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Title: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Teichi on August 15, 2017, 02:31:41 PM
The Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club will be hosting a President's 100 Rifle Match on Friday 22 September, a 800 Aggregate NRA Rifle Tournament on 23 September and a CMP Rifle Excellence in Competition Match on 24 September.

See attached documents for the details.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Bushido on August 16, 2017, 08:58:49 PM
Is the F-Class match in November cancelled?
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Jmoto808 on September 12, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Would love if Hawaii had more f class open / ftr matches! Definately a competition style that would be entertaining and might attract a lot of shooters since its a pretty simple sport to start in on a relatively low budget. Plus would be fun to test out some reloads at farther ranges or see what a 77gr berger can do at 600.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: ren on September 12, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
The Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club will be hosting a President's 100 Rifle Match on Friday 22 September, a 800 Aggregate NRA Rifle Tournament on 23 September and a CMP Rifle Excellence in Competition Match on 24 September.

See attached documents for the details.

it will be an "Aloha" Presidents 100. No tabs will be awarded.

a 77 SMK, Nosler or Berger would do well at 600. Some teams are shooting across the course with 77 loads. But for a mediocre shooter like myself I could use all that an 80 can offer.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Bushido on September 12, 2017, 08:22:38 PM
Would love if Hawaii had more f class open / ftr matches! Definately a competition style that would be entertaining and might attract a lot of shooters since its a pretty simple sport to start in on a relatively low budget. Plus would be fun to test out some reloads at farther ranges or see what a 77gr berger can do at 600.

Come out to the open practices. If more F-Class guys show up, maybe they'll increase the matches. Look into the Kauai Tactical Match as well. It may likely be an annual match since turnout was so good this year.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Jmoto808 on September 13, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
Come out to the open practices. If more F-Class guys show up, maybe they'll increase the matches. Look into the Kauai Tactical Match as well. It may likely be an annual match since turnout was so good this year.

Sounds awesome Bushido! Hopefully in the near future ill be able to invest more time into the sport snd join u guys. During the open practice is it still limited to 308, 223, 3006? What about calibers with similar ballistics like a 6BR or 6.5 creed or 260rem? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: ren on September 13, 2017, 05:47:23 PM
Sounds awesome Bushido! Hopefully in the near future ill be able to invest more time into the sport snd join u guys. During the open practice is it still limited to 308, 223, 3006? What about calibers with similar ballistics like a 6BR or 6.5 creed or 260rem? Thanks in advance.

just 223, 308 and 3006
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: zippz on September 13, 2017, 07:26:16 PM
Simple answer is the calibers that you want to shoot the match with you probably never will be able to.  Calibers you wouldn't want to shoot the match with have a chance of being approved in the future.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: zippz on September 13, 2017, 07:29:29 PM
FYI, here's a calculator that gives you the maximum range of a bullet. 

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmdist-5.1.cgi
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: ren on September 14, 2017, 09:16:41 AM
Simple answer is the calibers that you want to shoot the match with you probably never will be able to.  Calibers you wouldn't want to shoot the match with have a chance of being approved in the future.

 ??? :wacko:
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: zippz on September 14, 2017, 10:37:34 AM
The most frequent questions the club gets is "Can I shoot the match with X caliber?" which is those that exceed the performance of 30-06.  260, 6.5mm, 6mm, 300 winmag, 7mm, etc which will never be allowed unless the range SDZ's are redone and range is overhauled.

I don't usually get questions about 300 blackout,6.8spc, and others.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: ren on September 14, 2017, 11:56:44 AM
The most frequent questions the club gets is "Can I shoot the match with X caliber?" which is those that exceed the performance of 30-06.  260, 6.5mm, 6mm, 300 winmag, 7mm, etc which will never be allowed unless the range SDZ's are redone and range is overhauled.

I don't usually get questions about 300 blackout,6.8spc, and others.

just say 223, 308, 3006.
simple
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Bushido on September 14, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
just say 223, 308, 3006.
simple

Agreed. Those 3 calibers are proven to be accurate well past what the range has to offer. Including the 1K line! Allthough there are calibers that would make it "easier", let's make ourselves better instead.

I would not call shooting 2 hours next to a guy with a 338LM and a brake, a good day of shooting.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Jmoto808 on September 15, 2017, 05:20:04 PM
Agreed. Those 3 calibers are proven to be accurate well past what the range has to offer. Including the 1K line! Allthough there are calibers that would make it "easier", let's make ourselves better instead.

I would not call shooting 2 hours next to a guy with a 338LM and a brake, a good day of shooting.

Totally agreed, just wish there was more available calibers to pick from. I got a 6br on the way and wouldve loved to see how the short little guy bucks wind at distance. I can see the argument of guys wanting to shoot massively "overbored" magnums or shooting rounds with significant muzzle energy to make life easier. But theres a huge amount of cartridges designrd for the 600 yard line that are inherently efficient and pleasant on recoil / muzzle blast which are within 200-300 yards of effective range of the 3006 and 308. But again i understand the constraints to which the club is held. Thanks again fo the answers. 
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Jmoto808 on September 15, 2017, 05:30:29 PM
Guess this just gives me more of an excuse to work on a 308 build in the future though!  ;D
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Bushido on September 15, 2017, 07:41:29 PM
Totally agreed, just wish there was more available calibers to pick from. I got a 6br on the way and wouldve loved to see how the short little guy bucks wind at distance. I can see the argument of guys wanting to shoot massively "overbored" magnums or shooting rounds with significant muzzle energy to make life easier. But theres a huge amount of cartridges designrd for the 600 yard line that are inherently efficient and pleasant on recoil / muzzle blast which are within 200-300 yards of effective range of the 3006 and 308. But again i understand the constraints to which the club is held. Thanks again fo the answers.

There has been talks about some guys leasing private property to do PRS style matches. I personally don't see it happening due to real estate prices in Hawaii. I don't see it ever being profitable. I would be interested in hearing how that 6BR does for you though. The 6.5CM is all the rage right now, I feel there are better 6mm catridges out there.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Jmoto808 on September 15, 2017, 10:15:45 PM
There has been talks about some guys leasing private property to do PRS style matches. I personally don't see it happening due to real estate prices in Hawaii. I don't see it ever being profitable. I would be interested in hearing how that 6BR does for you though. The 6.5CM is all the rage right now, I feel there are better 6mm catridges out there.

If PRS came to Hawaii, I'm pretty sure id piss myself out of sheer joy. Ya i was stuck between 6BR and 6.5 x 47 Lapua but went with 6BR due to the efficiency and economics. 6BR only holds 30 ish grains of powder, uses small rifle primers (although some 6.5 creed brass does now), has lapua brass available, and super mild recoil. Only issue with 6BR is that its such a short little guy that sometimes it has feeding issues. But I'm building it off a Bighorn TL3 which lotta PRS guys have done since its a CRF action. But ya 6mm has a whole plethora of cartridges designed for F Class / PRS, maybe one day we can all enjoy em!
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Bushido on September 16, 2017, 12:19:48 PM
If PRS came to Hawaii, I'm pretty sure id piss myself out of sheer joy. Ya i was stuck between 6BR and 6.5 x 47 Lapua but went with 6BR due to the efficiency and economics. 6BR only holds 30 ish grains of powder, uses small rifle primers (although some 6.5 creed brass does now), has lapua brass available, and super mild recoil. Only issue with 6BR is that its such a short little guy that sometimes it has feeding issues. But I'm building it off a Bighorn TL3 which lotta PRS guys have done since its a CRF action. But ya 6mm has a whole plethora of cartridges designed for F Class / PRS, maybe one day we can all enjoy em!

I would gravitate towards PRS matches as well if we had some. I like the positions, platforms, barricades, etc... I would likely build a rifle for that. With the price of land in Hawaii, I'm not holding my breathe though. I may look into traveling to attend.


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Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: ren on September 16, 2017, 01:12:04 PM
Id like a 6.5 Creedmoor. More efficient than a 308. But at this time Im limited to Kokohead. Does Schofield allow?
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Jmoto808 on September 16, 2017, 06:27:21 PM
Id like a 6.5 Creedmoor. More efficient than a 308. But at this time Im limited to Kokohead. Does Schofield allow?

No clue, I tried to contact SRGC couple months ago about membership, but they said they were closed to "associate" members and they haven't been able to accept any for a long time due to the ratio required between military / DOD and civilians. Yet again, another hurdle to face while living in paradise. 6.5 Creed is a hell of a round, my brother has a savage 110 and it shoots bugholes all day (granted only at 100 yards) with tame recoil.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Bushido on September 16, 2017, 07:10:10 PM
You can shoot with any eligible person on Schofield if they sponsor you. I considered applying but got the same reply as you. I do have a friend that shoots there. He said they heavily increased the restrictions recently. I do not know the caliber restrictions. ---- I also heard that KMCAS has a periodic open style shoot. Any info on that?

Recoil management is a big factor in PRS as you are your own spotter. Being able to follow through and spot your impacts is crucial. In Hawaii we don't have the luxury of owning a supressor so we would have to go with a brake. I like a lot of the 6mm catridges and the 6.5X47. Not looking to build one unless access for me changes. Outer island guys are hiking into the hunting areas to shoot/practice long range. I may have to do the same as well to get pratice time. I do have shooting friends and family in WA and AZ that I may go shoot with in the future.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: dustoff003 on September 16, 2017, 07:29:06 PM
Id like a 6.5 Creedmoor. More efficient than a 308. But at this time Im limited to Kokohead. Does Schofield allow?
I'll ask when I go to meeting again. I'd say it depends on which range the Army gives the club and the SDZ of that range, usually it's CR 1 or 2 but occasionally it is one of the KR ranges. Most of the Schofield ranges can handle .50 BMG.


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Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Teichi on September 18, 2017, 04:50:08 PM
There is a change to the match program. AR-15 Rifles may have optics up to 4.5X
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: zippz on September 18, 2017, 08:56:56 PM

Puuloa, I'll be RSO on Saturday.  Might come out to help or shoot on Friday/Sunday if I'm not at work.
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Teichi on September 22, 2017, 07:40:50 PM
Puuloa, I'll be RSO on Saturday.  Might come out to help or shoot on Friday/Sunday if I'm not at work.
Don't forget your OIC/RSO Card
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Teichi on September 25, 2017, 11:29:23 AM
Here are the unofficial results from the past weekend
Title: Re: Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club Regional High Power Rifle Tournament 22-24 Sep 2017
Post by: Bushido on September 25, 2017, 09:07:27 PM
Here are the unofficial results from the past weekend

Congrats to all!