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Tools and Uses => Reloading => Topic started by: MMM on June 10, 2017, 06:16:03 PM
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Started cranking out 223 with everything going well until......
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Ouch :o
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Ouch :o
Now what?! 😱
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RCBS makes a shell remover kit for around $20. Or you can check out this link:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?27630-DIY-Stuck-Case-Remover
The last time I stuck a case I went online and a new die was on sale so I just bought a new one.
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Now what?! 😱
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I tried all kinds of ways to get it out...none worked.
Bought a new die.
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Been there, done that a few times. Lee FL die? Remove the jam nut and pin and use a punch/ rod to tap it out. Use quality lube will minimize that. I use RCBS or Imperial
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Been there, done that a few times. Lee FL die? Remove the jam nut and pin and use a punch/ rod to tap it out. Use quality lube will minimize that. I use RCBS or Imperial
Yes, pin is jammed in there too. May sacrifice the pin and tap it out then try and tap out or press out shell.
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FOR SALE: slightly used, homemade stuck shell case remover.
made a jig using 2x4's, washers, screws. 2 whacks with a hammer and pin and stuck case popped out. :shaka:
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cool
still trying to visualize how you did it
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(http://slightlywarped.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/fab6b1e5d24ee07bbdaf8333e2b7a3cf09bc22ba661105287726b38ee0b75bd5.jpg)
Now get back to reloading...
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How many days does "Day 1 Reloading" take? It's been 3 already. :D
:geekdanc:
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How many days does "Day 1 Reloading" take? It's been 3 already. :D
:geekdanc:
it's been a long day! :shake:
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RCBS makes a shell remover kit for around $20. Or you can check out this link:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?27630-DIY-Stuck-Case-Remover
The last time I stuck a case I went online and a new die was on sale so I just bought a new one.
Had a similar experience reloading one of those 22/250's :grrr:
Used the drill and tap 1/4 x 20 and worked out well. :thumbsup:
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APPLAUSE!!!
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I just started reloading too and the decapping pin on my die got bent on my 10th brass. Used a Lee lube that came with my kit and 500 case later and no stuck case.
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I just started reloading too and the decapping pin on my die got bent on my 10th brass. Used a Lee lube that came with my kit and 500 case later and no stuck case.
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It happens.
If possible, I keep spares.
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I've been applying lube from a spray bottle with a mixture of lube and alcohol. Can't say that I'm overly impressed with this method. I have experienced a number of incidents involving stuck cases using this method and the only time i can really resize the cases without fear of getting them stuck is when the cases are wet. I'm still learning how to be sensitive enough to know when a case is going to get stuck and to stop while I'm ahead.
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It happens.
If possible, I keep spares.
+1 on keeping spare pins - especially if sizing crimped military brass.
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+1 on keeping spare pins - especially if sizing crimped military brass.
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In my case, I get 9mm range pickup brass and sometimes there is a little rock stuck inside.
:(
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+1 on keeping spare pins - especially if sizing crimped military brass.
i don't have a spare but i have a manual decapping base and pin. I cut the bent pin and just used it for resizing.
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It happens.
If possible, I keep spares.
Definitely, keep spares for my RCBS. I have never broken or bent a Lee yet. The decapper slipping up in the Lee die has saved the decapping pin a couple of times. I also have the Lee universal decapping die and have used this die for decapping military crimped cases so I am not decapping and sizing at the same time. However, after many years of dealing with military crimped cases I have decided to try and avoid military crimped cases if at all possible now. Sometimes spending a few dollars on new reloadable cases in place of using range pick ups is worth the time savings.
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Not the reloading expert, but it got stuck on the decapping/resizing die? For me, I've found that necked down cases tend to be more of a PITA than straight walled cases. Brand new cases will run through the resizer easily, but used cases will generally need to be lubed lightly before run through the press or you risk it getting stuck. If you think a case might be getting stuck, don't run it all the way in the press, you'll make things worse. You should try to back it out, if it continues to be stuck, you should pull the decapping pin, then spray the shit out of it with lube. Wait a while, then put the die back in the press and try to back it out again. It should come out.
If it still won't come out, you probably need to keep lubing it, and try to torque/twist it out with a vice grip or something. Alternatively, you could probably clamp the die in a bench vice, then use a correct sized punch or something to hammer the case out from the top (after you pulled the decapping unit from the die. Not sure about using that method though. lol
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I wouldn't know how to deal with that. If it ever happened to me. Though from my day 1 of reloading, I pulled out the decapping pin and expander ball out of my Redding FL die. Now I use a Redding type S FL die, but I still pulled out the pin and the expander. I don't know if that causes stuck cases if you use them. I also use a decapping die on the single press. btw, Midway has a huge sale and clearance on all brands of dies. Might wanna check that out. Oh, don't know if it matters but I use Redding Imperial wax on the body. And Redding Imperial Dry Neck Lube Convenience Pak on the neck. Yea I know, too much process but sizing is smooth.
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Good to know about Midway. Too bad their shipping fees suck.
I'm thinking of switching to the RCBS .223 Rem/5.56 x 45 SB T/C Die Set (Prime). The RCBS seems easier to clean than the Lee and I'm getting tired of the neck lube dents.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063IE20W/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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Good to know about Midway. Too bad their shipping fees suck.
