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Tools and Uses => Reloading => Topic started by: Rocky on April 21, 2017, 11:33:09 AM
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Friend wants me to reload 22/250 and .35 mm for him on my Dillon 550B
I'm totally lost in these cals and not finding a lot of info on reloading them. ???
I'm guessing the .308 base shell plate can be used for either .35 and 22/250 ? ;D
As I can't find either die(s) with Dillon, can/should I use RCBS 22/250 and .35 Rem dies o=in my Dillon 550B ? ::)
Thanks in advance.
"Don't blow me up" :shake: Rocky
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Friend wants me to reload 22/250 and .35 mm for him on my Dillon 550B
I'm totally lost in these cals and not finding a lot of info on reloading them. ???
I'm guessing the .308 base shell plate can be used for either .35 and 22/250 ? ;D
As I can't find either die(s) with Dillon, can/should I use RCBS 22/250 and .35 Rem dies o=in my Dillon 550B ? ::)
Thanks in advance.
"Don't blow me up" :shake: Rocky
Rocky :wave:
I don't load for either of these. And I don't own anything Dillon.
But the 22-250 should not be a problem. Same shell holder as the 30-06 and 308. Dies should be easy to find. I am surprised Dillon does not have them. RCBS makes very good dies so there should not be a problem there. I should have plenty of load data at home as well.
But the .35 is a bit of a puzzle to me. Is it .35 Remington? .35 Winchester SL or .35 Whelen? The .35 Remington is old and not a common cartridge. The .35 Whelen is a much newer cartridge. I'll just ignore the .35 Winchester. I should have load data for the .35 Whelen and the .35 Remington.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
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Rocky :wave:
I don't load for either of these. And I don't own anything Dillon.
But the 22-250 should not be a problem. Same shell holder as the 30-06 and 308. Dies should be easy to find. I am surprised Dillon does not have them. RCBS makes very good dies so there should not be a problem there. I should have plenty of load data at home as well.
But the .35 is a bit of a puzzle to me. Is it .35 Remington? .35 Winchester SL or .35 Whelen? The .35 Remington is old and not a common cartridge. The .35 Whelen is a much newer cartridge. I'll just ignore the .35 Winchester. I should have load data for the .35 Whelen and the .35 Remington.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
.35 Rem my good man.
I think it's the same as or comparable to .35 Whelen
Same shell holder as the 308 ?
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.35 Rem my good man.
I think it's the same as or comparable to .35 Whelen
Same shell holder as the 308 ?
.35 Remington uses an oddball RCBS shell holder. It is a #9 in RCBS and a #2 for Lee. However, Lee also lists a #2 for the 22-250. So the same shell holder for the .308 might work for the .35 Remy.
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.35 Remington uses an oddball RCBS shell holder. It is a #9 in RCBS and a #2 for Lee. However, Lee also lists a #2 for the 22-250. So the same shell holder for the .308 might work for the .35 Remy.
#2Lee is also designated for .308.
http://www.handloads.com/misc/shellholders.asp
So I can use my Dillon .308 base shell plate (shell holder) ? :D
I guess I'll just have to shove one in and ram it up there ! :shake:
If it stay's in, it's good. :thumbsup:
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22-250 should be the same shell holder as 308. A 308 shell holder might work for 35 Remington. The base and rim on the 35 Remington is a bit smaller than the 308 (0.460" vs 0.473"), so close that people will use 308 to form 35 Remington and file off the excess base left behind. I've never done it but I have a 35 Remington back home I was about to convert some brass for, but then I moved and left the rifle behind.
35 Remington doesn't have a parent case that I know of, and it was designed before the 0.473" rim size was the gold standard in American cartridges.
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I wouldn't load any of these, or any rifle rounds on a progressive press. Just too many thing to look out for and too many problems that could be overlooked. That's just me and MHO...
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I wouldn't load any of these, or any rifle rounds on a progressive press. Just too many thing to look out for and too many problems that could be overlooked. That's just me and MHO...
Hey Heavies :wave:
I guess we kinda agree
We've been loading .308 and only .308 (for rifle) for awhile now.
Use the 550B to de-prime, neck size (one gun).
Inspect :thumbsup:
Clean shells
Inspect :thumbsup:
Prime
Inspect :thumbsup:
Hand measure all powder loads
Inspect :thumbsup:
then seat w/ 550B.
Inspect :thumbsup:
I feel better this way than actually using the 550B as a "progressive" for rifle rounds.
Same process will be used for all rifle rounds
Had 1 in about 1,000 misfire which was a primer strike and failure to fire. :P
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I wouldn't load any of these, or any rifle rounds on a progressive press. Just too many thing to look out for and too many problems that could be overlooked. That's just me and MHO...
