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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: punaperson on June 21, 2017, 09:27:19 AM
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That's right, you guessed it: More Ammo Control Needed!
This story is from Australia (which has a very long list of banned/illegal weapons), but California has already enacted legislation creating a special tax on ammo and requiring a background check for any ammo purchase. There is absolutely no reason to believe that this isn't the exact same line of "reasoning" held by almost all of our legislators here, who, if they thought they could, would undoubtedly enact similar legislation. I guess they've adopted the incrementalist strategy, and know that they can only succeed by sequentially taking away one portion of a right at a time. They've done a good job of it so far (bans on many weapons, registration, no-issue CCW, etc.), and I expect will keep at it until they achieve their goal of full citizen disarmament.
Australia Sees Spike in Gun Crime Despite Outright Ban
Firearms black market in the island nation bigger than previously thought
http://freebeacon.com/issues/australia-sees-spike-in-gun-crime-despite-outright-ban/
Excerpts:
Australia has seen a rise in gun crime over the past decade despite imposing an outright ban on many firearms in the late 1990s.
Charges for crimes involving firearms have increased dramatically across the island nation's localities in the past decade according to an analysis of government statistics conducted by The New Daily. It found that gun crimes have spiked dramatically in the Australian states of Victoria, New South Wales, South Australia, and Tasmania. In Victoria, pistol-related offenses doubled over the last decade. In New South Wales, they tripled. The other states saw smaller but still significant increases.
Gun control advocates in the country insist that the problem is too little regulation. They said, while most modern firearms are illegal and all legal firearms owners must obtain licenses from the government, ammunition is not controlled tightly enough.
"There is very little regulation of ammunition purchase," Samantha Lee, a spokesperson for Gun Control Australia, told the publication. "In most jurisdictions you can purchase ammunition because you have a firearm licence and there is no restriction on the type you can purchase – so if you own a rifle you can still purchase ammunition for a handgun."
"Gun enthusiasts are quite right when they say guns don’t kill–it’s the bullets that kill," Professor Alpers added. "For many years we just focused on the guns and ignored the ammunition that was lying around–now people are starting to realise that ammunition control is just as important."
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Next they ban or tax oxygen because you can't ignite anything without it...
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Next they ban or tax oxygen because you can't ignite anything without it...
Well, Kalifornia has started to tax cow farts. So I don't see anything unusual about Hawaii taxing oxygen. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I've always wondered how effective the Australian firearm ban is in the outback. I don't imagine a lot of ranchers turned in their rifles. I always hear from the anti-2a that if they can do it there, they can do it here. Sounds delusional to me.
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I'd have to dig up the cited info, but my Australian buddy sent me a bunch of data that showed steady rise in violent crime (not involving firearms) since the ban. So essentially, people aren't afraid to break into someone's house and assault homeowners. But then again, who follows laws anyways.
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I've always wondered how effective the Australian firearm ban is in the outback. I don't imagine a lot of ranchers turned in their rifles. I always hear from the anti-2a that if they can do it there, they can do it here. Sounds delusional to me.
The number of firearms-related crimes have gone way up (both shootings and non-shooting crimes, like possession, type of gun, number possessed, ...).
Basically, people who want guns will get them. People are breaking gun laws to both use in crimes and protect themselves against criminals and wildlife.
Gun-controlled Australia is witnessing gun crime at such high levels that state and federal officials are pushing
new controls that will do everything from enact a second national gun buyback to increase sentences for gun
crime and illegal gun possession.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/13/gun-controlled-australia-gun-control-pushed-fight-rising-gun-crime/
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I've always wondered how effective the Australian firearm ban is in the outback. I don't imagine a lot of ranchers turned in their rifles. I always hear from the anti-2a that if they can do it there, they can do it here. Sounds delusional to me.
Connecticut required only registration (not confiscation or "buy back") of "assault rifles" a few years back, and the high estimate of compliance is 15%. All those formerly law-abiding citizens are now criminals even though they've harmed no one and have simply continued to own property they already legally owned. How does that kind of "public safety" "legislation" cultivate respect for laws and law enforcement? It doesn't and it never will. But that issue is inconsequential to the advocates of civilian disarmament, and they are determined to eventually reach their goal... one step at a time.