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General Topics => Strategies and Tactics => Topic started by: London808 on June 14, 2017, 11:06:40 AM

Title: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: London808 on June 14, 2017, 11:06:40 AM
So, What is your most popular camouflage colors.

Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 14, 2017, 11:10:43 AM
Black. I'm surrounded by concrete so if I ever haft to blend in, black is the best option.  Hence the color of my plate carrier.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: dustoff003 on June 14, 2017, 11:40:08 AM
Olive Drab


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Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: London808 on June 14, 2017, 11:42:08 AM
Im a fan of OD as well. It works great for non urban environments
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: Rocky on June 14, 2017, 11:49:17 AM
I always liked the VC tiger stripe but I think night time ops go to the "Digital Blueberry" .
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: London808 on June 14, 2017, 01:01:39 PM
What do you guys think works best for urban environments ?
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 14, 2017, 01:11:29 PM
What do you guys think works best for urban environments ?

The grey digital cam the army used before multi cam.  Unless you're in the desert urban then anything sand color.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: Bota-CS1 on June 14, 2017, 01:38:23 PM
I think Atacs is better in an urban environment.  I realized that I didn't do a good job explaining myself in my OP, so here goes.  There a many visual cues in our everyday world that our eyes key in on.  One of those things are well defined edges to objects, they tell use where one object begins and ends.  Like where a sidewalk ends and the street begins.  Our eyes naturally look for these edges to define our world and help up navigate.  So if your camo has lots of well defined edges, it naturally stands out to the human eye.  If your goal is concealment from the naked eye, you'll want to pick a pattern that has shapes that naturally blend into one another.

Color is also a consideration.  Despite what you might think, an urban environment isn't just grey.  While the public sidewalk may be grey, what dolor are the buildings?  Are they what you would call grey?

https://www.google.com/search?q=atacs&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=isnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM3Mjev77UAhUS22MKHaltDaMQ_AUICSgB&biw=414&bih=628#imgrc=99ATczGQ3NEI4M:
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: dustoff003 on June 14, 2017, 02:24:39 PM
The grey digital cam the army used before multi cam.  Unless you're in the desert urban then anything sand color.
The UCP is a POS camouflage pattern, I was so happy to get the OCP Scorpion W2 uniform. The OCP reminds me of my dear Woodland pattern from years past.

I like the old night desert pattern also.


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Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: suka on June 14, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
Jeans and T shirt for urban environments , blends right in with other civilians.  :wtf:
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: London808 on June 14, 2017, 05:27:46 PM
Jeans and T shirt for urban environments , blends right in with other civilians.  :wtf:

SMH,

This is why we cant have nice things
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: fishandshoot on June 15, 2017, 12:08:03 PM
LAPD swat rocks atacs . HPD swat uses od/ranger green.

Kryptek for me. Mandrake, highlander, or Typhon.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: Surf on June 15, 2017, 05:06:46 PM
Hard to beat a worn in woodland or tiger for the islands.  OD or ranger is a good solid color.  Black is not so great, even in an urban setting.  As far as I know LAPD D platoon is still lapd navy blue and black.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: Heavies on June 15, 2017, 10:08:41 PM
(https://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2.bp.blogspot.com/_cxmptAPYR-s/Ri5oc7aat-I/AAAAAAAAAtk/_VLydEBs3Co/s400/camojncouch.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: aaronc5362 on June 17, 2017, 01:26:16 PM
I personally like (spray painted my guns) black/khaki/ dark green.

I got some gray I wanna test. Prob gray/ jungle green/ black.

I guess it also depends on your own environment. I live nuuanu/pauoa so gray, black, green, khaki works well for me vs someone in say kahana valley. A lot of houses are white/ sand color by where I live.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: PalisadesKid on June 18, 2017, 12:30:38 AM
KRYPTEK INFERNO... Nah j/k LOL.

Personally Im loving Multicam Tropic, but for a tacticool purpose, I have a few Multicam Black items.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: Wichita on June 18, 2017, 01:16:36 PM
Back home I loved the natural gear, prairie ghost, trebark, and mossy oak brush camo patterns. Everything there was mostly brown.

I haven't got to go hunting in Hawaii yet, sadly.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: mangosteenqueen on June 19, 2017, 07:03:26 PM
Oh boy, something that I like to collect.
Besides Multicam:
I have a Russian Gorka-3 and those things work fantastic and are pretty neat, you can get them for around $50-80 (depending on where you order from) for both the pants and jacket together shipped from Russia (about 1.5 weeks to 3 weeks).
Pencott Greenzone and Badlands, Flecktarn, Russian partizan, KLMK, Berezka do pretty well as well as ATACS-FG.
I also have a set of Russian KZM sniper suits (dark green version) and they work pretty well too, and a reproduction German WW2 camo smock (they look ridiculous but they're generally reversible for different "seasons" and do a great job breaking the human silhouette.
M81 woodland works fine if you know how to use it as well as British DPM

Supposedly in the attached picture mix/match of camo since I'm new at this:
Grassy picture: (Left) Partizan top and multicam pants, (Right) Gorka-3 jacket and multicam pants with a multicam sniper veil. It was a rainy and cloudy day in a grassy field
Forest picture: (Left) Multicam set with a home made ghillie "hood" made with fish netting from Ben Franklins and burlap, (Right) KLMK oversuit top with 5.11 pants in Tundra color
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: mangosteenqueen on June 19, 2017, 07:21:53 PM
As for urban environments, I'd say tan/coyote would work pretty well. It really depends on whether you're breaking your outline like wearing a hooded smock or an Isareli Mitznefet or baggy camo clothing, whatever. Generally light and flat earth colors (tan, OD,)
Heck you can buy those winter white parkas and dye or spray paint them to fit the environment.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: London808 on June 19, 2017, 07:50:07 PM
I have some stuff in Coyote and some in OD,

I figured the Coyote can be spray painted whatever olors i needed to in a pinch and the OD looks ballin and when combined with the right Velcro patches can change the perception of others,

 I have this patch that i like right now.
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p200x200/19247891_10158877179225634_3632415817891666375_n.jpg?oh=96faa96d4397b72cc127b4a19f8e37b1&oe=59D3FEC1)

Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: mangosteenqueen on June 19, 2017, 08:30:28 PM
Yeah coyote, tan, and OD do very well for being patternless. Have you seen the SADF Nutria Brown or the IDF OD green?

You can learn quite a lot if you watch combat footage of the middle east and ukraine. (Hate to say it but knowledge also comes from the price of lives, and videos are valuable resources too)
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: mangosteenqueen on June 19, 2017, 08:55:19 PM
I dont even know if I uploaded the images correctly:

Supposedly in the attached picture mix/match of camo since I'm new at this:
Grassy picture: (Left) Partizan top and multicam pants, (Right) Gorka-3 jacket and multicam pants with a multicam sniper veil. It was a rainy and cloudy day in a grassy field
Forest picture: (Left) Multicam set with a home made ghillie "hood" made with fish netting from Ben Franklins and burlap, (Right) KLMK oversuit top with 5.11 pants in Tundra color

(http://i.imgur.com/XXmeBXO.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: mangosteenqueen on June 19, 2017, 08:57:56 PM
Well that took long enough
Probably because the image size is too large to proccess
(Left) Multicam set with home made ghillie hood, (Right) KLMK suit top with mask and 5.11 pants in Tundra color
(http://i.imgur.com/K6W9CIm.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: davgdavg on July 11, 2017, 08:07:08 PM
Yeah coyote, tan, and OD do very well for being patternless. Have you seen the SADF Nutria Brown or the IDF OD green?

You can learn quite a lot if you watch combat footage of the middle east and ukraine. (Hate to say it but knowledge also comes from the price of lives, and videos are valuable resources too)

Exactly. Olive drab with things to conceal the outline of "person". Concealing the outline and movement are much more important than colors.
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: Rocky on July 13, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
What do you guys think works best for urban environments ?

http://www.takepart.com/video/2016/09/29/see-man-wearing-30-days-worth-trash-around-nyc
Title: Re: Lets talk CAMO
Post by: mangosteenqueen on July 13, 2017, 04:33:44 PM
Tan and water (sumpftarn) and east german/NVA rain camo (strichtarn) seem to work pretty well.
Sumpftarn is usually only available as ww2 german camo smock reproductions. The smock designs may look funny but they sure do a great job breaking the human silhouette.