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Yeah, agree
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Yeah, agree
+1 I tried reloading 223, 308, and even a few 300 BO on my Dillon. I now load all rifle cartridges on my rock chucker.
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Handy Dillon Crossover reference via Brian Enos. :worship:
Caliber Conversion Kits for different calibers sometimes have the same Shellplate in each Conversion Kit.
Let’s call that a conversion "Crossover."
If this will be the case for the Caliber Conversion Kits you will buy, you do not have to buy complete Caliber Conversion Kits for each caliber. :thumbsup:
http://brianenos.com/pages/dillon/cal.conv.chart
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22-250 was based on a 250 Savage Case. 35 Rem is not the same case as a 30-06. If you are talking 35 Whelen that is basically a 30-06 necked up to a 38 cal bullet. I would not load large rifle cases on a Dillon as the sizing operation is hard. Small rifle cases like 223 or 5.56 or 30 Carbine, 300 Blk can be loaded on a Dillon but to make it easy I would buy carbide dies.
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"22-250 was based on a 250 Savage Case."
Actually, it was based off of the Savage 25-3000 parent case,
35 Rem is not the same case as a 30-06.
No, it's based off of a .308 case, necked down.
If you are talking 35 Whelen that is basically a 30-06 necked up to a 38 cal bullet.
No, it's not 35 Whelen I said 35 Rem.
I would not load large rifle cases on a Dillon as the sizing operation is hard.
"I use the 550B to de-prime, neck size (one gun).
Inspect :thumbsup:
Clean shells
Inspect :thumbsup:
Prime
Inspect :thumbsup:
Hand measure all powder loads
Inspect :thumbsup:
then seat w/ 550B.
Inspect :thumbsup:"
Small rifle cases like 223 or 5.56 or 30 Carbine, 300 Blk can be loaded on a Dillon but to make it easy I would buy carbide dies.
Lube'm !
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35 rem is not based off the 308 case and does not share the same rim diameter. They're close but not the same. 0.473" vs 0.460". The Remington cartridge lineup introduced in 1906 included the 25, 30, and 32 Remington which were basically made from a rimless 30-30 case; and the 35 Remington which was based on a rimless 30-40 Krag case.
I've tried cutting 30-30 cases on a lathe to form 25 rem cases because they're pretty hard to find. It was too much work and I found a company doing a run of brass so I purchased a few hundred, which would've took weeks to make myself. 30-40 Krag is harder to find than 35 rem brass so there's no way I'd ever try to cut them from 30-40 krag, and it's way easier to reform 308 and trim the rim down.
http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.35+Remington.html (http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.35+Remington.html)
22-250 is like a cousin of 308, and could be formed from 308 pretty easy if a person wanted to do it.
I put a lot of work into getting my model 8's fed back home and did a lot of reading on cartridge conversions for them so I figure this is one topic I could chime in on. I have a PDF book on brass forming that was very helpful that I could share as well. And yea, I wouldn't want to go through the work of setting up a progressive press for either 35 rem or 22-250 if I wasn't shooting tons of it.
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35 rem is not based off the 308 case and does not share the same rim diameter. They're close but not the same. 0.473" vs 0.460".
SORRY, WAS MIXING UP MY 22-250 WITH .35 :oops:
I've tried cutting 30-30 cases on a lathe to form 25 rem cases because they're pretty hard to find. It was too much work and I found a company doing a run of brass so I purchased a few hundred, which would've took weeks to make myself. 30-40 Krag is harder to find than 35 rem brass so there's no way I'd ever try to cut them from 30-40 krag, and it's way easier to reform 308 and trim the rim down.
http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.35+Remington.html (http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.35+Remington.html)
22-250 is like a cousin of 308, and could be formed from 308 pretty easy if a person wanted to do it.
I USE .308 DILLON BASE PLATE WITH 22-250
I put a lot of work into getting my model 8's fed back home and did a lot of reading on cartridge conversions for them so I figure this is one topic I could chime in on. I have a PDF book on brass forming that was very helpful that I could share as well. And yea, I wouldn't want to go through the work of setting up a progressive press for either 35 rem or 22-250 if I wasn't shooting tons of it.
It's not even for me so as much as I love the guy, he don't get that much love. :rofl:
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Hi Rocky!!! :wave:
Missed you on Sunday.
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Hi Rocky!!! :wave:
Missed you on Sunday.
Rockette and I are supposed to be there this Sunday. :crazy:
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Rockette and I are supposed to be there this Sunday. :crazy:
Want Me to bring the Bergers?
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Want Me to bring the Bergers?
Thanks but no.
I picked up some partitions :D
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Thanks but no.
I picked up some partitions :D
Let me known how the ammo works out? :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: