have faced if I didn't comply and register accordingly. I also am planning to add to my collection in the future so compliance is a must.
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It's insulting to me that we get included into a database that was meant to track potential sex predators (teachers, daycare workers, etc.). Mandatory firearm insurance would also be another insult.
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So, I'm not sure where you got this idea that all military will need a "cart" to register their "arsenal", but it's entirely bogus for most enlisted. Some higher ranking officers I have seen carried in half a dozen long guns and about as many pistols, but that's the exception, not the norm.
Why do you think that I think that all military people cart their arsenal? This is fun, your turn...
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I don’t see as many military people carting in their arsenal into HPD. I suspect they made the decision to not bring their guns with them to their duty station.
I've seen that. What I referred to are those that use a cart filled with rifle cases. At least in the last six or so times I've been back in the past year...
Why do you think that I think that all military people cart their arsenal? This is fun, your turn...
No, what's fun is watching people make contradictory remarks then try to argue over a single word. You didn't say how many military you've seen use carts filled with rifle cases in the past, nor do you say by how many that number has dropped. But you do make the comparison as if it was enough to get your attention.
So, how many would that be? I understand not "all". But you made it sound like that was the norm.
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