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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: dirtylickins on June 14, 2017, 06:59:10 AM

Title: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: dirtylickins on June 14, 2017, 06:59:10 AM
Happening now active shooter in san francisco UPS facilities. Couple dead bodies on the ground. This is in addition to Virginia today. This is on 17th and San Bruno if you know .
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: punaperson on June 14, 2017, 07:02:03 AM
Happening now active shooter in san francisco UPS facilities. Couple dead bodies on the ground. This is in addition to Virginia today.
Without looking at all, let me guess: UPS does not allow employees to bear arms on site? Of course I also understand that the issuance of CCW in San Francisco is approximately the same as Hawaii (zero), and like Hawaii, open carry is (officially) banned.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 14, 2017, 09:03:41 AM
Without looking at all, let me guess: UPS does not allow employees to bear arms on site? Of course I also understand that the issuance of CCW in San Francisco is approximately the same as Hawaii (zero), and like Hawaii, open carry is (officially) banned.

Most likely even if you had a CA CCW, you probably can't carry in a federal facility which USPS is probably.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: oldfart on June 14, 2017, 10:12:42 AM
Most likely even if you had a CA CCW, you probably can't carry in a federal facility which USPS is probably.
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UPS is under federal jurisdiction?
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: punaperson on June 14, 2017, 10:16:34 AM
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UPS is under federal jurisdiction?
If Bernie got his way, everything would be, including your own home.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 14, 2017, 10:20:55 AM
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UPS is under federal jurisdiction?

Maybe not, but im sure there is a law that says you cant carry inside a post office, like how Nevada has one.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: zippz on June 14, 2017, 10:23:23 AM
Maybe not, but im sure there is a law that says you cant carry inside a post office, like how Nevada has one.

I think you mean the regular post office, USPS, United States Postal Service.  This took place at United Parcel Service, UPS.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 14, 2017, 10:24:31 AM
Maybe not, but im sure there is a law that says you cant carry inside a post office, like how Nevada has one.

Shooting at UPS, not USPS.

UPS is not a post office.  Private shipper.


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Police responded to a report of an active shooter around 8:55 a.m. local time (11:55 a.m. ET) at the UPS
San Francisco Customer Center, a couple of blocks east of Franklin Square. The package sorting and delivery
facility employs 350 people.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 14, 2017, 10:27:21 AM
Shooting at UPS, not USPS.

UPS is not a post office.  Private shipper.

I always get the 3 confused. Fedex, UPS, USPS.  The Fedex and UPS guys give me a dirty look when I give them the wrong box.  The wife sells a lot of stuff on ebay.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: punaperson on June 14, 2017, 10:27:41 AM
From the "UPS Code Of Business Conduct" (http://www.ups.com/content/corp/code_conduct.html)

"We also prohibit the unauthorized possession and/or use of weapons by any employee while at work, on company property, or while on company business."

The UPS Code of Business Conduct can be viewed by anyone at ups.com.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 14, 2017, 10:29:49 AM
From the "UPS Code Of Business Conduct"

"We also prohibit the unauthorized possession and/or use of weapons by any employee while at work, on company property, or while on company business."

The UPS Code of Business Conduct can be viewed by anyone at ups.com.

Is unauthorized possession defined?  Because I am a law abiding citizen I am allowed to posses a firearm.  So can I carry?  Or do they mean you need UPS management authorization to carry?
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 14, 2017, 10:41:09 AM
Is unauthorized possession defined?  Because I am a law abiding citizen I am allowed to posses a firearm.  So can I carry?  Or do they mean you need UPS management authorization to carry?

That phrase normally means the company can authorize people to have firearms.

Kind of like the signs on doors that say "Authorized Personnel Only."


On Law&Order, Dennis Farina played Joe Fontana.  He used the line, "Oh, we're authorized" to get people to volunteer information, like patient records, etc.  It was in the script, but they all bought the line!   :rofl:
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 14, 2017, 10:47:58 AM
Some states passed laws you can not be barred from having firearms in parking lots belonging to the company, because that would directly require the employee to be disarmed during their commute to and from work.

I highly doubt California has such a law.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: Inspector on June 14, 2017, 11:04:07 AM
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UPS is under federal jurisdiction?
Sure is. They both start with capital U (for United).  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: punaperson on June 14, 2017, 11:08:17 AM
Sure is. They both start with capital U (for United).  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I wonder what the (dis-united) CPS (Confederate Parcel Service) policy is on firearms in the workplace?  :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: rklapp on June 14, 2017, 04:34:30 PM
I've been in the UPS Ontario Hub and it is literally a mile long filled with conveyor belts and loading docks and air ramps. No matter what happens at the Hub, the packages still have to be delivered.

I wonder if Flag Day has something to do with all the active shooters?
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: dustoff003 on June 14, 2017, 04:37:30 PM
I wonder if Flag Day has something to do with all the active shooters?

The US Army was established this day in 1775.



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Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 14, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
I've been in the UPS Ontario Hub and it is literally a mile long filled with conveyor belts and loading docks and air ramps. No matter what happens at the Hub, the packages still have to be delivered.

I wonder if Flag Day has something to do with all the active shooters?

I think it's backlash from the "disappointing" Comey hearings, and the fact Trump didn't get immediately led away in handcuffs.

From recounts, to faithless electors, to Russian hacker collusion, now to a non-existent cover-up, the anti-Trump ANTIFA whack jobs are at the end of their ropes. 

If they can't take Trump's presidency down within the system, they sit back hoping one of their rank-and-file snaps and does something like this.

it'll get worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 14, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
The US Army was established this day in 1775.



President Donald J. Trump

Born on this day, June 14, 1946
Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: dustoff003 on June 14, 2017, 04:47:41 PM

President Donald J. Trump

Born on this day, June 14, 1946

Thanks Doug!


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Title: Re: Welcome to active shooter Wednesday
Post by: Rocky on June 14, 2017, 04:57:41 PM
https://youtu.be/EqolSvoWNck?t=104