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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: mrgaf on May 10, 2017, 10:11:49 PM
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Gonna call Ruger tomorrow as ask what retail outlets are handling this. Don't think anyone will ship here but my buddy FFL dealer in Fairbanks said he'll order one for me (totally legal in Alaska) and since it's not a firearm I'll take a trip up north and bring it south in my luggage or leave it with him till we can figure out another but either way, I'm ordering one..... :D
http://ruger.com/micros/silent-sr-ISB/index.html
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Gonna call Ruger tomorrow as ask what retail outlets are handling this. Don't think anyone will ship here but my buddy FFL dealer in Fairbanks said he'll order one for me (totally legal in Alaska) and since it's not a firearm I'll take a trip up north and bring it south in my luggage or leave it with him till we can figure out another but either way, I'm ordering one..... :D
http://ruger.com/micros/silent-sr-ISB/index.html
no one on this forum does anything illegal...
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no one on this forum does anything illegal...
:D
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Nice :thumbsup:
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Suppressors are like crack cocaine. You don't want any of it to be found in your possession or it's felony. You could try to claim that it's not yours and you're just holding it for a buddy, but good luck with that.
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My guess this is a class 3 idem, Not legal in hawaii. Even if you could buy, You would need to do an ATF form 4 would take 6 months to clear. and have Police to OK the tranfer. Not going to happen here.
davek42
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My guess this is a class 3 idem, Not legal in hawaii. Even if you could buy, You would need to do an ATF form 4 would take 6 months to clear. and have Police to OK the tranfer. Not going to happen here.
davek42
Still gonna attempt although it will stay in Alaska. My bud is a class 3. >:(
Rugers site states it is a class 3 device!
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Suppressors are like crack cocaine. You don't want any of it to be found in your possession or it's felony. You could try to claim that it's not yours and you're just holding it for a buddy, but good luck with that.
You could become a police officer and then purchase one, thats about the only legal way to get one here.
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You could become a police officer and then purchase one, thats about the only legal way to get one here.
A cop in HPD!?! Look, even I have standards I tell ya! :geekdanc:
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A cop in HPD!?! Look, even I have standards I tell ya! :geekdanc:
You could be a sheriff or Harbor police as well. DLNR, and there are a few other agencies that qualify as LEO I believe. Depends how bad you want a silencer.
I don't know though, this accessory is pretty awesome.
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The product description states:
"Reduces sound pressure levels of .22 LR to an average of 113.2 dB with standard velocity ammunition."
That doesn't seem like much reduction. Seems like unsuppressed 22 lr in a rifle is around 134 db and the threshold for pain is around 120 db.
Just wondering how much it would really help. That said, people think that shooting suppressed can be like "pssst, pssst" like in the movies. I can tell you that I learned the hard way that rifle rounds, especially the supersonic loads, are still pretty darn loud. :o
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The product description states:
"Reduces sound pressure levels of .22 LR to an average of 113.2 dB with standard velocity ammunition."
That doesn't seem like much reduction. Seems like unsuppressed 22 lr in a rifle is around 134 db and the threshold for pain is around 120 db.
Just wondering how much it would really help. That said, people think that shooting suppressed can be like "pssst, pssst" like in the movies. I can tell you that I learned the hard way that rifle rounds, especially the supersonic loads, are still pretty darn loud. :o
A 1db reduction is a 30% reduction. So thats a huge reduction in volume.
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A 1db reduction is a 30% reduction. So thats a huge reduction in volume.
I mean I get that it's a good amount of reduction. But my points were it's not like the reduction for this particular product will make it whisper quiet (not that anyone here stated or implied that) and was wondering if the reduction level was enough to warrant even being considered a suppressor. Yeah, it reduces the dbs, but not like the shooter could go without ear pro.
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Difference between 113 to 134db is 11x sound pressure, and 125x intensity. That is a massive difference in energy.
You don't hear as big of a difference since you're ears are "maxed out" or at the limits of hearing loudness by then, but your hearing is still getting damaged. Something most people don't know.
Now that I thought about it, it's probably something that an audiologist should've brought up in testimony for the Suppressor bill.
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Frequency, intensity and duration are key considerations. That said, the reduction from >130 db to <120 is supposed to bring the level of intensity down from "instant damage" to "some damage". Which appears to be the intent here. Again, my point was more along the lines of wondering if that was a big deal as long as you're going to still need ear pro anyways for this item, regardless of the good amount of sound/energy reduction.
On another note, I have noticed that the frequency of shots seems to bother me more these days, at least the higher pitched ones. When I get to the range and park, but before I get my ear pro on and walk up to the range itself, I've noticed that the high pitched ones seem to bother me more. Not positive on what they are though.
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Back pressure and sound is also a concern. While the muzzle volume may drop you also want to consider the volume at the receiver which is much closer to your ear. The standard is at the muzzle but as one company pointed out the ejection port was actually above safe levels on many ARs with suppressors.
Just something to think about with suppressors and hearing protection. Not sure if .22lr would have a lot of sound coming out of the receiver or not though.