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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: Kingkeoni on February 08, 2012, 08:27:59 AM

Title: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: Kingkeoni on February 08, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
While perusing Yahoo Answers, I found this question.

"Where is the real birth certificate?
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya, East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
Source(s):
Resources: http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx (http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx) Post-colonial history (from Wikipedia)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya) "


Interesting
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: SpeedTek on February 08, 2012, 08:47:15 AM
I thought we discussed this before but if you go to the whitehouse.gov and download his long form birth certicate and zoom in on it you will see that it is a forgery or go on youtube and check it out.

Also If his Father was a British subject he cant be POTUS because he is not a Natural Born Citizen.  A NBC is someone whose both parents are Citizens of the USA at time of birth.

Fraud in the Whitehouse!

Youtube: Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY#)

Also look up his Social Security Number that is also FAKE!
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: vooduchikn on February 08, 2012, 08:52:16 AM

Also If his Father was a British subject he cant be POTUS because he is not a Natural Born Citizen.

But he is the president.... now what?
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: tonsofguns on February 08, 2012, 09:51:39 AM
I say we grab our pitchforks and shovels, light torches, and march to the palace!!

Its what peasants do right?
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: Tom_G on February 08, 2012, 09:52:49 AM
"Where is the real birth certificate?
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya, East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

1.  The "race of father" space clearly says "African." 

2.  The Republic of Kenya did not exist until 1964.  However, prior to that, the area had been known as the Kenya African National Union since 1957.  As early as 1885, when Germany established a protectorate in the area, the name "Kenya" was in the title in some form.

3. In 1978 the name of the hospital changed to "Kapiā€˜olani Medical Center for Women & Children."  The name on the form is correct, as the hospital changed its name in 1931 to "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital."

So all 3 of the premises listed here are false.  Hell, 2 of them outright lie about what's on the form.  This is what you get for trusting the internet without bothering to do a little research.  Hell, you're USING the internet to read this, why not take a few seconds to investigate before you propagate? 

I downloaded the form.  Zoomed way the hell in.  Nothing about it says "forgery" to me.

Which isn't to say that there isn't a question about whether Obama is a NBC.  Just that this document is not a smoking gun.
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: tonsofguns on February 08, 2012, 09:55:40 AM
Its too late for logic and reason Tom. And the facts.

Are you storming the palace with us or not?!
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: GZire on February 08, 2012, 11:13:06 AM
...........Also If his Father was a British subject he cant be POTUS because he is not a Natural Born Citizen.  A NBC is someone whose both parents are Citizens of the USA at time of birth..........

As I understand it the foreign parents thing only applies if your parents are diplomats, other than that you're a citizen.


Anyhow...........storm the palace!!!
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: Tom_G on February 08, 2012, 11:24:03 AM
Its too late for logic and reason Tom. And the facts.

Are you storming the palace with us or not?!

Well, of course I'm storming the palace!  It's been waaaaaay too long since I had a good uprising!!
Title: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: DonRow on February 08, 2012, 02:01:21 PM
Fear not gentlemen I found the real birth certificate. As you can see he was clearly born in Hawaii. :rofl: lol

(http://img.tapatalk.com/465f4c7b-0c8e-4fdc.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: 808shooter on February 08, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
I thought we discussed this before but if you go to the whitehouse.gov and download his long form birth certicate and zoom in on it you will see that it is a forgery or go on youtube and check it out.

Also If his Father was a British subject he cant be POTUS because he is not a Natural Born Citizen.  A NBC is someone whose both parents are Citizens of the USA at time of birth.

Fraud in the Whitehouse!

Youtube: Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY#)

Also look up his Social Security Number that is also FAKE!


that is an amazing video series.  Good find
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: SpeedTek on February 08, 2012, 03:49:14 PM
On the long form BC the Registrar is U K Lele.  I asked my friends who were born in 1961 who there Registrar is and it is not U K Lele...

How many people do you know start with the letter U?  :wacko:

THREAD JACK!:
Holder tells Congress the Obama administration wants to ban guns

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/holder-tells-congress-the-obama-administration-wants-to-ban-guns/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/holder-tells-congress-the-obama-administration-wants-to-ban-guns/)  :stopjack:
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: Cougar8045 on February 08, 2012, 05:24:59 PM
On the long form BC the Registrar is U K Lele.  I asked my friends who were born in 1961 who there Registrar is and it is not U K Lele...

How many people do you know start with the letter U?  :wacko:

THREAD JACK!:
Holder tells Congress the Obama administration wants to ban guns

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/holder-tells-congress-the-obama-administration-wants-to-ban-guns/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/holder-tells-congress-the-obama-administration-wants-to-ban-guns/)  :stopjack:
No way is the registrar U K Lele.  Nobody is stupid enough to put that on a forgery.  U K Lele?  Yoo Kay LayLay?   Ukulele?  I haven't looked at the long form to verify, but I'm pretty sure that's a joke someone started.  I. P. Freely?  I. M. Boring?  No way.
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: SpeedTek on February 08, 2012, 05:46:28 PM
This is the Real Long Form BC of Obama.

You can see it for yourself its all over the web.

If you take this BC and zoom in you will see all kinds of pixelations as if someone forged it! Duh!

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Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: tonsofguns on February 08, 2012, 06:20:48 PM
U K Lele? What was his doctors name, Don Ho?
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: Cougar8045 on February 08, 2012, 06:55:10 PM
U K Lele? What was his doctors name, Don Ho?
I stand corrected.  The registrar on the BC actually is U [squiggly line] Lee.  lol  That's so stupid it's almost an argument for authenticity! 
Title: Re: Obama's birth certificate
Post by: SpeedTek on February 08, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
I interpet it as U K L Lee