I'm thinking of switching to the RCBS .223 Rem/5.56 x 45 SB T/C Die Set (Prime). The RCBS seems easier to clean than the Lee and I'm getting tired of the neck lube dents.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063IE20W/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Begs the question why do you put lube on the necks?
I have the same problem with my RCBS FL dies for my MN. The lock nut just happens to cover the vent hole and I get the neck dents. I stopped full length sizing and went to strictly neck sizing with neck sizing die without any lube and that stopped the dents.
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What does dents like? I inspect my cases but don't know what to look for if there is any dents.
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What does dents like? I inspect my cases but don't know what to look for if there is any dents.
looks like dents, can be dents or dings on case mouth, dents in the shoulder or body, dents in the rims. Normally small enough dents aren't too big of an issue as long as you can run them through the dies. if youre having trouble with the dented case, its easier to just throw them out rather than potentially run into other problems imo. Sharp or deep dents, you should just throw out. If the case mouth is squashed or something, you can use a punch or something round to fix its shape before running in die. Hopefully you wont get it stuck.
Depending on the gun type itself, the ejection of the case onto the ground, etc, it can be really hard on cases. Mainly autoloaders IMO.
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Yea I know the general dents. But how does not using neck lube stop dents? Sorry, should had been more specific on my question.
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Yea I know the general dents. But how does not using neck lube stop dents? Sorry, should had been more specific on my question.
Putting lube on the neck and shoulder area causes the case to "hydraulic" while FL Sizing. The lube pressed between the Die and case can not compress so the case gets dents. Usually from applying too much lube. A little goes a long way.
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U can apply lube to the inside of the neck for easing over the expander ball. Not the outside though
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Putting lube on the neck and shoulder area causes the case to "hydraulic" while FL Sizing. The lube pressed between the Die and case can not compress to the case gets dents. Usually from applying too much lube. A little goes a long way.
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Don't know about other dies but my RCBS dies all have a vent hole in the body of the die in the thread area. The vent lets the air pressure out. So the dents don't occur. That is unless the lock nut is covering the vent hole like on my MN FL die. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I somehow got some lube up in there and it started to dent my cases on the shoulders. I sprayed some brake cleaner up in it and that got rid of the lube and it worked for a while until I somehow got more lube stuck up in there. I was going to buy a neck sizing die any way so it was a good excuse to buy it sooner than later. I also found that if I slowed my roll while FL sizing the cases it helped a lot to allow the trapped air to escape and not dent the cases.
I don't toss the cases if this occurs, I just "Choot'em" and the dents go away. The real problem is that the denting of the cases affects case life somewhat.
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Don't know about other dies but my RCBS dies all have a vent hole in the body of the die in the thread area. The vent lets the air pressure out. So the dents don't occur. That is unless the lock nut is covering the vent hole like on my MN FL die. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I somehow got some lube up in there and it started to dent my cases on the shoulders. I sprayed some brake cleaner up in it and that got rid of the lube and it worked for a while until I somehow got more lube stuck up in there. I was going to buy a neck sizing die any way so it was a good excuse to buy it sooner than later. I also found that if I slowed my roll while FL sizing the cases it helped a lot to allow the trapped air to escape and not dent the cases.
I don't toss the cases if this occurs, I just "Choot'em" and the dents go away. The real problem is that the denting of the cases affects case life somewhat.
Yeah, the lock nut tends to cover the vent hole on the Lee. Bad design. I got a RCBS neck sizing die for the bolt rifle. The expanding ball is really easy to remove compared to the Lee. Practically no tools required. I suppose a spray of brake cleaner would do the trick, plus I can get a quick buzz off the fumes.
Occasionally, the lube will spread to the neck. I don't believe it makes the case unsafe but changes the case volume so potentially can affect accuracy depending on the size of the dent. I've been using Dillon Case Lube which works well. The spray gets on the body and the neck. HGS sells it for $17. I've also been trying the Imperial Sizing Wax and the Dry Lube. I like the wax but makes my hand slimy after resizing several dozen. The dry Lube didn't work well which is too bad because I liked how it lubed both the inside and outside. Hmm... Perhaps I wasn't inserting the case far enough into the dry lube.
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Yeah, the lock nut tends to cover the vent hole on the Lee. Bad design. I got a RCBS neck sizing die for the bolt rifle. The expanding ball is really easy to remove compared to the Lee. Practically no tools required. I suppose a spray of brake cleaner would do the trick, plus I can get a quick buzz off the fumes.
Occasionally, the lube will spread to the neck. I don't believe it makes the case unsafe but changes the case volume so potentially can affect accuracy depending on the size of the dent. I've been using Dillon Case Lube which works well. The spray gets on the body and the neck. HGS sells it for $17. I've also been trying the Imperial Sizing Wax and the Dry Lube. I like the wax but makes my hand slimy after resizing several dozen. The dry Lube didn't work well which is too bad because I liked how it lubed both the inside and outside. Hmm... Perhaps I wasn't inserting the case far enough into the dry lube.
In addition to not being drunk don't be high when reloading too :thumbsup:
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Aww, can't have any fun...
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In addition to not being drunk don't be high when reloading too :thumbsup:
Damn RK I took your u for more of a drunk than I did a whiffer. :rofl:
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Damn RK I took your u for more of a drunk than I did a whiffer. :rofl:
I prefer the term, huffer. :wacko: